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15 | 3.71% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Al-Saqr posted:the Russians don’t just need to field 500,000 they just need to remove putin or stop him from making any decisions, he’s the #1 reason Russia lost their dumb war. if the next person in charge will be more of a nationalist and willing to sacrifice something for victory, perhaps
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Lostconfused posted:I guess that gives more context for my grandmother claiming that Hungarians were the most vicious ones lol. I knew it.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:15
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speng31b posted:if the next person in charge will be more of a nationalist and willing to sacrifice something for victory, perhaps The problem with nationalism in Russia at this point is that honestly everyone prefers a comfortable material life and trips to Thailand than blood and soil. They obviously exist but the dudes on Twitter are (clearly) oddities. Also, the capitalist class in Russia is still sitting fat and happy even if this war is lost.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:16
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Endman posted:oh hey new thread, has Al Saqr won the war yet? Zelensky and NATO got revenge against Putin, so Al-Saqr is pretty happy.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:16
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Ardennes posted:The problem with nationalism in Russia at this point is that honestly everyone prefers a comfortable material life and trips to Thailand than blood and soil. They obviously exist but the dudes on Twitter are (clearly) oddities. yeah, more like the US than ever
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Nov 11, 2022 19:16
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RWA aren't even the 4chan blood and soil nationalists.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:17
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Lostconfused posted:RWA aren't even the 4chan blood and soil nationalists. RWA is nationalist in the sense that they absolutely have a hard on for seeing their military get some Ws, but for extremely weird and esoteric reasons that don't align with mainstream russian nationalism e: I also expect they're walking a very fine line with their takes, because almost every other source with similar viewpoints has been banned from Twitter speng31b has issued a correction as of 19:24 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Nov 11, 2022 19:19
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speng31b posted:yeah, more like the US than ever Felix Biederman's "normal whites" theory holds true even in Russia!
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Nov 11, 2022 19:20
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speng31b posted:RWA is nationalist in the sense that they absolutely have a hard on for seeing their military get some Ws, but for extremely weird and esoteric reasons that don't align with mainstream russian nationalism Yeah they're monarchist
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Nov 11, 2022 19:23
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HiroProtagonist posted:Trust me the baying for orc blood is fading but still omnipresent everywhere the red paint blood is still all over the 91st street russian consulate
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Nov 11, 2022 19:24
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:Yeah they're monarchist 🍆👑💦
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Nov 11, 2022 19:24
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Raskolnikov38 posted:400-500k is probably what russia needs to hold the line at this point It's what they'll have in late December/early January.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:28
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Lostconfused posted:I guess that gives more context for my grandmother claiming that Hungarians were the most vicious ones lol. HUNS, it's right there!
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Nov 11, 2022 19:30
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-status-kherson-part-russia-unchanged-2022-11-11/quote:Kremlin says Kherson's status as 'part of Russia' unchanged despite retreat War is still going to go on in 2023 and last through 2024.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:34
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can't believe russia would let the capital of one of its oblasts fall to an enemy nation
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Nov 11, 2022 19:40
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Danann posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-status-kherson-part-russia-unchanged-2022-11-11/ No point in stopping before the elections.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:52
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Intel Slava Z posted:
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Satellite photos of Antonovsky and Darevsky bridges. Russians demoed multiple parts of the former and sunk the latter.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:54
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IMO the Tsar or Soviets are preferable to liberalism when it comes to fighting a war. Nobody is dying for trips to Thailand and blue jeans, for the simple reason that if you're dead you can't enjoy them. Are you going to fight for other people to travel to Thailand when you're dead? It's a dead end ideologically when it comes to inspiring, or demanding, sacrifice. Sacrifice is necessary in conventional war, as opposed to a low-grade occupational hazard, as we've become accustomed to. I mean, this isn't limited to Russia obviously, but alienated and material societies have definite horizons here, and it's interesting to see them push up against the ruling class conceding anything, the state believing in anything, the people demanding anything. If the Russian people are so dialled out of politics that they're willing to shrug it off, and the ruling class so concerned with normalcy they're willing to either take a deal or be rolled back to the 2021 borders, it's consigning the people inside Ukraine to God knows what, but it would at least stop the fighting. Short sighted and cost aware was a really good observation. I don't understand the thought process that says the SMO is legally binding but by the same standards these areas, people, cities are now Russian. By their own standards, and correct me if I'm wrong, the SMO is over, this should be war. Yet, that's a can that will be kicked down the road and explained away. loving Yeltsin showed more resolve in 1991 and 1993 to impose liberalism than any of his successors are here.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:57
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speng31b posted:RWA is nationalist in the sense that they absolutely have a hard on for seeing their military get some Ws, but for extremely weird and esoteric reasons that don't align with mainstream russian nationalism Both dudes that run that podcast aren't even living in Russia. Lol
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Nov 11, 2022 19:57
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https://twitter.com/hugoturner1969/status/1589002243327811584?cxt=HHwWgIDTzeLHoo0sAAAA Anyways here is another recap of the OUN movement.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:58
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Both dudes that run that podcast aren't even living in Russia. Lol lmao
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Nov 11, 2022 19:58
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The Ian Miles Cheong and Aimee Therese of Russia twitter
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Nov 11, 2022 20:02
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Some of the best RWA content is when they say something bad about another country and get attacked by the ultras.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:05
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Danann posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-status-kherson-part-russia-unchanged-2022-11-11/ So did Russia decide what the extent of their claimed borders was then? After the referendums, it was unclear whether they were claiming the entire Oblasts or the state of the border at the time of annexation.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:09
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“Russia keeps on functioning economically, nearly, as there is no war. Is say, nearly. It keeps on integrating itself in the new emerging world order. Not only integrating but building as a main actor. Had Russia chosen a full declaration of war and doctrinal warfare, it would need to stop most of its international trade relations and switch to wartime economy, to sustain a totally different dimension of logistics and troop accumulation, training and preparing of new and reserve formations in the rear.” “That’s why I assume, that, even after the partial mobilization, the war will be conducted as a SMO, unless the General Staff comes up with an assessment, that the political objectives can’t be achieved any longer in the format of a SMO. And this should be avoided by any means. If Russia transform its economy to sustain a highly mobile and supplied, doctrinal Russian army, then I’m not sure what geopolitical implications this could bring. At least some mobilizations waves throughout Europe as well. This should NOT happen for many reasons.” “For the time being, Russia will further on need to deal with scarce resources. Even though there is a political committee established, to support the war efforts, it is not the same as in WW2. It has very tight restrictions, to shield off the economy as much as affordable. The highest scarcity in resources is in the troops. The Generals can’t simply order large scale operations, where you need necessarily to calculate with a huge percentage of losses. For example, if you want to storm quickly a highly protected city with a 3:1 advantage (this is totally made up, since there are so many factors not considered) you can calculate with a casualty rate of 30%. This is impossible in the format of the SMO.” blurring the distinction between war and peace and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:09
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Anime-Romanovism is an ideology equal of any other.
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smart to allow ukriane to save some face here to make the reaching final peace settlement easier
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Nov 11, 2022 20:10
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straight from Art of War
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Danann posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-status-kherson-part-russia-unchanged-2022-11-11/ millions dead it is then a sign of things to come
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euphronius posted:smart to allow ukriane to save some face here to make the reaching final peace settlement easier 
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Not So Fast posted:So did Russia decide what the extent of their claimed borders was then? After the referendums, it was unclear whether they were claiming the entire Oblasts or the state of the border at the time of annexation. Administrative borders iirc.
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I want to take a moment to address this article because I think it would be easy for lurkers (or even thread regulars) to get the wrong idea about A, what it's about, and B, why it's allowed to be posted ITT. The title of the piece is kind of misleading; if one only read the title and didn't read the body of the article, one might come away with the impression that it's saying, "Russian troops have not raped people in Ukraine." That would obviously be an outlandish claim; the Russian army is an occupying force in Ukraine, and unfortunately, members of pretty much every occupying military force in history have committed atrocities including rape. However, that's not what the article is claiming. Rather, it says that UN special representative Pramila Patten, during this prank call, admitted she lacked evidence for her assertion last month that Russia is using rape as a part of its military strategy. e: That includes her oft-repeated claim that Russian troops were issued Viagra to carry out these systematic rapes, which she now claims to not know anything about in the prank call. RT is of course a propaganda source, but the video in question does seem to be legit (it's a video call, so unless they deepfaked her, it's definitely her), and she does say what the article claims she says. The article links to a Russian-dubbed version of the video on Rutube (yes, that's a thing, and yes, it's lame), but the undubbed in-English video can be seen here on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzBFOhvg14o Given this admission, it seems to me that Patten was editorializing when she claimed that rape was part of Russia's "military strategy." As we can see in the Forbes article, the Western press adopted that claim uncritically and ran with it. But as we can see in the video, Patten does not seem to be able to substantiate that claim. She is correct that her office did not conduct any investigations because it is not their job to conduct investigations. But that being the case, it was at the very least extremely irresponsible of her to claim that rape is part of Russia's military strategy, or to assert that her office had "verified" anything beyond collecting reports of rapes from survivors. It was likewise extremely irresponsible of the media to repeat these claims without doing their due diligence. To be 100% clear, I have no doubt that her office received more than a hundred reports of rapes committed by the Russian army, nor do I have any doubt that those reports are legitimate. I hope it goes without saying that this thread will not welcome any questioning of the legitimacy of those reports. However, while this thread does not welcome the denial of war crimes without compelling evidence that some or all of the story is not credible, it's a different story when there is such evidence. Now, that said, this is obviously a really sensitive subject. So if people ITT are going to post about it, they need to be specific about what they're trying to claim with articles like the one from RT. This isn't DnD, and I'm not asking people to make effortposts, nor am I saying that people here aren't allowed to just quote articles or post tweets without their own commentary on it. I'm saying that when it comes to emotionally-charged subjects like war crimes and crimes against humanity, you need to be specific about what you're claiming. I don't want people to think posters here are denying war crimes when that's not actually what they're doing. Majorian has issued a correction as of 20:26 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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I never thought I’d live to see the day that Russia of all countries would had a manpower shortage situation, I understand why politically they can’t but wow that’s like their #1 advantage, quantity of stuff and men, thrown out the window because of the wierd neoliberal regime they have.
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Ardennes posted:Anime-Romanovism is an ideology equal of any other.
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so are we winning this war
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euphronius posted:straight from Art of War I’ve had at least ten angry Russians quote the Art of War at me in 72 hrs. At least it’s keeping me busy at work because the role of gun artillery not to facilitate combat operations but to apply pressure in a half baked diplomatic scheme is something that’s understudied and off the top of my head hadn’t happened outside of maybe H&I fires in Vietnam, and Zanzibari raids on East Africa where they thought the act of firing the cannon alone would be enough to scare tribal peoples away and as often as not fired blanks. So, there’s one paper idea that will let me put my name on something topical.
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Majorian posted:However, that's not what the article is claiming. Rather, it says that UN special representative Pramila Patten, during this prank call, admitted she lacked evidence for her assertion last month that Russia is using rape as a part of its military strategy. RT is of course a propaganda source, but the video in question does seem to be legit (it's a video call, so unless they deepfaked her, it's definitely her), and she does say what the article claims she says. The article links to a Russian-dubbed version of the video on Rutube (yes, that's a thing, and yes, it's lame), but the undubbed in-English video can be seen here on youtube: she said that russians are distributing viagra talking point and then admitted it was a lie.
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Frosted Flake posted:I’ve had at least ten angry Russians quote the Art of War at me in 72 hrs. *Gorka voice* Did somebody says "ART WAR," Mister Chapo?!?! speng31b posted:she said that russians are distributing viagra talking point and then admitted it was a lie. Yup, that is part of the "Russia is using rape as part of their military strategy" claim.
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euphronius posted:straight from Art of War check this out 
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Majorian posted:Yup, that is part of the "Russia is using rape as part of their military strategy" claim. yeah, but it's worth pointing that claim out specifically because it's been repeated over and over as literally true on twitter (and on these forums).
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