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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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redneck nazgul posted:would you send your strategic air power into a country known for its super ace ghost pilot ace combat rules, ace combat 7 is such a brilliant gem of the game and it’s very few war games that have genuine ‘soul’ into them I went loving bananas and fist pumped super hard when the drone mothership went down SU-34 and SU-57 especially rule Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 06:22 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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Nov 10, 2022 06:19
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Throatwarbler posted:The Chinese are probably also evaluating the cunning Russian tactic of sparing the civilian infrastructure for power, fuel and internet ad the lives of its civilian leaders from attack, out of brotherly love and fear of being thought of as mean spirited, instead of blanketing every paved surface longer than 400 meters with non-stop missile strikes. Whew! Admittedly, China probably would probably try the same thing and go soft. They are already letting the US get an as it is.
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Nov 10, 2022 06:23
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Hatebag posted:My point is that wealth is communal in a communist state. I think china is more accurately described as socialist rather than communist and that the individuals in the ccp are capitalists because they use personally held capital to make money. China is probably the best country in the world but that doesn't mean that words have no meaning Capitalism is a basis of economic production it loses any meaning when you define it by the practices of individuals, it is on a societal basis not a personal one and nobody has the unique ability or authority to change that character, any more so then me walking out in the street declaring the United States to be socialist does gently caress all to change the political economy in the United States does Similarly socialism is just the intermediary period building the conditions for communism. Unless one decides to take the questionable line of argument that a society would like to pursue socialism but with no intent to build towards communism in doing so then it's a useless attempt at splitting hairs to make that distinction you mentioned
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Nov 10, 2022 06:32
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https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1590482103363284993
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Nov 10, 2022 06:43
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russia should just go all in on kyiv
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Nov 10, 2022 06:46
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he has to be doing this on purpose
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Nov 10, 2022 06:47
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Al-Saqr posted:also the brilliant Russian strategem of invading a hostile country that enjoys unlimited nato funding, support and intelligence at a 6:1 manpower disadvantage and using almost none of their strategic air power, those Russians are genius planners! i thought we were past the "they're just holding back" stage of cope
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Nov 10, 2022 06:52
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https://twitter.com/AdsoOfBelk/status/1590349601667960832
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Nov 10, 2022 06:53
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Conspiratiorist posted:i thought we were past the "they're just holding back" stage of cope I didn’t say they were holding back I said they undercommitted big time. also what kind of child are you? nobodies coping about anything.
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Nov 10, 2022 06:54
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Al-Saqr posted:I didn’t say they were holding back I said they undercommitted big time. they aren't using their strategic air power because they can't, not because they're unwilling
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Nov 10, 2022 06:56
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yeah we're past cope and are well into the seethe part now
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Nov 10, 2022 06:57
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Conspiratiorist posted:they aren't using their strategic air power because they can't, not because they're unwilling Great point out where I said it was a matter of willingness or ability? oh wait you can’t because you have zero reading comprehension haha cope seethe cope seethe cope seethe get better at reading get owned and dumpstered. wow this style of talking is great we should do it more often.
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Nov 10, 2022 07:02
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lol yeah the reason why orcs aren't committing their zeppelins and pterodactyls-riders to the conflict is just because they don't feel like it
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Nov 10, 2022 07:03
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Calibanibal posted:lol yeah the reason why orcs aren't committing their zeppelins and pterodactyls-riders to the conflict is just because they don't feel like it pterodactyl riders > F-35
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Nov 10, 2022 07:04
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Al-Saqr posted:Great point out where I said it was a matter of willingness or ability? let me rephrase: they used what they had this is it, they did not have more in reserve
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Nov 10, 2022 07:04
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Conspiratiorist posted:let me rephrase: ok great then just say that instead of the childish “haha cope” option
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Nov 10, 2022 07:06
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Al-Saqr posted:ok great then just say that instead of the childish “haha cope” option gradenko is the one who said "cope", conspiratorialist was pretty polite about it
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Nov 10, 2022 07:14
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Calibanibal posted:gradenko is the one who said "cope", conspiratorialist was pretty polite about it oh god I think uve caught the mod brain disease that fucks up ur reading comprehension
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Nov 10, 2022 07:19
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Al-Saqr posted:ok great then just say that instead of the childish “haha cope” option i'm sorry, i believed you would be perceptive of how the idea of under commitment has been a pro-russian talking point since they first began stalling, with the corollary that things would naturally turn around once their hand was forced but air power is one aspect where the russians have categorically not held anything back - unlike the theoretical shoring up of frontlines with mobiks the VKS has operated under limits of sustainment and manpower that aren't solvable in the short term
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Nov 10, 2022 07:20
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Throatwarbler posted:The Chinese are probably also evaluating the cunning Russian tactic of sparing the civilian infrastructure for power, fuel and internet ad the lives of its civilian leaders from attack, out of brotherly love and fear of being thought of as mean spirited, instead of blanketing every paved surface longer than 400 meters with non-stop missile strikes. Whew! Lauding the Russians for their beneficent mercy opposite the cruel barbarism of the West doesn’t really work when the Russians started blowing up all those things the moment Ukraine had the audacity to resist. Waiting till the past couple months to start doing that had more to do with Russia trying to invade on a budget than any kind of humanitarian concern.
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Nov 10, 2022 07:28
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If you want cope, look no further than Russian state-affiliated media. https://tass.com/politics/1534437 Russian defense chief orders troop withdrawal behind Dnieper 10 NOV, 00:14 INTEGRATED RUSSIAN TROOP COMMAND POST, November 9. /TASS/. Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has ordered to start pulling out troops behind the Dnieper River. "Start withdrawing the troops and take all measures to ensure the safe relocation of the personnel, armaments and hardware behind the Dnieper," the defense chief said, setting the task for Commander of Russia’s Integrated Group of Forces in Ukraine Sergey Surovikin. Surovikin reported to the defense minister earlier on Wednesday on the situation in that area. Defense along the Dnieper barrier frontier is the most expedient option of operations in the zone of the special military operation, Surovikin said. "If the Kiev regime resorts to a larger water discharge from reservoirs or a more powerful rocket attack on the Kakhovka dam, this will create a flow of water flooding vast areas and causing civilian casualties. A further threat for civilians and of a complete isolation of our group of forces on the right bank of the Dnieper will emerge. Under these conditions, it is expedient to organize the defense along the barrier frontier of the Dnieper River," the commander said. "Comrade defense minister, after comprehensively assessing the current situation, the proposal is to assume defense along the left bank of the Dnieper River," Surovikin pointed out. "I understand that this is a very uneasy decision. At the same time, we will preserve, which is the most important thing, the lives of our servicemen and, as a whole, the combat capability of the group of forces, which is inexpedient to be kept in a limited area on the right bank. In addition, this will release a part of forces and capabilities that will be involved in active operations, including for offensives in other directions in the zone of the operation," the general reported. Prior to that, the Russian defense chief requested Surovikin to report on the situation in the Kherson area. After listening to the report, the defense minister agreed with the commander’s conclusions and proposals. "For us the life and health of Russian servicemen is always a priority. We must also take into account the threat for the civilian population," the defense chief emphasized.
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Nov 10, 2022 07:32
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The Russian state, well-known for being solicitous of the well-being of its rank and file troopers.
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Nov 10, 2022 07:33
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Conspiratiorist posted:i'm sorry, i believed you would be perceptive of how the idea of under commitment has been a pro-russian talking point since they first began stalling, with the corollary that things would naturally turn around once their hand was forced you know what sorry I overreacted I get it now. it's all good and I agree. I thought you were accusing me of 'coping and seething' and got (ironically) mad. I agree the self-delusion the russian media and their supporters online is pretty crazy that they refuse to acknowledge putin sucks and is an idiot.
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Nov 10, 2022 07:34
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Southpaugh posted:I really took "de-nazification" as a euphemism for regime change. yeah they just remixed De-Ba'athification lol
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Nov 10, 2022 07:34
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Copemkin nation
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Nov 10, 2022 07:35
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Calibanibal posted:China isn't capitalist because it doesnt make me feel sad
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Nov 10, 2022 07:36
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As far as bombing goes...obviously they were holding back because the attacks on the electrical infrastructure were relatively recent. I think Iranian drones helped keep costs down but I don't think it isn't something the Russians couldn't have done early in the war at least. It is pretty obvious the Russians should (it a strategic sense) have been hitting it from the get go but that the Kremlin is in its own world.
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Nov 10, 2022 07:39
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lmfao
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Nov 10, 2022 07:40
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Conspiratiorist posted:air power is one aspect where the russians have categorically not held anything back galagazombie posted:Lauding the Russians for their beneficent mercy opposite the cruel barbarism of the West doesn’t really work when the Russians started blowing up all those things the moment Ukraine had the audacity to resist. Waiting till the past couple months to start doing that had more to do with Russia trying to invade on a budget than any kind of humanitarian concern. 
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Nov 10, 2022 07:45
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god drat biden is still living with Beau in Iraq in his sun downing head 
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Nov 10, 2022 07:47
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I for one am shocked that Russia's strategy of occupying a chunk of Ukraine on a shoestring budget, then sitting back and waiting for the enemy to come to the negotiating table hasn't worked.
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Nov 10, 2022 07:52
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When was the last conflict where someone did something like this? America typically goes whole hog in their invasions, when was the last conflict that the bigger side settled for a tiny slice then hoped for a better peace terms? Georgia?
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Nov 10, 2022 07:56
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Crymetimeboys posted:The Russian state, well-known for being solicitous of the well-being of its rank and file troopers. I mean they rolled over and dismantled socialism for borgir+coke.
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Nov 10, 2022 08:29
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Al-Saqr posted:When was the last conflict where someone did something like this? America typically goes whole hog in their invasions, when was the last conflict that the bigger side settled for a tiny slice then hoped for a better peace terms? Georgia? Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia have been independent since the early nineties and have held most of their current territory for that time, so I don't think it's really the same sort of thing.
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Nov 10, 2022 09:04
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galagazombie posted:Lauding the Russians for their beneficent mercy opposite the cruel barbarism of the West doesn’t really work when the Russians started blowing up all those things the moment Ukraine had the audacity to resist. Waiting till the past couple months to start doing that had more to do with Russia trying to invade on a budget than any kind of humanitarian concern. They're right next door, I don't think it was a budget issue since all this stuff is being pulled from storage. they had some really weird lines from day 1. but I dunno, they stalled out like a way long time ago, lost wacky amounts of equipment. a cruiser lol. maybe they waited for maximal pain for winter since the power system is a hodgepodge of soviet/modern crap? its weird no matter what way you look at it.
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Nov 10, 2022 09:06
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the iranian drones i guess are newish i guess. still a real weird situation tho
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Nov 10, 2022 09:10
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Lostconfused posted:What this shows is that if anyone invades Taiwan they should do it in one go instead of giving them 8 years to fix up all the failures in their army and ability to mobilize the population. Yeah I listen to a politic podcast by a couple unnamed Chinese officials from the intelligence branch and foreign service branch . They have said a few times one lesson the Chinese all agreed on is that there is no scenario of invading the outer islands. The only proper way is start a full scaled war on the main taiwan island.
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Nov 10, 2022 09:51
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Pretty sure it's a lot easier to cut off Taiwan from America than Ukraine from the rest of Europe. I don't think Taiwan is getting a continuous stream of weapons in a conflict.
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Nov 10, 2022 10:03
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Ardennes posted:As far as bombing goes...obviously they were holding back because the attacks on the electrical infrastructure were relatively recent. I think Iranian drones helped keep costs down but I don't think it isn't something the Russians couldn't have done early in the war at least. There was a prestige thing Putin was holding onto. Russia is top 2 weapon suppliers of the world. Using Iranian cheap weapons would damage Russia's future contract of selling big clients (India) high end fighters and helicopters. It's like BMW and Honda selling rebranded $2000 Chinese electric motorcycles. There was a line the Russians crossed around summer when they no longer care about prestige and face and code.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Yeah I listen to a politic podcast by a couple unnamed Chinese officials from the intelligence branch and foreign service branch . They have said a few times one lesson the Chinese all agreed on is that there is no scenario of invading the outer islands. The only proper way is start a full scaled war on the main taiwan island. Why though? Just blockade it.
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