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JackBandit posted:I feel reasonably plugged into politics and I really don’t understand how jurisdiction works. Why is it up to any judge to just say how they feel about things? And is there some sort of time limit on how long they have to wait? Can they drag this out indefinitely by having one chudge take the baton with a bullshit ruling every 6 weeks? There was one particular judge in north Texas (can't remember if it's east or west) that was the go-to for chudly things like trying to kill the ACA. It is utter bullshit, and the cronyism of the judiciary was starkly laid out late in the Obama Presidency and on through Trump's. Appointment for life should end since it now means multiple decades in a time when societal change and evolution is vastly more rapid than the Enlightenment era this rules were initially drawn up in.
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I don't think this case has standing this is probably the chud judge who always gets smacked in appeals. The fact it looks like it was typed on a typewriter just reinforces that belief.
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Nov 11, 2022 02:24
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Scipiotik posted:I don't think this case has standing this is probably the chud judge who always gets smacked in appeals. The fact it looks like it was typed on a typewriter just reinforces that belief. its by two people angry that they didnt A) have pell grants or loans B) had FFEL loans that they didnt get consolidated and cant qualify. It also invalidates the entire Executive order which already is a legal can of worms because uh what about the money refunded???? literally its from the insane fucker and the order itself is a one page fuckup that will get held because he pushed it through with no standing defined or damages besides the two people angry because they didnt do anything
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Nov 11, 2022 02:27
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UCS Hellmaker posted:its by two people angry that they didnt A) have pell grants or loans B) had FFEL loans that they didnt get consolidated and cant qualify. It also invalidates the entire Executive order which already is a legal can of worms because uh what about the money refunded???? literally its from the insane fucker and the order itself is a one page fuckup that will get held because he pushed it through with no standing defined or damages besides the two people angry because they didnt do anything I mean tbf I get being angry about the FFEL thing because I think maybe my Navient poo poo could have been rolled into forgiveness (maybe? idk) but I didn't even hear about that being a thing until after the deadline passed. In fact, I'd heard prior to that about being careful about consolidation because it'd be possible for that to gently caress stuff up. No real point in trying to blow the whole thing up I guess though. But it is utter bullshit that there was some arbitrary deadline for rolling poo poo over into a forgivable format.
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Nov 11, 2022 02:44
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Scipiotik posted:I don't think this case has standing this is probably the chud judge who always gets smacked in appeals. The fact it looks like it was typed on a typewriter just reinforces that belief. No, this appears to be a different dishonorable gentleman. The one I was thinking of, and I'm pretty sure you're thinking of, is Reed O'Connor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_O%27Connor
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Nov 11, 2022 02:45
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CaptainSarcastic posted:No, this appears to be a different dishonorable gentleman. Cool, either way if he's typing it on a typewriter he's definitely insane. Federal courts aren't that backwards.
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Nov 11, 2022 02:47
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The problem is this is in the Fifth Circuit. The appeals court will uphold it and instead of a typewriter the opinion will be written on a poo poo-stained piece of toilet paper. It's going to end up in the Supreme Court.
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Nov 11, 2022 03:01
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Just my opinion up b but there shouldn’t be a threshold to getting it forgiven. It should be open to everyone. Doctorates or under. Isn’t that why it was rejected? Because the people who brought the lawsuit didn’t qualify for it?
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Nov 11, 2022 03:17
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Piggy Smalls posted:Just my opinion up b but there shouldn’t be a threshold to getting it forgiven. It should be open to everyone. Doctorates or under. Isn’t that why it was rejected? Because the people who brought the lawsuit didn’t qualify for it? Dentists make more than BA communications majors op
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Nov 11, 2022 03:24
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JackBandit posted:Why is it up to any judge to just say how they feel about things? https://www.npr.org/2022/11/10/1135940851/student-debt-relief-biden-blocked-texas-district-court quote:District Court Judge Mark Pittman, an appointee of former President Donald Trump based in Fort Worth, said the program usurped Congress' power to make laws. Edit: gently caress this piece of poo poo, too. quote:Rep. Virginia Foxx of North Carolina, the ranking Republican on the House education committee, celebrated it.
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Nov 11, 2022 05:12
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Smugworth posted:Dentists make more than BA communications majors op You likely owe less than a dentist does for his/her education. It would be a drop in the bucket for a doctorate degree but it would keep people from claiming it’s discriminatory.
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Nov 11, 2022 06:28
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Let's not have this thread devolve into arguing about the program. It's intended to be a help/information thread, so until something more develops just let it sit. I'm putting it on slow mode for the moment to help encourage that.
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Nov 11, 2022 07:54
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Has there been any talk of extending the moratorium on payments?
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Nov 11, 2022 13:13
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rifles posted:Has there been any talk of extending the moratorium on payments? No, but they have closed the application: https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1591084998513365000 I think it would be crazy for them to not extend the moratorium, but this is the Democrat Party we're talking about.
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Nov 11, 2022 16:26
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so is this dead then? also the title should probablty be changed imo
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Nov 11, 2022 16:34
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Why did this specific federal judge cause them to pause it when the Nebraska case has already effectively stalled it for the same reason? Does the Texan judge somehow pose more of a threat?
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Nov 11, 2022 18:00
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No, he doesn't at all judge just wanted to completely stop every part of the program.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:03
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I hope that people who were able to reconsolidate in time for forgiveness aren’t affected by higher interest rates as this delay is dealt with
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Nov 11, 2022 19:33
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naem posted:I hope that people who were able to reconsolidate in time for forgiveness aren’t affected by higher interest rates as this delay is dealt with I hope that the people who are blocking forgiveness get testicular cancer, then run over by a bus that's inexplicably coated in lemon juice.
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Nov 11, 2022 19:35
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How long is it going to be before we have a definitive answer that this is or isn’t happening?
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Nov 11, 2022 19:45
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B B posted:No, but they have closed the application: Agreed. They should extend the moratorium for a 100 years to give the finger to the shitlords who are against debt relief.
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they should have just cancelled the entirety of the outstanding loans. why go with some half hearted poo poo when you know repubs are going to fight tooth and nail to stop it no matter what the dollar figure is. might as well go big for maximum support of the plebeians e: it also may be worth changing the thread title so american goons aren't falsely led into believing that student loan debt forgiveness began in october 2022 (or perhaps will begin at all?) hot cocoa on the couch fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Nov 11, 2022 19:48
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Regardless of whether the chuds back up the process about loan forgiveness, their derail isn't also attacking the new IDR plan coming, right?
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Nov 11, 2022 19:54
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:e: it also may be worth changing the thread title so american goons aren't falsely led into believing that student loan debt forgiveness began in october 2022 (or perhaps will begin at all?) nom epique posted:*Looks at calendar* heartbreaking e: not implying you deserve a probe for pointing out the obvious, just referencing the onion "heartbreaking: worst person you know made a great point" headline because it turns out the hater called it right this time. don't want to poo poo up the thread with too many jokes so i'll leave it alone after this. v Bad Purchase fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Bad Purchase posted:heartbreaking shoot, didn't realize Noticing was against the law itt. apoliogies to any mods
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Not only am I really pissed about this but I’m also Covid positive as of this morning so that double sucks. I need a win  e: does Nebraska have an “expiration date” of how long it can stay hanging in 8th circuit? Can it be expedited or referred to SCOTUS?
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Nov 11, 2022 21:14
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You know, if we just handed Texas over to Mexico we could probably make Puerto Rico a state and not have to change the flag. I don't know what kind of other stuff we'd have to throw in for Mexico to want it though.
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Nov 11, 2022 21:50
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At this point let Texas secede and let the cartels figure out the rest
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Nov 11, 2022 23:12
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So for now just expect to be paying our student loans back come January 2023? That is what I am working off of currently, and am trying to base my monthly spending around that assumption.
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Nov 11, 2022 23:21
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whats this talk about consolidation? I have a handful of loans out there; i'm paying 2 different companies. was i supposed to have consolidated them into one lump sum? my payments are based on total amt owed, so it never crossed my mind that id need to something extra. also the application didnt mention anything at the time.
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Nov 11, 2022 23:32
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You may need to consolidate to enter income driven repayment plans and for payments to qualify for pslf. It doesn’t have anything to do with the 10/20k loan forgiveness asfaik
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Nov 11, 2022 23:58
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Couldn't ineligible loans have been consolidated under a qualifying loan type prior to a certain date?
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titties posted:Couldn't ineligible loans have been consolidated under a qualifying loan type prior to a certain date? Not unless Bank of America. (Not actually the bank of America) Wants to get paid
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Effective-Disorder posted:You know, if we just handed Texas over to Mexico we could probably make Puerto Rico a state and not have to change the flag. mexico and puerto rico reading this, looking at each other, then looking at the camera and shaking their head no while grimacing
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Nov 12, 2022 03:38
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The Eighth Circuit has ruled that the six states in the Nebraska case have standing and the case will move forward. The Fifth Circuit will likely rule the same in their case. The appeals process will last well past January, at which point the new term of Congress will start and the Republicans will be able to file a lawsuit from the House. It's pretty much over.
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Nov 14, 2022 20:02
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 Does this affect the other aspects of the plan (caps on repayment, interest rates, etc.)?
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SchrodingersCat posted:The Eighth Circuit has ruled that the six states in the Nebraska case have standing and the case will move forward. The Fifth Circuit will likely rule the same in their case. The appeals process will last well past January, at which point the new term of Congress will start and the Republicans will be able to file a lawsuit from the House. lol seriosuly. is a house suit really a death sentence? i dunno how this poo poo works in america. crazy if it is. i thought over the past 100 years or w/e executive powers have been expandedf to such a degree that the pres could just ram this poo poo through. why not done
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:lol seriosuly. is a house suit really a death sentence? i dunno how this poo poo works in america. crazy if it is. i thought over the past 100 years or w/e executive powers have been expandedf to such a degree that the pres could just ram this poo poo through. why not done The executive powers were only expanded for when the president wants to give stuff to rich people or kill brown people with drones.
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SchrodingersCat posted:The Eighth Circuit has ruled that the six states in the Nebraska case have standing and the case will move forward. The Fifth Circuit will likely rule the same in their case. The appeals process will last well past January, at which point the new term of Congress will start and the Republicans will be able to file a lawsuit from the House. https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1592234303173591040?s=20&t=NkkJgUX8zMWh62SIY_R6hQ
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