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Mayor Dave posted:impossible to prove the veracity of an oral tradition from a distance of thousands of years but sure, some of it was probably real and based on real things Don’t think anyone is making the argument that the Bible is literally true, just that natural disasters happened in the past and clearly had an impact on cultures that is reflected in their mythology.
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Nov 11, 2022 20:15
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SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt — President Biden pledged that the United States will “do our part to avert” a “climate hell,” citing a warning by the U.N. secretary general earlier this week in Sharm el-Sheikh, the Egyptian resort city hosting this year’s U.N. Climate Change Conference. “We’re not ignoring harbingers that are already here,” Biden said in an address to the conference, known as COP27. “So many disasters — the climate crisis is hitting hardest those countries and communities that have the fewest resources to respond and to recover.” During this first week, talks have heavily focused on wealthy nations’ obligations to reduce their own emissions and help address the consequences of climate change in the developing world.
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Nov 11, 2022 22:24
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lmao that the COP is being held in the Lamborghini Convention Center and is unbearably cold inside from too much air conditioning, too hot outside from being a desert, has no food, and involves long confusing treks and harassment by armed guardsquote:For Cop delegates, however, the experience has often been bewildering as they funnel into the cavernous venue, the Tonino Lamborghini International Convention Center, a place that has at various times lacked food, water, internet connection or a bearable temperature between the blazing sunshine outside and the frigid temperatures generated indoors by hulking air conditioning units that resemble plane engines. no foreshadowing here,
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Nov 11, 2022 22:28
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Trabisnikof posted:lmao that the COP is being held in the Lamborghini Convention Center and is unbearably cold inside from too much air conditioning, too hot outside from being a desert, has no food, and involves long confusing treks and harassment by armed guards oh it’s not COP27 but just Cop now??
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Nov 11, 2022 22:34
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Trabisnikof posted:lmao that the COP is being held in the Lamborghini Convention Center and is unbearably cold inside from too much air conditioning, too hot outside from being a desert, has no food, and involves long confusing treks and harassment by armed guards 
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Nov 11, 2022 22:48
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Trabisnikof posted:lmao that the COP is being held in the Lamborghini Convention Center and is unbearably cold inside from too much air conditioning, too hot outside from being a desert, has no food, and involves long confusing treks and harassment by armed guards
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Nov 11, 2022 23:10
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Trabisnikof posted:lmao that the COP is being held in the Lamborghini Convention Center and is unbearably cold inside from too much air conditioning, too hot outside from being a desert, has no food, and involves long confusing treks and harassment by armed guards I'm the climate activist unable to feed myself without a food stand.
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Nov 11, 2022 23:39
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a strange fowl posted:i have a theory that the eden story goes back way further than people think it does, to the point where our ancestors stopped living exclusively on leafy greens (as most arboreal primates do) and started eating fruit. i also think the "fruit of knowledge" was an egg. what else would you learn to eat from watching the snakes? moving from leaves to fruit and eggs meant more sugar, more nutrients, more everything, and also spurred the evolution of opposable thumbs, causing a massive leap in cognition with terrible results. the bit at the end of the story about "from the grass of the field shall you have bread to eat", and the ever-turning fiery sword that guards the gates of eden, represents when humans learnt to burn the forest down so the fields of grass would grow in the ruins, one of the most ancient agricultural techniques. yes, grain was a major innovation, but levantine agriculture was incompatible with forests from that point onward. Obviously impossible to attribute to oral traditions over deep time, but interesting perspective. I played the game Ancestors The Humankind Odyssey, a science-lite portrayal of hominids in Africa as they evolve through the eons. You start out as pre-australopithecine apes in the jungle and go up through our family tree until homo ergaster, which A.aferensis being the last playable species, so the game occurs in the late Miocene. You're basically a monkey for half the game if not more, I haven't played all the species yet. One of the way you evolve is by becoming omnivorous. The game starts off with a "missing link" species to stand in for whatever there was before early hominids and they eat fruit, but I can't say if that's a game thing or that before the late Miocene primates were fruigivores. When you try to eat stuff like fish or mushrooms or eggs your ape gets a tummy ache and you have to unlock the 'gene' to let you eat that stuff. When I saw that I was 'huh, that makes sense, animals can't just eat whatever until their digestive systems can break that food down and that had to be evolved over time'. A snake teaching hominids to eat eggs as a basis for the Eden myth is fascinating.
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Nov 12, 2022 00:01
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snake mouth eat the eggs
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Nov 12, 2022 01:07
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Snake mouth we trusted u
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Nov 12, 2022 04:00
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Are climate change emissions finally going down? Definitely notquote:Emissions fell by about 5% in 2020 as the pandemic grounded flights and slowed industrial activity. But the following year, emissions from burning fossil fuels bounced back by the same amount and are expected to grow by 1% this year. congrats everybody
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Nov 12, 2022 06:46
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What’s the big dead? The CO2 already existed on earth and it wasn’t a big deal before. We just moved it around a bit. 
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Nov 12, 2022 08:17
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no country is going to reduce emissions for real, the only reduction will be accounting tricks we're on an express elevator to hell
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Nov 12, 2022 12:06
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tired: eco-fascism wired: eco-communism inspired: eco-christianity
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Nov 12, 2022 12:10
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Retired: eco-systems
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Nov 12, 2022 12:11
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lmfao
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Nov 12, 2022 12:12
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Zodium posted:tired: eco-fascism
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Nov 12, 2022 12:56
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starkebn posted:no country is going to reduce emissions for real, the only reduction will be accounting tricks You doomers are so wrong. I can list several countries well on their way to reducing their emissions by 100%: Kiribati, Maldives, Palau, and Tuvalu.
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Nov 12, 2022 16:51
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I thought the eden myth was about agriculture? At first we 'lived in the garden' foraging and living as the animals do, and stole knowledge from the gods and bent life itself to our purposes, which lead to our misery and 'knowing we were naked' and so on.
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Nov 12, 2022 17:07
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pakistan's emissions are probably cut in half
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Nov 12, 2022 17:42
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Car Hater posted:Retired: eco-systems
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Nov 12, 2022 18:20
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Zodium posted:lmfao
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Nov 12, 2022 18:20
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thank god for eco-mmerce
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Nov 12, 2022 19:07
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Eddy-Baby posted:Browsing climate twitter and amongst all the doom, denial and growth brains, an unexpected cameo from a thread favourite hell yeah power to the glorious posting weirdos
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Nov 12, 2022 20:17
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You think if we made farting illegal we’d have a chance at this thing or no?
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Nov 12, 2022 21:33
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we did it guys https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-13/earths-population-reaches-eight-billion-people/101643854
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Nov 12, 2022 21:57
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starkebn posted:we did it guys Hell yeah my men. Can we get to 10 billion before we start eating each other?
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Nov 12, 2022 22:20
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Soggy Muffin posted:Hell yeah my men. Can we get to 10 billion before we start eating each other? The UN projects population will reach around 10.4 billion in 2080 before there's a decline, due to dropping birth rates. lol, as if we're getting to 2080 before conditions change dramatically
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Nov 12, 2022 22:28
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MightyBigMinus posted:graeber makes a passing reference to this in that one book, basically the sea level rise that occurred ~6 - 16k years ago is probably the main reason we think "civilization" started about 6k years ago. meaning that its entirely possible there's tens of thousands of years of human civilization simply under water. especially off steeper coasts like central america and peru. the oceans truly are filled with cringe
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Nov 12, 2022 22:32
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Blockade posted:I thought the eden myth was about agriculture? also, human language begins with names for individual animals.
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Nov 12, 2022 22:42
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we’ll be back under 8 billion very soon
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Nov 12, 2022 22:42
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i like to read genesis as a timeline of science. if you assume every time a new technology appears in the text, that's when it was mastered irl - i'm talking things like fire, skins, wood building, brick building, lentils, etc - it fits together remarkably well. the chronological order isn't perfect, but the technological innovations that appear are an interesting way of dating the events in the text and the general corresponding level of civilisation
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Nov 12, 2022 22:53
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also, abel is the neanderthals and cain and sons are the indo-europeans
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Nov 12, 2022 22:54
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dribble my bibble
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Nov 12, 2022 23:00
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Dude take this dumb poo poo to the ufo thread or somewhere
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Nov 12, 2022 23:00
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i have been sent to this thread alone to spread the light
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Nov 12, 2022 23:10
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none of you deserve it!
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Nov 12, 2022 23:23
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bible stuff is interesting imo. you don’t have to believe in god to believe it was written by humans thousands of years ago and is a historical text by virtue of that
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Nov 12, 2022 23:36
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I think it's pretty obvious the poo poo in the Bible wasn't made up from scratch and if you give any fucks about history (you should! even if it's only the parts that interest you) it's certainly worth investigating what real inspiration it drew from for its stories
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Nov 12, 2022 23:48
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a strange fowl posted:none of you deserve it! Bibles, birds, biodiversity
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