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PhazonLink posted:?? The bigger problem is that on a planetary scale, a nuke isn't very powerful and the blast doesn't last very long. They're great for creating a temporarily lethal environment in an area the size of a major human population center. They are not great for creating enough heat energy to melt a loving ice cap. There are some theoretical writeups of it but basically for enough heat energy to melt one Martian ice cap, assuming 100% of the energy transferred into the ice and actually transferred in a way that melted it instead of vaporizing some of it and left some of it alone, you'd need about 4,000 nuclear bombs, and it wouldn't even stay melted. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Nov 12, 2022 |
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Young Freud posted:Elon pulled his bio that said he owned Twitter... https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1591030123574480896?t=XeKUQ9fsSkZISMKXd5wFEw&s=19 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591103912769392641 He doesn't even know what the hell he paid $44 billion for.
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Nov 12, 2022 03:10
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Should have asked him about rival messaging platform Updog
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OneEightHundred posted:.... oh thats what I thought. isnt earth still not a Kardashev level 1 civ? lol at musk not getting orders of magnitude between ALL OF EARTH NUKES vs a planet. also bet you could trick him with a dry ice bomb or a balloon pop.
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Nov 12, 2022 03:47
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PhazonLink posted:oh thats what I thought. isnt earth still not a Kardashev level 1 civ? lol at musk not getting orders of magnitude between ALL OF EARTH NUKES vs a planet. also bet you could trick him with a dry ice bomb or a balloon pop. Nope. I generally see humanity rated as something around 0.6-0.7
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PhazonLink posted:?? Separating from the Musk poo poo for a bit, the US had Project Plowshare and the Soviets had a similar gig going on where they experimented with using nukes for massive earthmoving. Canal building was a big part of this. What everybody discovered is dirty bombs; the radioactive fallout from doing these detonations was so much worse than military use and everybody gave up on it.
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haveblue posted:That’s the picture of the small, sad ball pit at the very poorly run Tumblr convention I think the twitchcon foam pit is a more apt metaphor at this point.
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Nov 12, 2022 07:29
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Cabbit posted:Wonder if this has anything to do with that: A few of these algorithms doing an initial sudden sell-off would trigger the other high-frequency trading algorithms that aren't tapped into twitter, but which respond quickly to unexpected and sudden price changes.
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Nov 12, 2022 13:13
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haveblue posted:My “you probably won’t go to jail for me” T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt Whenever company legal tries to assure you to won't be criminally liable for doing as the company asks you should probably send them an email inquiring in writing about little things like if they're acting in any capacity to represent you with that advice / is this legal advice lol
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Inferior Third Season posted:This may not have even involved any humans. Hedge funds and investment banks long ago gave up on market fundamentals for making decisions - rumors and short-term price movements are the primary drivers. I would be shocked if at least some of them haven't implemented systems that read all public tweets and use machine-learning to figure out whether there is "good" or "bad" chatter about a particular company. And all of the training sets the algorithms used would have weighted official company names with blue check marks as the most trustworthy. It doesn't even have to be that involved (although it partially is): a day trader scrolling through Twitter is going to see that a "verified" account is announcing something and doesn't have the time to see if the bio is legit or not. They have seconds to react before running to an exchange floor to either start buying or selling. Now multiple that by hundreds of traders.
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Nov 12, 2022 15:15
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thats dumb and maybe we should ban high frequency trading. humans dont experience life on micro or nano second time scales, why the gently caress should a company's value flux on that scale then too?
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Nov 12, 2022 16:26
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Also "I better make this decision as fast as possible without even doing any cursory research, before the other guy who also can't have done any research makes a decision" sounds like a very poor basis for valuing anything, let alone things supposedly worth billions of dollars.
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Nov 12, 2022 16:59
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This seems pretty concerning... https://twitter.com/this_lampert/status/1591424934815096832?s=20&t=71h_EfInBDezNDAAmJr_-A
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Nov 12, 2022 22:38
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"Test it in prod" indeed.
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Nov 12, 2022 22:58
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Usually there's at least three environments that the server code exists in: dev, staging, and prod. Dev is getting updated near-constantly as developers push changes, staging periodically batches a bunch of recent changes for manual and/or automated tests, and if the tests pass then those changes go to prod (production), where actual customers see them. Sometimes there's also a 'test' environment in between dev and staging. Anyway if customers are seeing the dev environment, or code that was intended to only be seen in the dev environment somehow, that's a very bad sign. Not super surprising though, if Musk is getting people to quickly push out random new changes.
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Nov 12, 2022 23:13
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Yeah, dev is supposed to be the "safe to experiment with" environment; there isn't an env before that unless the Devs are running a local development one on their own machine. Still I'm curious why they would even run stuff in Dev directly instead of pushing it to prod, if they want to use it in prod 
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Nov 12, 2022 23:18
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To me it sounds more like rushed engineers left in code that logs to dev tools when they pushed to prod
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That Italian Guy posted:Yeah, dev is supposed to be the "safe to experiment with" environment; there isn't an env before that unless the Devs are running a local development one on their own machine. Still I'm curious why they would even run stuff in Dev directly instead of pushing it to prod, if they want to use it in prod That's how I took it. Or, pulling away from internet-focused to more commonly-understood software engineering, Musk is basically running a beta-in-a-box version of Twitter until they can get things working with the customers.
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Nov 12, 2022 23:51
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Remember: Musk ordered employees to cut infrastructure costs by I believe literally 1 billion dollars. There is a decent loving chance that this isn't so much "testing dev in prod" as it is "prod's all that's left, buckle up chucklefucks it's all happening live now"
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Nov 13, 2022 01:05
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Alternatively “all the release engineers got fired, is there anyone left who has even a vague idea of how to deploy”
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The article posted here the other day said that they have fired 80% of their infrastructure engineering teams - that means system admins, network eng, Dev ops, etc. While this doesn't mean many people for a company the size of Twitter as an absolute number, this still means that 4 out of 5 people that were deemed necessary to run the infra before have been let go...I wonder if certain teams even have someone else to run peer code reviews in the same continent/timezone - or at all.
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Dude's lining up to find out the hard way that the staff he just let go for being too expensive to pay were actually keeping the company from having to pay even more expensive noncompliance fines Assuming the infra lasts long enough for them to incur any...
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https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1591827463583453190?t=84Ou3hZw_9N5kvRA0NaeHA&s=19 getting into slapfights with sitting senators is interesting uh strategy elon
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Xand_Man posted:https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1591827463583453190?t=84Ou3hZw_9N5kvRA0NaeHA&s=19 Sitting senators whose party retained majority, too, despite his efforts!
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Nov 13, 2022 18:50
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He's picked fights with several Dem senators and federal organizations before and has never faced any consequences. Why would this be different?
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Nov 13, 2022 18:59
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koolkal posted:He's picked fights with several Dem senators and federal organizations before and has never faced any consequences. Because now he’s loving with some very important things: -the money of rich people -the media ecosystem politicians depend on -a watchdog agency that does not gently caress around -national security (through SpaceX DOD contracts) He’s an emperor who just ripped off all his clothes in the public square and everyone with power who has ever resented him smells blood in the water
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Nov 13, 2022 19:06
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He has caused a huge pharmaceutical company to lose a billion dollars since the last time?
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I AM GRANDO posted:He has caused a huge pharmaceutical company to lose a billion dollars since the last time? Also, a large defense contractor, at least at last count. There's probably a few others that haven't registered yet, but Eli Lilly and Lockheed Martin losing billions due to satirical posts from impersonating accounts is the most well-known of the big business losses due to Twitter posts.
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Elon wearing his "we'll be fully complaint with the FTC" t-shirt
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actually his current bird avatar is a multi thousand dollar halloween costume, some generic "demon/devil " leather /pleather armor.
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haveblue posted:Because now he’s loving with some very important things: I AM GRANDO posted:He has caused a huge pharmaceutical company to lose a billion dollars since the last time? Young Freud posted:Also, a large defense contractor, at least at last count. There's probably a few others that haven't registered yet, but Eli Lilly and Lockheed Martin losing billions due to satirical posts from impersonating accounts is the most well-known of the big business losses due to Twitter posts. Stop trying to make me like him.
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BRJurgis posted:Stop trying to make me like him. If it helps, he never intended to do any of those things, they just happened because he's a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and his butt smells and he likes to kiss his own butt. He was defending the drug company before the fact-checking feature of his own site spanked him.
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Elon firing over 80% of his team included the people that tracked and removed illegal activity. This is already going exactly how you think it would. More people than usual are being hacked and illegal material is piling up. The feds aren’t going to be happy. I’ll probably delete my twitter account for security reasons soon. This is only going to get worse and I’m not waiting for Elon’s genius code skills to compromise my account for me, if he hasn’t already.
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TooMuchCornstarch posted:More people than usual are being hacked and illegal material is piling up. The feds aren’t going to be happy. How would you get hacked through twitter?
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Comstar posted:How would you get hacked through twitter? Mostly scam links and social engineering. The usual stuff, just bolder now because most of the administrators got sacked or quit. But I wouldn’t be surprised if some bizarre new vulnerability opened in the past week either.
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TooMuchCornstarch posted:Mostly scam links and social engineering. The usual stuff, just bolder now because most of the administrators got sacked or quit. But I wouldn’t be surprised if some bizarre new vulnerability opened in the past week either. If another log4j or spring framework type vulnerability came up, Twitter would be a known weak target with a lot of users and user info to go after. Remote code execution could turn the fundamental site infrastructure into a scam link, aside from bad links in tweets.
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https://twitter.com/IanColdwater/status/1592188128944705537 https://twitter.com/cartoonbrains/status/1592233920036315138
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Is twitter busted? I can't get any tweets to load.
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They're loading for me, and I'm not even logged in.
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