Elon Musk: He only experiences Dunning-Krugerrand

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Sydney Bottocks: Oct 15, 2004

Bad Purchase posted:

game of thrones season $8

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:35

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# ? May 30, 2024 03:28

Omobono: Feb 19, 2013; That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Dumb question, Flintheart Glomgold is supposed to be a Boer too, right?

Because holy poo poo at Elon being dumber and more evil than the Disney villain specifically designed as being extremely cruel and far less intelligent than what he believes himself to be. At least Glomgold's disasters come from trying to outmaneuver Scrooge.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:37

zedprime: Jun 9, 2007; yospos

Hollismason posted:

Any estimates on exactly how much money was lost by the tweet that crashed the insulin company?

Empirically speaking not enough, gently caress em.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:39

Vire: Nov 4, 2005; Like a Bosh

Hollismason posted:

Any estimates on exactly how much money was lost by the tweet that crashed the insulin company?

20 billion in market cap. Loses like these though are typically pretty temporary unless this starts like a new public awareness campaign against pharmaceuticals and people actually start giving a poo poo.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:41

MiracleFlare: Mar 27, 2012

They deserve nothing less than to have people ask them nothing but "why don't you want to make life-saving medications free?" for the rest of their lives, but unfortunately that would have no effect on them because they'd need compassion to be even slightly uncomfortable.

That being said it'll be hilarious if this turns the billionaires against each other

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:43

Deptfordx: Dec 23, 2013

drat, the language, the posturing, the narcissism. He's literally going Full Trump.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:44

Tagaziel: Aug 28, 2022; Ce n'est pas un chat.

Hollismason posted:

Any estimates on exactly how much money was lost by the tweet that crashed the insulin company?

Holy poo poo what

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:45

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:45

Heike: Dec 26, 2013

drat, it's like he learned NOTHING from the jeremy renner app...

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:46

Fifteen of Many: Feb 23, 2006

I wonder if you could argue willful damage since Twitter previously implemented the verification system in response to defamation concerns. This seems a hell of a lot for quantifiable, and Twitter would know it was a risk without their verification system and did it anyway.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:48

BIG FLUFFY DOG: Feb 16, 2011; On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

Omobono posted:

Dumb question, Flintheart Glomgold is supposed to be a Boer too, right?

Because holy poo poo at Elon being dumber and more evil than the Disney villain specifically designed as being extremely cruel and far less intelligent than what he believes himself to be. At least Glomgold's disasters come from trying to outmaneuver Scrooge.

originally. but then they retconned him as another scot when the anti-apartheid movement started picking up steam and then re-retconned him as a boer pretending to be a scot due to his obsession with scrooge

BIG FLUFFY DOG fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Nov 11, 2022

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:48

Libra: Jan 5, 2011

Deptfordx posted:

drat, the language, the posturing, the narcissism. He's literally going Full Trump.

Trump had this ridiculous, genuine confidence that bled through into his posts. Everything Elon posts just reeks of nervous desperation.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:49

nullEntityRNG: Jun 23, 2010; Mostly pseudo-random.

SirPhoebos posted:

Not an expert, but I think this would be actionable in civil court.

Even if it isn't, it's generally a bad idea to antagonize all the pharmacorps for no reason.

There is precedent I believe. Wasn't there a court case where a guy made fun of a police station by making a fake facebook page and was swatted and jailed for it because like one person called the actual station confused?

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:53

Pastel Candy Snake: Sep 6, 2018; by Hand Knit

nullEntityRNG posted:

There is precedent I believe. Wasn't there a court case where a guy made fun of a police station by making a fake facebook page and was swatted and jailed for it because like one person called the actual station confused?

Yes and he was fully acquitted.

The Onion did a REALLY amazing amicus brief on him: https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/10/04/onion-amicus-brief-supreme-court-anthony-novak/

# ? Nov 11, 2022 20:57

mdxi: Mar 13, 2006; to JERK OFF is to be close to GOD... only with SPURTING

Elon's ad revenue changes are really having an impact!

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/11/23453575/omnicom-media-group-twitter-advertising-pause

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:01

davecrazy: Nov 25, 2004; I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

This the tiny pebble that proceeds the avalanche?

https://twitter.com/playbill/status/1591136415714541568?s=20&t=bMPpURvC-CZG-iZVvZAf9g

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:03

Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

davecrazy posted:

This the tiny pebble that proceeds the avalanche?

https://twitter.com/playbill/status/1591136415714541568?s=20&t=bMPpURvC-CZG-iZVvZAf9g

As Playbill goes, so goes the world.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:04

kw0134: Apr 19, 2003; I buy feet pics🍆

Fifteen of Many posted:

I wonder if you could argue willful damage since Twitter previously implemented the verification system in response to defamation concerns. This seems a hell of a lot for quantifiable, and Twitter would know it was a risk without their verification system and did it anyway.

We are legitimately in uncharted legal territory. Defamation might be in the cards for whoever created the account and tweeted out "we're assholes who shouldn't be charging for insulin," particularly since they used a handle that made it look official. Damages would be limited to the PR cleanup though, since stock prices recovered. But it's still a real harm.

But what about Twitter? We can get real deep in the weeds and can go into a bunch of statutory and common law implications, but I'm not sure this thread is ready for a legalese filled effort post. Suffice it to say there are problems for Twitter that could create precedent for years no matter who wins.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:05

thehandtruck: Mar 5, 2006; Can't post for 14 hours!

Data Graham posted:

So I got into a discussion/argument with my boss last night who is a cryptobro and apparent Musk superfan, and he seems to think the Blue checkmark strategy is genius and its only flaw is that he should have kept the price $20 and just made it arbitrarily higher if anyone tried to abuse it.

It took me a while to grasp what his theory was, but it centers around the idea being that Elon's #1 priority is getting rid of bots. And to do that he is willing to basically make Twitter a pay-to-play system like SA, really. He says that by forcing people to spend $8, all those bot accounts like EagleDad1826013242 will no longer be financially viable and all the brand impersonators will eventually get tired of paying :8bux: and stop. Meanwhile Elon said in the meeting yesterday that his ultimate goal is to have ONLY verified-checkmark people show up in your feed.

So in other words he wants the only non-verified people on Twitter to be bots, and that way he can eliminate them all.

My reaction (which I'm putting here instead of telling him because, well, employment) is that hmmmyes, perhaps this will combat free unlimited generation of impersonation accounts, and perhaps all the fake Elons and fake Lockheed Martins and fake George W. Bushes will get tired of getting banned and reregistering and stop. But there's still no incentive for regular bot accounts to not be created, by Russian troll farms or whatever, if that's what his goal is. Those are the ones who exist just to inflate the follower count of people like Trump and to endlessly parrot and retweet and broadcast their lovely views all over the place and to brigade people making important points. It's like the main thing Elon is incensed by is the idea of "ratios" or something, like he thinks that's the real problem with Twitter and not just a funny symptom of what happens when Ted Cruz or Ben Shapiro says something stupid.

And my whole point was that by making the blue Verified checkmark about "this user is verified NOT TO B E A BOT" rather than "this user is verified TO BE WHO THEIR NAME CLAIMS THEY ARE" is that this debacle has shown advertisers that Twitter is not a brand-safe platform to be on, and they're going to just keep their money out of it. Without advertiser money Twitter will be dead in a month. And there is no shoring that up with $8 subscription fees, because as was noted on day 1 the math just doesn't add up, by many orders of magnitude.

Anyway that's what I went to bed with and woke up with and now we get to see whether Friday's "I totally have a plan you guys, the banks who underwrote this purchase obviously required me to have a plan, anyway we're going bankrupt lol" shitshow will be funnier than Thursday's version

its like our genesis story. history repeats itself!

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:08

Clyde Radcliffe: Oct 19, 2014

Waltzing Along posted:

How long until Elmo is no longer the richest man?

Also, I like the idea of forcing a bunch of managers to actually know how to do the jobs of the people they are managing.

It's something that sounds good but is really hard to do in practice.

I failed upwards into management just from being around long enough to get promoted. I could do the job of any of the engineers on my team, but I suck at general management skills and no amount of mandatory management training is ever going to fix that.

I work with people who've come in as professional managers with very few technical skills, but an understanding of what results are expected from their team and how to get their team to deliver. Sending them on a crash course programming boot camp isn't going to make them better managers.

People who are excellent at a technical level and also able to navigate all the bullshit of management are very rare. I've only known a handful and they've been some of the best people I've ever worked with.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:09

Vire: Nov 4, 2005; Like a Bosh

Imagine seeing how this guy runs twitter and thinking I want this guy to run a whole planet and lock yourself in a metal cylinder prison with him and have a life sentence on a harsh unforgiving world with THAT GUY.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:22

Ror: Oct 21, 2010; 😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟

Imagine seeing this guy and deciding that you�re gonna let that musky peanus bust inside you.

It happened a dozen times.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:24

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

HOLY poo poo TWITTER IS MARXISM ON STEROIDS. Small microscopic changes upset the entire capitalist order such as: a 16 year old posing as a pharmaceutical company and thus tanking their stock

Can you imagine being briefed as the CEO on this development.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:24

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Vire posted:

20 billion in market cap. Loses like these though are typically pretty temporary unless this starts like a new public awareness campaign against pharmaceuticals and people actually start giving a poo poo.

It�s probably the shareholders who will sue since many of them will have incurred losses selling their shares as a result of the tweet.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:26

goatface: Dec 5, 2007; I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.; Grimey Drawer

I wonder how many auto-trading algorithms are getting hosed about.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:32

Seth Pecksniff: May 27, 2004; can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

repiv posted:

Trump and Elon are both generating lols at a pace I'm not sure humanity can sustain

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:34

Swilo: Jun 2, 2004; ANIME SUCKS HARD

https://twitter.com/AmalasRosa/status/1591115490839367680

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:34

DaveWoo: Aug 14, 2004; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/rj_gallagher/status/1591147571996921856

My "don't worry, you're not going to go to jail" T-shirt...

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:34

ymgve: Jan 2, 2004; Offensive Clock

goatface posted:

I wonder how many auto-trading algorithms are getting hosed about.

I would assume the auto-trading algorithms are already set up with which Twitter usernames they should monitor, so fake imposters wouldn't affect that at all. And if any of them are doing more advanced sentiment analysis, I think Twitter Blue "verification" looks like something completely new in the API responses.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:35

Bad Purchase: Jun 17, 2019

Ror posted:

Imagine seeing this guy and deciding that you�re gonna let that musky peanus bust inside you.

It happened a dozen times.

the funniest part of all of musk's fathering activities to me is the woman who works for him at neuralink and had his twins, but did so through IVF because he was too gross to gently caress

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:36

Hollismason: Jun 30, 2007; An alright dude.

Don't work at any job where you are in the position to go to jail.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:36

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

DaveWoo posted:

https://twitter.com/rj_gallagher/status/1591147571996921856

My "don't worry, you're not going to go to jail" T-shirt...

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1591161346766565376?s=20&t=7hWOe04JNEQCr4vhNVZRJQ

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:36

Rad Russian: Aug 15, 2007; Soviet Power Supreme!

Interesting focus on "jail" specifically. Jail/prison is actually rare for these cases. Getting dragged through courts and bankrupted/fined into homelessness? A lot more likely, although yeah technically you're not in jail. Musk isn't going to rescue you financially or cover your legal fees.

# ? Nov 11, 2022 21:39