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ninjewtsu posted:where can i learn more about this Mobile Suit Breakdown. They did a deep dive on F91, as is their custom.
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Tomino when writing Victory: So anyways I started blastin'
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Nov 14, 2022 16:27
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuhT6ogIvg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELDfyuG2CM Ah, overseas English dubs...
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Nov 14, 2022 20:42
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Technically every NA Dub is overseas 🤔
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Nov 14, 2022 20:48
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Gaius Marius posted:Technically every NA Dub is overseas 🤔 lol
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Gaius Marius posted:Technically every NA Dub is overseas 🤔 Technically. But these are more for Singapore or the Philippines. I laughed when I tried watching thr English dub for Build Fighters and Reiji became Rage-y
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Nov 14, 2022 20:50
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One day we're gonna get the Filipino dub of ZZ in complete and the Gundam community can finally rest.
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Nov 14, 2022 20:51
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A few episodes of it surfaced a few months ago and man. I think the main reason Bandai doesn't want to re-release it is the same reason the movie dubs got buried: They just pronounce stuff weird and incorrect. The dub pronounces Haman the same way you would say a ham and cheese sandwich.
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I would be surprised if Bandaid even had a copy. If it ever gets fully released I'd assume it would be someone discovering it hidden in an unmarked box in an old broadcast studio in Manila
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Nov 14, 2022 21:01
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I think they might have an archive of it because I think Rightstuf inquired about it when they were putting together ZZ and they said that Bandai specifically did not allow them to release the dub, not that it was unavailable.
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Nov 14, 2022 21:08
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Waffleman_ posted:A few episodes of it surfaced a few months ago and man. I think the main reason Bandai doesn't want to re-release it is the same reason the movie dubs got buried: They just pronounce stuff weird and incorrect. The dub pronounces Haman the same way you would say a ham and cheese sandwich. And yet the 90s dubs with the wonky Kycillia pronunciation remain. And it's good that they do.
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Gaius Marius posted:I would be surprised if Bandaid even had a copy. Seems like they've made a boo boo then 
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Waffleman_ posted:I think they might have an archive of it because I think Rightstuf inquired about it when they were putting together ZZ and they said that Bandai specifically did not allow them to release the dub, not that it was unavailable. Anybody who has run a property as long as Sunrise is 100% going to have a copy of anything they license out.
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Arc Hammer posted:Technically. But these are more for Singapore or the Philippines. I laughed when I tried watching thr English dub for Build Fighters and Reiji became Rage-y How else would you pronounce it?
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Caphi posted:How else would you pronounce it? With a softer J for starters. A Regime as opposed to a Raging bull. Yeah that's a G but the principle is the same.
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Nov 14, 2022 22:12
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Original at 7:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVbWfGqxLsM&t=459s SEA Dub at 13:56: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmAbJZBPpHw&t=836s The original sounds more like 'reh-jee' than 'ray-jee'. Just localise his name as Reggie and call it quits.
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Nov 14, 2022 23:18
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What was the name of the Gundam game that was kinda like Mechwarrior? It wasn't the PS3 launch title one, was it?
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Arc Hammer posted:What was the name of the Gundam game that was kinda like Mechwarrior? It wasn't the PS3 launch title one, was it? Rise from the Ashes, for Dreamcast. First person, GMs and Guncannons only for the playable suits. Short, but good.
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chiasaur11 posted:Rise from the Ashes, for Dreamcast. First person, GMs and Guncannons only for the playable suits. Short, but good. Thanks. I was trying to remember it. Looks like it has a good sense of weight that I feel is missing from most Gundam games. Mobile suits are fast but they're still heavy.
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robot depression.jpg e: like the slightly hunched-over look just makes me think it's going "aw man" Yinlock fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 18:06
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Anyone care to translate? I'm seeing the "cool, mechanical bits" but I'd like to know the artist name.
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Nov 15, 2022 18:10
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Looks like that twitter feed is the artist.
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Yinlock posted:robot depression.jpg The Charlie Brown music is playing as we speak. (Someone probably told the poor schlub what happens to grunts in Wing.)
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Another one on the board https://twitter.com/chardnasty/status/1592505982017769473?s=46&t=S8jLH3HrpBDRE5Zz235iCg
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Nov 15, 2022 22:09
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Gamigin is apparently the Chinese translation, and it'd be Samigina to English speakers.
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Nov 15, 2022 22:21
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tsob posted:Gamigin is apparently the Chinese translation, and it'd be Samigina to English speakers. Interesting that it's so low in number when Kimaris is so high. Guess the first Falk was pretty good at keeping himself (or herself) alive back in the day. I wonder if that Gundam Eight manga they announced last year has been delayed because it ties to the mobile game. Wanting to keep some prequel reveals as a selling point for the phone game would be one explanation for not having it released yet.
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It's only been what, 3 years now? 4?
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chiasaur11 posted:Interesting that it's so low in number when Kimaris is so high. Guess the first Falk was pretty good at keeping himself (or herself) alive back in the day. All it really indicates is that the unit was made early, not that the pilot survived. He might have killed one or more mobile armors then died, and just had more kills than others by the time the war ended even if he himself was long dead. Or someone else may have started using the unit after the first pilot. Which may not even have been a Falk originally, at least as I understand the history of the Gundam line in the Calamity War. The people that formed the Seven Stars were the ones who killed the most mobile armors and the Gundam they used was kept to their family after the war; that's not to say that no-one else ever used any of the Gundams before them. Also, apparently Gamigin is an alternate name for Samigina from other translations from the original Greek and not the Chinese name, so maybe that is the intended name after all? KInd of confused at this point after seeing multiple posts on the topic going each way. I suppose we won't know for definite until the unit's name is printed in English somewhere. tsob fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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tsob posted:All it really indicates is that the unit was made early, not that the pilot survived. He might have killed one or more mobile suits then died, and just had more kills than others by the time the war ended even if he himself was long dead. Or someone else may have started using the unit after the first pilot. Which may not even have been a Falk originally, at least as I understand the history of the Gundam line in the Calamity War. The ones that formed the Seven Stars were the ones who killed the most mobile armors and the Gundam they used was kept to their family after the war; that's not to say that no-one else ever used any of the Gundams before them. It has the Falk family crest on it, and we know that Agnika was able to make it through the war to die at the start of the peace. Someone else making it through the whole run makes as much sense as anything. Meanwhile, the "Someone else got the Gundam!" theory requires very specific circumstances to kill the pilot without leaving the MS unrecoverable. Plus, surviving from the start would put someone in a better position to get those kills.
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chiasaur11 posted:It has the Falk family crest on it, and we know that Agnika was able to make it through the war to die at the start of the peace. Someone else making it through the whole run makes as much sense as anything. Meanwhile, the "Someone else got the Gundam!" theory requires very specific circumstances to kill the pilot without leaving the MS unrecoverable. It has the Falk crest on it now, but that isn't to say it always had it. The most likely explanation is that it was the one pilot, but there's no reason it had to be either and if someone ever expanded on things in some official capacity, there could be any number of pilots before the end of the war theoretically. Also, if Agnika and whatever Falk pilot had some of the first units but the Baudain family had one of the last ones (number 66 of 72) then the question becomes how good was the Bauduin pilot to say he managed to make it into the ranks while starting so much later than the rest? And how bad were the pilots of the other early ones to say they didn't? Or were the entire run of 72 completed in fairly short order? Which wouldn't be unusual for Gundam, when the Federation possibly produced dozens of Gundams in a couple of months during the One Year War (depending on what you count). Plus, you say it would require very specific circumstances to kill the pilot yet leave the unit recoverable, but we know the PD Gundams are tough as old boots to pretty much any damage and pilots are killed while the unit itself is recoverable multiple times in the show. The Gusion pilot is killed, but the Gusion itself recovered, Mika is killed but the Barbatos recovered and mothballed as a museum piece to act as a warning to others and it's believable enough it could happen that McGillis thinks he's killed Gaelio without the Kimaris itself being particularly damaged. All in quite different circumstances. I find it very easy to imagine circumstances in which the pilot is killed, but the unit recoverable given that context. That said, I'm kind of surprised thinking about it now that none of the other Seven Stars besides the Bauduins showed off their units during the show or had them shown off in post show MSV. It's understandable why Carta Issue didn't have hers, since she wasn't around long enough to recognize she'd need something of that caliber, and you can kind of see how maybe McGillis didn't want to tie himself to the Fareed family one but it seems kind of weird Iok didn't get his at some point. Or that Rustal didn't give his to Julia to act as his champion or something. tsob fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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I think a big factor there is that without an AV system a Gundam isn't really going to be any better than the high-end machines they can get anyway. Yeah they have the special drives but the Gundam's basic purpose was to be built with AV in mind, which is why even McGillis gets himself an AV before stealing the Baal.
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tsob posted:That said, I'm kind of surprised thinking about it now that none of the other Seven Stars besides the Bauduins showed off their units during the show or had them shown off in post show MSV. It's understandable why Carta Issue didn't have hers, since she wasn't around long enough to recognize she'd need something of that caliber, and you can kind of see how maybe McGillis didn't want to tie himself to the Fareed family one but it seems kind of weird Iok didn't get his at some point. Or that Rustal didn't give his to Julia to act as his champion or something. IBO MSV has been remarkably unimpressive. Maybe if the phone game actually comes out they'll start doing more suits for it.
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ImpAtom posted:I think a big factor there is that without an AV system a Gundam isn't really going to be any better than the high-end machines they can get anyway. Yeah they have the special drives but the Gundam's basic purpose was to be built with AV in mind, which is why even McGillis gets himself an AV before stealing the Baal. Iok doesn't come across as someone wise enough to rationalize that, and the symbolism of it would seem enough for him. Plus, Gaelio already did it. Yeah, he failed (so far as most knew), but still, you'd think at least one more would do it. Gripweed posted:IBO MSV has been remarkably unimpressive. Maybe if the phone game actually comes out they'll start doing more suits for it. Wasn't that what they released yesterday? Or was that something else? tsob fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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ImpAtom posted:I think a big factor there is that without an AV system a Gundam isn't really going to be any better than the high-end machines they can get anyway. Yeah they have the special drives but the Gundam's basic purpose was to be built with AV in mind, which is why even McGillis gets himself an AV before stealing the Baal. Honestly, I'd say it's the other way around. Damned near every Mobile Suit is at least theoretically Alaya-Vijnana compatible (which is why Human Debris slave -soldiers became so enormously popular in S2), but twin drives are a unique and unparalleled advantage. Gundams are just straight-up faster, stronger, and tougher than any other machine even before you take control systems into account.
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Darth Walrus posted:Honestly, I'd say it's the other way around. Damned near every Mobile Suit is at least theoretically Alaya-Vijnana compatible (which is why Human Debris slave -soldiers became so enormously popular in S2), but twin drives are a unique and unparalleled advantage. Gundams are just straight-up faster, stronger, and tougher than any other machine even before you take control systems into account. I never got the impression the gap was *that* huge. We're shown plenty of non-twin units being shown as strong/durable/etc as Gundams. The major gap always comes from AV, not the Gundam itself. It isn't like 00 where the twin drives are basically loving magic. IBO's units have power gaps but it isn't divided into Gundam/NotGundam.
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ImpAtom posted:I never got the impression the gap was *that* huge. We're shown plenty of non-twin units being shown as strong/durable/etc as Gundams. The major gap always comes from AV, not the Gundam itself. It's not a hard and fast divide (the Ein and the Julia both managed to stand up to a Gundam as near-equals) but they're still a notable step above most grunts even without AV. That's why Gaelio got his Gundam out of the family vault in season 1. Edit: Also, the IBO phone game is official released in Japan. Just saw someone's pulls.
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ImpAtom posted:I never got the impression the gap was *that* huge. We're shown plenty of non-twin units being shown as strong/durable/etc as Gundams. The major gap always comes from AV, not the Gundam itself. It doesn't look that huge a gap because the safeties are on. Mikazuki vs the Hashmal with the gloves off moving faster than thought reflexively to dodge the tail and limbs is what sets a Gundam apart from a conventional MS's performance.
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