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Orvin posted:Although, I suppose it could be tofu, but somehow I don’t know if that would be better. I can’t envision what that would actually be like, so my mind just defaults to boba beer Bring back Orbitz as an alcoholic energy drink you cowards. 
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Blue Moonlight posted:Bring back Orbitz as an alcoholic energy drink you cowards. Orbitz was the least refreshing drink ever, only slightly above cookie dough.
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Nov 9, 2022 18:22
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Tarkus posted:Orbitz was the least refreshing drink ever, only slightly above cookie dough. I remember it being sickly sweet. Like drinking syrup. It also wasn't carbonated. And if I thought that something was too sweet in middle school holy gently caress that must have been pure loving sucrose. I had a discerning palate back then. My drink of choice was Surge 
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Tarkus posted:Orbitz was the least refreshing drink ever, only slightly above cookie dough. 
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Nov 9, 2022 18:28
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Cookie dough milkshake that you can stand up a spoon in.
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Nov 9, 2022 18:32
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Breetai posted:Boss says she's going to assign me a task at 9:30. What. Your boss does not understand agile, like, at all.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I remember it being sickly sweet. Like drinking syrup. It also wasn't carbonated. Fuckin same I did keep one in a shelf for years though, cause they look cool as poo poo
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Nov 9, 2022 18:57
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yeah i mean agile is definitely the worst but whatever that is isnt agile
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I don't do agile poo poo but from talking to people who do (or allegedly do) I've developed two basic catagories: 1) people who use it in a dev process who can at lest make the noises convincingly enough for me to assume they know what they're talking about. There's enough structure and order to the words coming out of their face that I imagine that to another person in their world it makes coherent sense. 2) people who are cargo-culting it as a new set of MBA buzzwords to impress their fellow MBA buzzword afficionados as they peacock at each other. Even standing as far as I am on the outside, you can just smell the bullshit and feel the hot air coming off like a blast furnace.
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Nov 9, 2022 19:03
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Neco posted:What. Your boss does not understand agile, like, at all.  boar guy posted:yeah i mean agile is definitely the worst but whatever that is isnt agile 
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Nov 9, 2022 19:29
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Most places are.just doing a crappier version of waterfall and claiming it's agile because they make reactionary decisions constantly.
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withoutclass posted:Most places are.just doing a crappier version of waterfall and claiming it's agile because they make reactionary decisions constantly. But if you use Agile terms you get to call it SAFe.
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Escape From Noise posted:Woah. Are you not a real patriot? One fermented cow beverage please, hold the vegetables!
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goatface posted:Cookie dough milkshake that you can stand up a spoon in. So, Southern Tier Creme Brulee Stout. 
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Nov 9, 2022 20:39
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As for the drinking on the job thing, it's something I'm extremely cautious about because of how much alcohol abuse there is in the brewing industry. One of the most accomplished guys to work at Goose Island (who is now winning tons of awards at his brewery) got pushed out when Brett Porter came on, and he started drinking pints of Matilda (the 7% Belgian ale) when he got in at 7AM. Somebody at Lagunitas crashed a forklift and fell asleep on the toilet during his shift because he was abusing both booze and pills on the job. If you're a computer toucher do whatever doesn't get other people hurt, but if you're gonna touch machinery or chemicals stay the gently caress away from it on shift.
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Motronic posted:But if you use Agile terms you get to call it SAFe. SAFe would at least be better than what we have now where we suddenly realize we need other teams to do things but they have no capacity because it wasn't planned lol
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RocketMermaid posted:if you're gonna touch machinery or chemicals stay the gently caress away from it on shift.
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Neco posted:What. Your boss does not understand agile, like, at all. I don't understand Agile at all, because I've never previously worked using it like ever, but I figured out that whatever my boss is doing isn't Agile through general observation and common sense despite her unwavering cultlike devotion to saying Agile. Agile. Like, I'm fairly sure that "WE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT WE'RE DOING EVEN IF SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP OUR PROCESSES/IS A QUICK WIN COMES UP" isn't Agile. It seems more rigid than agile. Unfortunately what my lack of any experience/knowledge regarding Agile means is that I lack the ability to point out, in words of one syllable and with an almost academic rigor, exactly where and why what my boss is doing isn't specifically Agile according to its tenets, which is pretty much what it would take for her to
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RocketMermaid posted:As for the drinking on the job thing, it's something I'm extremely cautious about because of how much alcohol abuse there is in the brewing industry. One of the most accomplished guys to work at Goose Island (who is now winning tons of awards at his brewery) got pushed out when Brett Porter came on, and he started drinking pints of Matilda (the 7% Belgian ale) when he got in at 7AM. Somebody at Lagunitas crashed a forklift and fell asleep on the toilet during his shift because he was abusing both booze and pills on the job. If you're a computer toucher do whatever doesn't get other people hurt, but if you're gonna touch machinery or chemicals stay the gently caress away from it on shift. Maybe you don’t understand, i need at least 3 long island iced teas to lube up my brane to be able to properly work with hydrochloric acid
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Salami Surgeon posted:Boss has decided the best method is to now buy new parts, break them, and test again. I guess this has been going pretty well because my boss is now asking me to get involved to "accelerate the testing". The vendor for the part we're testing has also graciously given us some test equipment to use for this. But it doesn't give us any data. We have to send it back to them and they'll interpret the results for us. Hmm, I wonder what results we could possibly see. No word yet on the test equipment I asked for.
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RocketMermaid posted:if you're gonna touch machinery or chemicals stay the gently caress away from it on shift. Every forklift operator on the planet has some concerns about this bold new policy. Weed, speed or mead, no one drives straight
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RocketMermaid posted:As for the drinking on the job thing, it's something I'm extremely cautious about because of how much alcohol abuse there is in the brewing industry. One of the most accomplished guys to work at Goose Island (who is now winning tons of awards at his brewery) got pushed out when Brett Porter came on, and he started drinking pints of Matilda (the 7% Belgian ale) when he got in at 7AM. Somebody at Lagunitas crashed a forklift and fell asleep on the toilet during his shift because he was abusing both booze and pills on the job. If you're a computer toucher do whatever doesn't get other people hurt, but if you're gonna touch machinery or chemicals stay the gently caress away from it on shift.
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I’ve learned a lot about the brewing industry just from lurking this thread. I didn’t know Japan had much of a craft brewing scene, all I’m familiar with are macro brews like Asahi, Kirin, Sapporo, etc.
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As a guy who had to slum it in Scotland with just Carling, Carlsberg, Strongbow and Stella on tap in most places back in the mid 2000s I think even most macro brews are pretty decent these days?  certainly compared to that swill
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Sapozhnik posted:As a guy who had to slum it in Scotland with just Carling, Carlsberg, Strongbow and Stella on tap in most places back in the mid 2000s I think even most macro brews are pretty decent these days? I'm deeply suspicious of the pubs where you were drinking in Scotland in the mid 2000s that had Carling instead of Tennants, Scotlands most popular lovely beer flavoured chemical*. And you're being overly harsh, even the lovely chain pub where I did most of my drinking in the early 2000s had Deuchers on tap, and gently caress, even the student union had a better selection than that. Couldnt pour an acceptable pint of guinness if you put a gun to their heads, but they'd give it their best shot. Essentially I think you needed to find a better pub. *The drygate branded stuff is by and large decent, thats all Tennants as well, but thats a recent development and from what I hear its a deliberate effort to make something decent and craft-adjacent to a) cash in on the craft beer market as the cheap lager market starts to flag, and b) persuade some of their brewers to stick around by letting them flex their creative muscles a bit in a corporate approved kind of way.
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Cthulu Carl posted:Just say you'll make your normal beer, but once it's ready, you can get a bunch of dudes together to add the protein. Then just wink. Float a crystal in every bottle. Or, I guess since the crystal would probably leach into the beer and kill people or something, attach the JO crystal to the outside for Edit:I just realized it’s probably bottles, not cans…but I know nothing about alcohol production, so I may also be wrong on if you use bottles or cans. just clap hands Bored fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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RocketMermaid posted:As for the drinking on the job thing, it's something I'm extremely cautious about because of how much alcohol abuse there is in the brewing industry. One of the most accomplished guys to work at Goose Island (who is now winning tons of awards at his brewery) got pushed out when Brett Porter came on, and he started drinking pints of Matilda (the 7% Belgian ale) when he got in at 7AM. Somebody at Lagunitas crashed a forklift and fell asleep on the toilet during his shift because he was abusing both booze and pills on the job. If you're a computer toucher do whatever doesn't get other people hurt, but if you're gonna touch machinery or chemicals stay the gently caress away from it on shift. Yeah..I generally pull samples near the end of the day and only take a few sips.
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Lol. The restaurant manager lost a keg sale because he didn't respond to an email with an order for three days. I don't think he even looked at it. Guy ordering is a friend even.
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Bargearse posted:I’ve learned a lot about the brewing industry just from lurking this thread. It's been taking off more and more. Especially in recent years.
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[owner #1 on Slack, 3 weeks ago] We have a fest coming up in 3 weeks, just so you guys are aware and can put beer together. [Me and other brewer] Okay, we need somebody to bring in the jockey box so we can clean and prep it. [Me at the beginning of this week] Still need the jockey box. [Me today, two days away from the fest] Can somebody bring in the jockey box today or tomorrow so I can clean and prep it? [owner #2's wife] You'll have to get it yourself, I'm busy today and tomorrow [Me] I will if I have to, but I'm very busy with barrel projects this week while the other brewer is out of town. Can we be better about communicating about this? [owner #1] I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT Jesus loving tits, guys, can the brewers not be the only adults in the room about getting poo poo done?
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That's a roles and responsibilities issue. Having more than one person being responsible for managing something always ends up in that bullshit. But trying to get people to acknowledge they're responsible for poo poo is impossible.
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RocketMermaid posted:[owner #1 on Slack, 3 weeks ago] We have a fest coming up in 3 weeks, just so you guys are aware and can put beer together. Nope. Only the people that do the work that any company is based on are expected to be capable of using logic and patience (the patience is for working around all of the non-adult adults that are bafflingly put in charge so that a company can deliver its goods and services effectively). Everybody else is just there to make sure you don’t take home enough money to lower your stress level enough for you to realize that you deserve to work with considerate people. This is the natural order of things. Bored fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Nov 10, 2022 |
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RocketMermaid posted:[owner #1 on Slack, 3 weeks ago] We have a fest coming up in 3 weeks, just so you guys are aware and can put beer together. Tut, tut. Sounds like quiet quitting to me. If y'all would only apply yourselves a bit more, this wouldn't have happened. Anyways, we're off to Gstad for the rest of this month. If you could just write each other up, that would be wonderful!
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They released the comments from the employee survey to management. 246 extra typed in comments (everything else on the survey was scale of 1-10) 244 comments about the excessive overtime 2 comments complaining about favoritism You’ll never guess what we’ve decided to focus on going forward.
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RocketMermaid posted:[owner #1 on Slack, 3 weeks ago] We have a fest coming up in 3 weeks, just so you guys are aware and can put beer together. The flashbacks...THE FLASHBACKS!
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They aren't going to widely release the full text comments of our staff survey this year, apparently it was too easy to identify individuals in the redacted comments last year. Only the board and union reps get to see them. Have they addressed the root causes that led to multiple people feeling the need to write complaints about specific managers and teams? Well, they haven't announced anything...
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Outrail posted:That's a roles and responsibilities issue. Having more than one person being responsible for managing something always ends up in that bullshit. But trying to get people to acknowledge they're responsible for poo poo is impossible. In particular, Owner #1 is fond of spending half an hour searching through Slack to show why you're in the wrong instead of just saying "OK" and working with anybody else. He also got highly offended when the bartenders knew how to do something in Square that he didn't.
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interview went well, have an in person follow up next friday. might actually get off this rapidly sinking ship. gonna try real hard to not just bail immediately if i get it and give them some sort of notice. a mental break for a week would be nice though
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Outrail posted:That's a roles and responsibilities issue. Having more than one person being responsible for managing something always ends up in that bullshit. But trying to get people to acknowledge they're responsible for poo poo is impossible. Yeah. If it's a big job, have a lead and an assistant. But you need to have someone who can demand stuff be done, and also be blamed if that stuff is wrong.
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