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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Plan R
Oct 5, 2021

For Romeo
This is a thing --

https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1591135983147548673

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

Yeah every software engineer who’s worked corporate for more than a year can tell you that getting a new manager is like a 70% chance you get a blustering idiot who doesn’t know how to code and you’re not sure how they ever got hired, they don’t understand the job or the product but they have some Extremely Important Ideas they need you to get right on top of, stat. And their deadlines are about 80% too short but if you tell them this they’ll write you up for underperforming.

This when you realize there’s a great deal of people in the world who are unswayed by rational conversation about mundane but provable topics like “does the product have this feature” and also have a complete surefire belief at their own business acumen. Even actual failures in front of their faces do not make them pull back. This is stupidity in a nutshell.

You don’t need any other motive to explain Elon. Or nearly any other remarkable failure in the industry where something obvious just crashes and burns into a garbage pile.

Yeah calling him an "elemental" of any kind oversells just how common and mundane his incompetence actually is.

If Elmo's Daddy hadn't had a "safe so full of money we literally had trouble closing it" then Elon would be nothing more than a bland white noise poster here struggling to make ends meet at a call center, crying at YOSPOS bullying and convincing himself that the waitress does indeed like him.

He's a rich failson who bought his way as far as he possibly could to get people to like him. Nothing more.

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

kazil posted:

My understanding was that Twitter was pushing the courts to force Elon to buy and a settlement wasn't really an option

yeah, he agreed to hold the biggest bag in history and the sellers knew it

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Flyinglemur posted:

Shoulda been a sink

And now it is!

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

It's also annoying how when the dust settles he's absolutely going to default into the "I meant to do that bow before your puppetmaster" defense

Tricky Ed
Aug 18, 2010

It is important to avoid confusion. This is the one that's okay to lick.


He's already doing the "these problems you speak of are not problems, but also they're already fixed by a thing we've just announced but isn't available yet" thing that Tesla's famous for.

He really is the terrible manager who keeps his job because he'll harass anyone who tries to fire him.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

kdrudy posted:

Yep, as a guy who codes, I don't think we should be called engineers unless you take the test and actually get the proper official license.

I like to troll my peers by dropping the bomb that we’re not real engineers. At least like once a year.

halokiller
Dec 28, 2008

Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves


Unperson_47 posted:

In awe that SomethingAwful will outlive Twitter

its going to outlive twitter and facebook meta

Plan R
Oct 5, 2021

For Romeo
My state having a bit of fun --

https://twitter.com/waDNR/status/1591090938990198784

https://twitter.com/waDNR/status/1591103417145257985

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

kazil posted:

My understanding was that Twitter was pushing the courts to force Elon to buy and a settlement wasn't really an option
That's the line they used because you always want to maximize your recovery in a court, and the biggest recovery would have been, well, $44 billion for the whole kit and kaboodle. Don't negotiate against yourself from the start.

However, that's not to say that litigation was risk free or that given the option of chugging along as a non-Musk company while pocketing a cool $10 billion (say) for basically nothing, Twitter wouldn't have accepted that. "We're pleased that we squeezed free money from the 'richest' man on Earth and will continue to muddle along" would have been realistically the best outcome for everyone involved. This is a close second given the comedy but it'll be a little sad when the last person has to shut the lights off before they leave.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

MrQwerty posted:

Twitter wasn't pushing anything, Elon Musk was going to be forced to purchase Twitter no matter what or eat the pullout fee and look like an idiot at some point because he signed a bulletproof, airtight contract specifically written to gently caress him sight-unseen.

He decided buying Twitter would make him look like less of an idiot.

Lol is he loving over Twitter out of spite?

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
People are getting a little wishful with the “fake tweet wipes out billions in stock!” takes

https://twitter.com/nomchompsky/status/1591468402962739200?s=46&t=gj5JOjvCy0zDD9HIOtUjeQ

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

No, he's loving over Twitter because he's a moron. I believe he legitimately thinks he's doing his best, except his "best" is to be an enraged bull in a fine china shop and wondering why the value of his inventory has plummeted. He Dunning-Krugered himself into a scenario where his brand of moving fast and breaking things leaves a trail of broken things worth nothing.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Karate Bastard posted:

I cannot believe Elon is this stupid. He must be doing this on purpose. Which is monumentally stupid. Even more stupid? What is there possibly for him to gain in this?

He’s even dumber than this

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

kw0134:eightbux: posted:

Dunning-Krugerrand

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022
We all want to rationalize stupid behavior somehow since we can’t imagine what it would be like to be so self pompous that, when a position of power, we would tell someone they’re wrong when they said the sky was blue. “Well I was just outside and it looked pretty gray to me”

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

Entropic posted:

People are getting a little wishful with the “fake tweet wipes out billions in stock!” takes
An awful lot of healthcare (including health insurance) companies' stocks fell by roughly the same amount at the same time, too. One obviously fake tweet doesn’t do that.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Musk being killed by a rocket would be a perfect ending. A modern-day Icarus who flew too close to the true wealthy elite of the world and undone by his hubris

He won't be killed by a rocket because he's too scared to put his money where his mouth is, unlike Branson and Bezos

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

We all want to rationalize stupid behavior somehow since we can’t imagine what it would be like to be so self pompous that, when a position of power, we would tell someone they’re wrong when they said the sky was blue. “Well I was just outside and it looked pretty gray to me”

As someone pointed out earlier, it's the same as "actually, Trump is playing 5d chess"

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Tea Party Crasher posted:

Musk being killed by a rocket would be a perfect ending. A modern-day Icarus who flew too close to the true wealthy elite of the world and undone by his hubris

imagining the open act of Iron Man 1 but at the end he's made a crunched beer can with a whistle in it and dies immediately

Plan R
Oct 5, 2021

For Romeo
Grain of salt and all --

https://twitter.com/MEASeybold/status/1590467894244438018

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

We all want to rationalize stupid behavior somehow since we can’t imagine what it would be like to be so self pompous that, when a position of power, we would tell someone they’re wrong when they said the sky was blue. “Well I was just outside and it looked pretty gray to me”

Well I mean we can, but most of us call that "Being a smart-rear end kid and a few figurative or literal rear end-whoopings helped us get over that poo poo."

Now imagine being so rich and insulated like Donny Dump Trump or Elmo "Emerald Mistary" Muskrat and never ever needing to grow out of it. All you have to do is keep on doubling down and you'll always find some toadies willing to suck you off.

Really what says more about those guys than anything is that they have to insist on engaging with the public, which means that likely even their own socioeconomic peer groups of idiotically wealthy failsons can't loving stand 'em and their only instinct for making connections are with people who literally can't afford to tell them to get better.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)


that is absolutely what he is, though

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:

Strong Sauce posted:

so i found this on a tiktok...

but right now if you load twitter dot com and look at the developer tools. chrome is reporting warnings about a source map being missing.

....

except i guess there's no one left to do that and the person who had to deploy probably did not understand the deploy process well enough to either disable development tools or in a rush accidentally pushed a copy on their own machine...

well holy poo poo

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

Karate Bastard posted:

Lol is he loving over Twitter out of spite?

I keep wondering then this but I remember if that were true and he wasn't an incompetent clownfucker it wouldn't look like this, he wouldn't be exposing the darkest parts of his rear end to an FTC holding a pointy stick to say nothing about what potential future investors should now think

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006


Ugh I hate how plausible this is. The only thing that gives me pause is that Twitter's core usership is made up of enough plugged-in people in a wide enough array of industries to really raise a stink about this before/during their inevitable lockout, and it'd require competing figures to rally up behind Elmo. Shot in the dark, I'd guess that comes down to whether or not Elmo actually does have the liquidity to buy their loyalty.

I could see it happening, I do think there's real truth to that being a possible dark avenue, and people should be ready to offer up meaningful road blocks to keep it from happening.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Stoatbringer posted:

well holy poo poo


rofl

MrChrome
Jan 21, 2001
Annnd he flew back to Austin. All in a weeks work! See everybody back in San Fran on Monday.

https://nitter.net/ElonJet

kronix
Jul 1, 2004


That’s basically the difference between junior and senior engineers. Junior engineers think through rapid refactoring and high code quality and careful algorithm selection, they can fix anything.

The senior engineer knows that the code nobody has touched in a decade produces 7 figures a year in revenue so you don’t loving touch it unless there’s a security issue or the business says you need to.

After decades of experience you just know nothing is ever as simple as it looks.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

mind the walrus posted:

Ugh I hate how plausible this is. The only thing that gives me pause is that Twitter's core usership is made up of enough plugged-in people in a wide enough array of industries to really raise a stink about this before/during their inevitable lockout, and it'd require competing figures to rally up behind Elmo. Shot in the dark, I'd guess that comes down to whether or not Elmo actually does have the liquidity to buy their loyalty.

I could see it happening, I do think there's real truth to that being a possible dark avenue, and people should be ready to offer up meaningful road blocks to keep it from happening.

The Dark Future Twitter he's positing is just what Facebook is right now, I'm not worried about it because we're already there :thumbsup:

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016


The difference is that conservative AM radio was very profitable for a long time. This will not even be close to profitable, and Elon will not be able to sustain this even if he tried the 3rd option described here.

Plan R
Oct 5, 2021

For Romeo

Rigel posted:

The difference is that conservative AM radio was very profitable for a long time. This will not even be close to profitable, and Elon will not be able to sustain this even if he tried the 3rd option described here.

Not unless Elon's willing to talk about Bigfoot and the Mothman for 10 hours a day 6 days a week.

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

Also people vastly, vastly overestimates the reach Twitter has. Everyone had an AM radio, and the level of engagement was as simple as flipping a switch and leaving it running in the background. The number of people logging in to engage on the network is multiple orders of magnitude lower, and they already tend to run in their own circles. If Musk turns it into Truth Social Lite, then it dies faster because those dirty libs will leave, and the conservatives will leave because the point is to try to own the libs and if they're not there why bother?

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?



lol, twitter's userbase would need to be greatly scaled back for that to happen. Turning the site into that will be expensive to maintain, and the only companies willing to advertise on it will be very shady. There is also the issue that credit card companies don't like doing payments to porn sites because there are a lot of chargebacks. Pornhub is only worth around $1.5 billion, and its the largest porn site. It'd also probably get banned from the apple store if that happened.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

kw0134 posted:

Also people vastly, vastly overestimates the reach Twitter has. Everyone had an AM radio, and the level of engagement was as simple as flipping a switch and leaving it running in the background. The number of people logging in to engage on the network is multiple orders of magnitude lower, and they already tend to run in their own circles. If Musk turns it into Truth Social Lite, then it dies faster because those dirty libs will leave, and the conservatives will leave because the point is to try to own the libs and if they're not there why bother?

Yeah people really overestimate internet apps when comparing them to AM radios and transistor radios and poo poo. My dad saved up money to build a transistor radio kit when he was a paperboy so he could listen to his own personal radio, on the FM band even!

Twitter is not like that, never was, and never will be.

Plan R
Oct 5, 2021

For Romeo

Stoatbringer posted:

well holy poo poo


Somewhere there's a computer making an alarm sound and nobody there to attend to it.

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way

Plan R posted:

Not unless Elon's willing to talk about Bigfoot and the Mothman for 10 hours a day 6 days a week.

i would applaud this turn of events

kojei
Feb 12, 2008

Stoatbringer posted:

well holy poo poo


Not to defend the wildly inept manchild or anything but this has always happened if you have third party cookies disabled.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Plan R posted:

Not unless Elon's willing to talk about Bigfoot and the Mothman for 10 hours a day 6 days a week.

Wait, is Joe Rogan the Mothman or is he Bigfoot?

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Plan R
Oct 5, 2021

For Romeo

Toaster Beef posted:

i would applaud this turn of events

It'll be him and Joe Rogan. It'll be like Twitch and only the top donors can "chuff a flit" for only fifty dogecoins.

The rest of you swine can only bask in the glorious light you have funded for your betters to consume copious amounts of drugs that are now legal in most civilized states.

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