bbchops posted:

Space doner.

onesixtwo posted:

Ya know this is something that baffled me when I was (a younger, more idiot) on the Camelot Unchained forums around the time the kickstarter ended. There was of course the "we need additional funding" push being made, and most were outraged at the suggestion that some stupid vanity titles or rewards could be given to anyone who *also* pledged during post-Kickstarter phase.

The general attitude of "Founders" were that the "Backers" (people who pledged post-kickstarter) group should be given second class citizen status. Absolutely no sharing of rewards that the Founders had, they missed their boat. Even for the stupid little non-important cosmetic things or titles they theorycrafted, those HAD to be exclusive to the Founders.

People really get hung up on being FIRST and having some kind of status symbol to float, and missing that initial 30-day window to fund meant you were absolutely not a true-believer.

TBH I completely stopped going to those forums after the topic very strongly steered into the 'gently caress you got mine' voices being loudest. I gave up on trying to assume the community might be half okay-ish, and now the game is completely dead in the water because it was another MMO Kickstarter scam like Star Citizen, so those Founders really did get their wish.

Blackstone posted:

Each time I had a Döner at four in the morning I woke up with a headache and nausea, so I have to agree with the cat person

Fidelitious posted:

This is either racist, classist, or both.

Mellow_ posted:

Definitely racist. I've never met anyone that complains about kebab like this unless they're racist as poo poo.

The gently caress kind of meat eater could resist a giant skewer that's holding a giant cylinder of slow roasted marinaded meat?

Jonny Shiloh posted:

Twerk's maybe up in arms about something - I don't want to infect my YouTube recommendations/history with Store Citizer contagion so I've not watched it

Fidelitious posted:

This is either racist, classist, or both.
Yeah, it's a meat mix, like what is used in thousands of dishes all over the world. It implies nothing about quality or safety.

Other than that, he's just describing food safety stuff (described here https://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/consumer/eating-out/doner-kebabs) that is universal.

Imagine cooking being dependent on the person doing the cooking. What a dumb loving thing to say.

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Yes keep both, they have completely different roles and both will increase in price in the next few months.

Hull C: large capacity hauler incapable of landing planetside while fully loaded, minimal weapons.

Banu Merchantman: very long range floating bazaar and home caravan with fighter bay and huge 'F-off' canon.

The Banu Merchantman can fly along with the Hull C as escort, and the Hull C can restock the Banu Merchantman which can land planeside to sell it's wares.

The first contact between the Banu and humans is an interesting story. A criminal Banu was on the run from the Banu Protectorate and he strayed (alone) into a system where humans were. The Earthling ship started firing upon the Banu Merchantman but it didn't fire back, didn't launch it's Defender and didn't try to run away - it just waited for the Earthling to give up and then made a radio call. That tells you a lot about the confidence they had in their Banu Merchantman.

There is an old apocryphal Indian camp fire story - The Mouse and the Elephant - it teaches children about karma.

One day a mouse was scurrying through the underbrush and he heard a female elephant roaring in pain. He approached the elephant and asked what was the trouble. The elephant pointed with it's trunk to a thorn in it's foot. The mouse hopped onto the elephants foot and using it's teeth pulled out the thorn.

The elephant was very grateful and said if the mouse ever needed anything he should just ask. The mouse replied - "Well there is one thing, I haven't had sex for months can I have sex with you?" The female elephant couldn't believe what she was hearing but she said.. sure.. OK if you want to. So the mouse ran to the back of the elephant and got busy.

The female elephant was laughing so hard she was shaking and had to lean against a tree, big coconuts began to fall on her head and she cried out in pain - whereupon the mouse yelled "Yeah! Suffer baby... Suffer!"

This reminds me of the Banu / Human first contact story.

Bofast posted:

Like one of those flight deck guys signaling that it's time to take off?

Scruffpuff posted:

Back in the day WWII online used to talk about all their fidelitious projectile physics. People would get very excited to know that before their screen suddenly cut to black, the projectile that killed them bounced around inside the tank in exactly such a way that it happened to go through their head. Very exciting to know that, even though it's all 100% invisible to the player and a sudden unavoidable instant death is the actual gameplay result regardless.

A practical person might wonder, if the end result of physics calculations is literally completely invisible and indistinguishable from a die roll, why calculate the physics at all and waste all those cycles?

A thoughtful person might think that, in the end, one of the horrors of war is that a person's life or death is frequently decided quickly and unfairly by an unlucky set of events that, in the end, might as well have been a roll of the dice.

A citizen thinks, no shortcuts, I can imagine literally anything is happening to make this incredibly poo poo game actually amazing.

I'm not sure what point I'm making here, but I feel there's something to this mentality. Almost a cognitive misfire.

Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:

Posting a bit from the past here, but this is a top-quality post. When they were first designing modern board wargames the dice roll was intended to simulate the horrible randomness of war. In that no matter how much you plan, how much you adapt, how hard you try, some totally unaccountable factor will result in a bullet to the brain for the soldiers, and/or a battle lost by the officers.

In fact when government groups like the RAND Corporation were creating wargames to be used by actual practitioners of war, they independently created something that closely matched the combat results tables that were being added to the earliest board wargames. Because the only thing you can guarantee will happen in a battle is the most random poo poo you can imagine.

Popete posted:

What update are they excited about? There isn't one coming until next year.

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Exactly. The tools had to be made, there's always a first time.

Also, they only need to release one system for testing, there is no need to release other star system 'spoilers' just for the sake of people going around and gawping.

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Perhaps because you view it as a 'break through' rather than just planned hard work toward a goal. In order to make anything you have to make the tools to make that thing first. If you want to make a billion sausages, you start by building one sausage making factory which needs iron ore mining, an iron smelting works, a metal tool making foundry, a brick works, a cement making factory, someone has to discover electricity and make electrically driven motors etc.

If you want to build nothing but a tree house, you might have less requirements.

The Titanic posted:

Apex star citizen is arguing about what space food should be allowed in the deep space future when cig regularly puts out future space food like "pizza" and "hot dogs".

Bargearse posted:

If anything, future space food would most likely include things like burritos and kebabs, things that can be prepared and eaten in zero gravity without utensils. Apparently the International Space Station uses a lot of tortillas for that same reason.

And right there I’ve put more thought into it than CIG ever did.

Mellow_ posted:

tfw your burrito breaks open when you bite it and there is now rice beans and beef floating around your cockpit

Kesper North posted:

IIRC this was part of why the Feds freaked out so hard on Steve Jackson Games back in the day.

CommissarMega posted:

Is there any more you've got on this? Or at least some search terms I ought to Google?

FishMcCool posted:

"Too large of a universe for you" = 1 system.

JugbandDude posted:

A lot of FUD happening in this thread… it’s PROMOTION people, not sale.

Bargearse posted:

If anything, future space food would most likely include things like burritos and kebabs, things that can be prepared and eaten in zero gravity without utensils. Apparently the International Space Station uses a lot of tortillas for that same reason.

And right there I’ve put more thought into it than CIG ever did.

4th Stimpire Queen posted:

No one could have predicted the demand and interest this game would garner

hundreds of millions

Mellow_ posted:

Definitely racist. I've never met anyone that complains about kebab like this unless they're racist as poo poo.

The gently caress kind of meat eater could resist a giant skewer that's holding a giant cylinder of slow roasted marinaded meat?

SQ42 Release Date posted:

Purely on a speculative basis... when do you guys think this game is going to relase? I made a mini poll with the possible outcomes I see but feel free to say whatever scenario you guys think in the comments.

More SQ42 progress/snipits shown mid-2022 -- Marketing campaign mid-late 2022 -- Release early-mid 2023: :sunglasses:
More SQ42 progress/snipits shown late-2022 -- Marketing campaign early-mid 2023 -- Release late 2023-early 2024: :slightly_frowning_face:
More SQ42 progress/snipits shown sometime in 2023 -- Marketing campaign late 2023 - early 2024 -- Release late 2024 with cyberpunk2077-style delays: :disappointed:
Later than 2024 for anything: :neutral_face:
Yes: :+1:

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October 2022. On the 10th anniversary of the kickstarter.

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I guess you haven't been reading my detailed breakdown of the Progress Tracker.

A shortened summary. After a heavy work schedule for many teams on chapters for Squadron 42 last year the only remaining work on any chapter for Squadron 42 after December 31st was for one team - The SQ42 Art team (8 guys) - on chapters 5, 26 and 27 out to end of April. As of the February 2nd update they reduced the SQ42A team to only chapter 27 out to end of March (they are also working on some exclusive SQ42 deliverables such as the Cydnus Mining Droid to end of March).

After the planning meetings in January what extra work was allocated to chapters of Squadron 42? It was one team, 5 guys who are animators, the Gameplay Story Team (GPS). Since the Progress Tracker was updated on February the 2nd two of the extra Chapters for the GPS team were already completed at end of January. A further two complete at end of February and 2 more complete March 15th, all work finally to complete March 31st for both Squadron 42 Art and GPS teams.

To make that clear, out of all the hundreds of people at F42UK and F42DE a maximum of 13 people are still working on chapters of Squadron 42 to end of March. The main bulk of the remaining work on any Squadron 42 deliverables are for the Actor Feature Team (the ones who told us they were switching focus from the PU to Squadron 42 next year, who are part of the 5 team Core Gameplay Pillar. They are at the end of the pipeline, they 'polish and improve', which is why we saw Richard Tyrer a lot on ISC and SC Live as those features they were working on for the PU were ready for prime time.

The story of Squadron 42 is that we join the UEEN as a raw recruit and follow through a career that involves peace keeping, law enforcement and finally a start of the Vanduul war. Chris Roberts said mid last year he was moving to the UK to close out Squadron 42. The final week in May is Invictus Launch Week, what is that? It is the week in-lore that the UEE military have their recruitment drives. Jared Huckaby has twice now told us he is moving to the UK - just in time for the run up to ILW. What is it that Jared Huckaby does?

My estimation is that CIG are in the beta phase of Squadron 42 (why else do they have over 20 artists allocated to 'Bug Fixing + Tech Debt on the Progress Tracker - what can they do except play test?). You can see on the Progress Tracker that there is no work planned for any upstream teams (the builders): LD1, LD2 and LD3 (level designers), for example, finished work on any Squadron 42 deliverable in December and they have no work planned this year except Bug Fixing + Tech Debt and Miscellaneous Support.

The statement by the Community Team about the Progress Tracker and Roadmap update included some information that has gone largely ignored (for bloody obvious reasons!) - they say they will update the Tracker with downstream team's work 'at a later date'. Does anyone have the impression they are running out the clock for some reason? Do they know that focus is going to switch suddenly in the next couple of months or so? If you were a company knowing you had committed to a day by day breakdown of what work you had planned, and you knew you were in the end phase but couldn't give an exact estimate of how long that Beta test phase would last - what would you do? Would you jangle some keys 'Over here!' with vague promises as well while pulling everybody you could into a crunch period? There are good reasons for not giving spoilers, there very good reasons for not giving exact release dates too early.

More and more the events and information lead me to think they PLAN FOR hype to start at Invictus Launch Week and continue until a Squadron 42 Episode One release on the 10th anniversary of the Kickstarter in October. I wish that it looked possible for an ILW launch of Squadron 42 but that would be very optimistic in my view, we may - just may - get a playable demo. The PU is being put on hold in favour of Squadron 42, the main backend tech still needed for Squadron 42 is the Gen12 Renderer and that just happens to be the focus of CIG's output lately. It is on the Progress Tracker and there is no reason to think it is not progressing as they say it is.

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I still see no reason to change my original view stated many times. Squadron 42 Chapter One release in October this year on the 10th anniversary of the crowdfunding launch. Hype probably begins at Invictus Launch week (last week in May) and ramps up over summer/autumn.

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What should Cloud Imperium Games do on their 10th Anniversary of the Kickstarter? Release the frikking Squadron 42 Episode One game!

Anyone who frequents the forums at RSI knows my view... The Roadmap is full of hints suggesting that Squadron 42 Episode One is feature complete and they have been in the bug fixing, internal testing phase since last December at least. I hope, and it is a hope, that they plan some form of Squadron 42 release on the 10th Anniversary of the kickstarter campaign.

Let's consider:
Sandi Roberts has never agreed to a community interview before now, and who does she interview with after all these years - the former SC Leaks guy. Not BoredGamer, not SpaceTomato, nor SuperMacBros or Morphologis, not Montoya. Not even BatGirl who is putting her and her daughter up for a while. Why? It isn't necessary for funding, it isn't necessary for social media presence which had ballooned recently. Is this bridge building? what for?
There are no upstream teams working on any Squadron 42 deliverable according to the Progress Tracker. 40+ teams working on 'bug fixing and tech debt'.
There have been no new deliverables added for Squadron 42 Episode One (there are those labelled Squadron 42 and Star Citizen) since 2021.
Chris Roberts said in Q3 last year he was moving to the UK to 'Finish out Squadron 42' - Chris is a millionaire with a mansion in LA, yet Sandi admits she is staying with her daughter in the USA to continue to assists/monitor her daughters acting profession in a house with with a former Youtuber of Star Citizen - and her youngest daughter is staying in LA.
Jared Huckaby announced last year he is moving to the UK on a 5 year work visa, even though he has previously stated that the only food he would eat in the UK is the food he brought in his bag form the USA. He's 'very close' to the guys in the LA office and his parents.

These are not speculation, or theory-crafting, these are facts you can go and verify for yourselves. The conclusions you draw are up to you.

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I am still of the opinion that I was late last year, I've seen nothing to change my mind. I think they plan to release Squadron 42 Episode One by the end of the year as near as possible to it's 10th anniversary of the kickstarter, otherwise there really isn't any need to go completely silent on the subject is there?

4th Stimpire Queen posted:

Morning everyone, please enjoy your coffee with the shill of the day explaining why CIG is selling ships and why any issues with lies or scope creep is your problem.

Also The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Star Citizen: maybe SC is too large of a universe for you honestly.

Mirificus posted:

Mirificus posted:

otherwise there really isn't any need to go completely silent on the subject is there?

Mirificus posted:

The Titanic posted:

It looks like you guys haven't been reading my blog posts for every minute. Clearly you missed the 11/15 12:03p book and the follow up 1:12p missive.

Let me fix that for you by rewriting them for millions of words so you can be educated properly about my critical knowledge of CIGs development strategy, since I know all of it.