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Was Igor always such a tool? e. Like did he go after people who disagreed with his 3000-series capacitor article? Jeff Fatwood fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Nov 12, 2022 |
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To answer my own question I guess https://twitter.com/AlexandraYume/status/1591206186061549569
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ONE MORE TIME!! https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1591526179802173445
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Jeff Fatwood posted:Was Igor always such a tool? If he did, no one probably noticed because the consensus was he was right and anyone with a trusted platform agreed with him. They absolutely already have that unit shipped and just made someone at Dell poo poo their pants.
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Nov 13, 2022 00:51
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I'd be surprised if they didn't already have the thing in hand before announcing that.
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Nov 13, 2022 01:34
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If they didn't you can say they're giving Dell every chance possible to produce something decent.
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power crystals posted:I'd be surprised if they didn't already have the thing in hand before announcing that. It seems they posted that before or just after placing the order. Steve says it doesn't matter since Alienwares' issues can't be fixed with advance notice. Nothing is ever wrong with the actual build quality. It's the fundamental design that's always flawed.
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a $4500 computer with 32gb of ram and a hard drive
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Wild EEPROM posted:a $4500 computer with 32gb of ram and a hard drive A one terabyte hard drive, an 8tb WD Black might make sense but that thing's the same size as the NVMe
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Wild EEPROM posted:a $4500 computer with 32gb of ram and a hard drive thanks steve
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When he buys pre-builts anonymously he uses his alias, Beve Sturk
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chaleski posted:When he buys pre-builts anonymously he uses his alias, Beve Sturk get it right jeez it's beve sturkE
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Thanks, Beve
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Eve Sturkeb
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I know OEMs are hesitant to use XMP profiles since that technically means running the memory out of spec, but Raptor Lake's official DDR5 support goes up to 5600, doesn't it? Is there any justification for using DDR5-4800 at this point aside from being unbelievably cheap? (for your $4500 pc lmao)
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I know OEMs are hesitant to use XMP profiles since that technically means running the memory out of spec, but Raptor Lake's official DDR5 support goes up to 5600, doesn't it? Is there any justification for using DDR5-4800 at this point aside from being unbelievably cheap? (for your $4500 pc lmao) No-one buying an Alienware in 2022 knows what a RAM speed is.
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MadFriarAvelyn posted:Thanks, Beve Bants.
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LampkinsMateSteve posted:Bants.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2px7ofKhQ GN reporting on the 4090 adapters
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Aux power connectors especially at that amount of wattage was always a terrible idea imo. PCIe CEM form factor sucks for high power applications.
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It almost makes more sense for video cards to have a separate power brick externally and a plug of their own at this point.
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AlternateAccount posted:It almost makes more sense for video cards to have a separate power brick externally and a plug of their own at this point. 
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I’d much rather have another power cable going to my PC instead of having to deal with ever more expensive, bulky, and catch-on-firery PSUs and connectors.
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Something has already gone terribly wrong with the industry that a daughterboard is expected to draw 600W.
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I think that's only a 60W power brick too
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Something has already gone terribly wrong with the industry that a daughterboard is expected to draw 600W. Why? GPUs are insanely dense and do a ton of work. A Zen4 CCD is 72.5 square millimeters. AD102, the 4090 core, is 608.5 square millimeters. Why is it a shock or bad when something ten times as big uses ten times the power?
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The operative word here is "daughterboard" - we've had this conversation here a few times but you can really feel the ATX standard fraying at the edges
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K8.0 posted:Why? GPUs are insanely dense and do a ton of work. A Zen4 CCD is 72.5 square millimeters. AD102, the 4090 core, is 608.5 square millimeters. Why is it a shock or bad when something ten times as big uses ten times the power? EDIT: The point I was trying to make is that if you're building a daughterboard that draws up to 800W, it's probably smarter to split that single daughterboard into multiple daughterboards - each of them can be good at one thing, for example one has a shitload of tensorflow cores, another has raytracing cores, and so on and so forth. That way, you also don't need to ship an actual piece of plastic or metal that the person using the device is meant to install to prevent the device from ripping itself or its socket away from the motherboard due to gravity. EDIT: And it's not like we don't have an interconnect for it either; the HGX platform uses NVSwitch so if PCI isn't fast enough that's not really an excuse. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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That AMD's top card this generation is 320W (and hell even the 4080 is 320W stated TDP) says GPU power isn't growing as quickly as it seems. The 4090 is just a gigantic outlier which only furthers the thought that the xx90 cards are just what Nvidia replaced the Titan name with. What should be explicitly productivity cards are being pushed as gaming cards now they realise nerds will pay whatever they ask for them.
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the 7900XTX is 355W actually and that was ridiculous enough last-gen. the 4090 is a huge outlier though yeah
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:I'm not sure what your point is here, or what it has to do with what I said. Splitting it up into multiple boards is almost certainly not practical because of the latency cost, but if your point is more that the form factor is the problem then I absolutely agree. We need a new PCI-E form factor for GPUs, something that can provide better structural support and better cooling possibilities. If people weren't afraid of snapping their GPUs or trying to stuff them into a case where they don't fit because of height, there probably would be a lot fewer errors made with power connectors.
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replacing ATX is too hard, lets just flip it around and make the GPU in ATX form factor and plug the CPU into it as an expansion card like those intel compute elements
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well why not posted:bring back horizontal cases Actually this.
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Cooler master says hello from like 10 years ago: https://smile.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-EVO-Motherboard/dp/B00FFJ0H3Q  You can also just lie a tower on its side but with all the stupid glass it might not be so good.
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SalTheBard posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2px7ofKhQ Multiple shots at Igor's Lab, I like it
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chaleski posted:Multiple shots at Igor's Lab, I like it I loved Steves speech at the end. I'm glad I'm waiting for the 4070 to come out, hopefully by then all the fires will be done and I will know "do X not Y"
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maingear x shroud (twitch streamer) with some equity deal involved should be an interesting review some day https://maingear.com/shroud/ i'm assuming maingear are billing themselves as a premium prebuilt brand with these prices. although the front intake is ... interesting
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kliras posted:maingear x shroud (twitch streamer) with some equity deal involved lol at charging $2600 for a 3080 machine in november of 2022. I was looking around yesterday and found several prebuilts on amazon from CyberPowerPC with a ~13700K and 4080 for around $2600. Though... those also only came with a single 16GB stick of DDR5 (speed unspecified).
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