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Highlight of the season: https://twitter.com/everydaysens/status/1592354909428781056?s=46&t=UiKEZ-e_WX5By9BvnAlVDw Nikita Zaitsev’s dad thinks that a Bruce Garrioch parody account is the real Bruce, calls him a fat loser. Nikita Zaitsev himself slides into that account’s DMs to challenge him to a fistfight.
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T-Bone posted:The Athletic did something for 2005-2016. That framing is incredibly kind to the Leafs because it captures the 2006 draft with Kulemin, Reimer and Stalberg. Since then they have a few roster players from past the first round but in cases like Verhaeghe, Hayes and Durzi they were all traded and developed elsewhere.
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Nov 15, 2022 04:47
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Hand Knit posted:That framing is incredibly kind to the Leafs because it captures the 2006 draft with Kulemin, Reimer and Stalberg. Since then they have a few roster players from past the first round but in cases like Verhaeghe, Hayes and Durzi they were all traded and developed elsewhere. it's one year off in the other direction for the Rangers. 2004 we had Dubinsky/Callahan in the middle rounds. woulda been #1 with those probably.
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Nov 15, 2022 05:19
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Later round picks from the last 3 or 4 drafts are just entering the league right now and almost all the GMs from before that have been fired so it's anyone's guess who's good at it now.
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Spring Break My Heart posted:Later round picks from the last 3 or 4 drafts are just entering the league right now and almost all the GMs from before that have been fired so it's anyone's guess who's good at it now. Yeah, pretty much any team could occupy any of the top 31 spots at this point. 32. Oilers
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Nov 15, 2022 05:40
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Nov 15, 2022 06:26
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I knew about Lou trying to be Steinbrenner and making all his players shave their faces, but learned today during the broadcast that he makes them cut their hair too when Gord Miller made a comment about Romanov having to cut off his locks What an absolute fuckin dinosaur, the sooner he’s gone (replaced by his son lol) the better
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Nov 15, 2022 07:18
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bub spank posted:Highlight of the season: The real highlight is when the sens use this as justification for terminating the last year of his contract grats sens fans
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Powershift posted:Yeah, pretty much any team could occupy any of the top 31 spots at this point. Stuart Skinner!!!
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Nov 15, 2022 13:41
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Hand Knit posted:That framing is incredibly kind to the Leafs because it captures the 2006 draft with Kulemin, Reimer and Stalberg. Since then they have a few roster players from past the first round but in cases like Verhaeghe, Hayes and Durzi they were all traded and developed elsewhere. Durzi wouldn't have counted since it ends 2016. Dermott/Johnsson/Engvall would be the last Leafs on the board.
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Nov 15, 2022 16:01
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Interesting to see so many good young tiny men coming in on defense. It's not a big deal on F anymore but teams are definitely getting more comfortable with it on D (especially with everyone seeing the success of Makar). https://twitter.com/JamesGarrison27/status/1586150173163413504 https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/1592242585942528000 https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/1581041433888575488 https://twitter.com/CBJcenter/status/1583481746393550848
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Hand Knit posted:That framing is incredibly kind to the Leafs because it captures the 2006 draft with Kulemin, Reimer and Stalberg. Since then they have a few roster players from past the first round but in cases like Verhaeghe, Hayes and Durzi they were all traded and developed elsewhere. I think the real question is not "over a period of time can you hit on some late round dudes" - that's interesting, and it probably helps drive team success, but it doesn't really tell you a ton about the organization. It's probably more interesting if you did something like look at value provided and consistency over rolling X year periods - if you can consistently get value from late round picks then that shows something. You could also maybe run it by GM and normalize by number of late round picks and or time period somehow.
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Matt Murray is listed as the expected starter for tonight. pseudodragon posted:Durzi wouldn't have counted since it ends 2016. Dermott/Johnsson/Engvall would be the last Leafs on the board. Murderer’s row for sure.
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Clever of the Leafs to realize the power former Penguins have against the Pens. e: I think this is his first start in Pittsburgh since being traded. That seems bizarre but I guess he's been hurt/bad since then and has missed his chance until now. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 16:24
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I know players randomly fall apart all the time but Murray's decline is still weird to me. He was dominant in the AHL, and very good in the NHL for his first two seasons, and then it all went off the rails. But he looked like he was tracking to be if not elite then at least a very good NHL goalie for a long time. Goaltending is voodoo like that though. Murray is like a modern day Jim Carey. Meteoric rise followed by a precipitous fall.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Everyone on the team is going high glove Kapanen will miss
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The Dirty Burger posted:I knew about Lou trying to be Steinbrenner and making all his players shave their faces, but learned today during the broadcast that he makes them cut their hair too when Gord Miller made a comment about Romanov having to cut off his locks "Whaddaya want your hockey playahs to look like out theah? A buncha fuckin HOCKEY PLAYAHS or somethin??" This is also something I disagree with Lou on very strongly. If I were GM, I would mandate that every player on my roster grow their hair out and sport a full beard. To paraphrase the ancient Spartan philosopher Lycurgus, long hair makes a handsome man that much more comely and an ugly one that much more terrifying.
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Not Important posted:"Whaddaya want your hockey playahs to look like out theah? A buncha fuckin HOCKEY PLAYAHS or somethin??" I too disagree with Lou, but fall on the side of "it's not your loving head, bald man, so why do you get an opinion of what it looks like". If he doesn't want to grow out his hair, he doesn't have to now and never did. Connecting hair style with other things is straight trash. I don't care how well respected you are, it's not the army. E: I'm pretty sure he'd have fans in Minnesota throwing things at him for messing with the team having any hockey hair.
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Imagine if Lou were still GM in Toronto? Then we’d never see the Iafrate finally making a comeback And I assume they would have even more 35+ year olds on the roster
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Zaitsev would never have been traded and would be melting down at Steve Persimmons (parody) instead of Bruce Garricock.
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Ginette Reno posted:I know players randomly fall apart all the time but Murray's decline is still weird to me. He was dominant in the AHL, and very good in the NHL for his first two seasons, and then it all went off the rails. But he looked like he was tracking to be if not elite then at least a very good NHL goalie for a long time. He seemed to go downhill very fast after his father died. I wonder if it is a mental thing from that. Or all the injuries. Maybe both.
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Mage_Boy posted:He seemed to go downhill very fast after his father died. I wonder if it is a mental thing from that. Or all the injuries. Maybe both. it also felt like once the book was out on how to break him, everyone was picking the corner like they're Alex loving Kovalev and it seems like the sort of thing a good goalie coach could adjust for but the pens have never been particularly known for those
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:it also felt like once the book was out on how to break him, everyone was picking the corner like they're Alex loving Kovalev I mean yeah the book on him is high glove but isn't that the book on every NHL goalie? They all take away the bottom of the ice. You always want to elevate the puck if you can. It's no secret. That said, yeah Murray's glove is real bad. Maybe it's to such an extent that shooters have abused him because of it.
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Auston Matthews' hairline looks like if Cousin It was walking through a portal that got closed halfway through.
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Aphrodite posted:Auston Matthews' hairline looks like if Cousin It was walking through a portal that got closed halfway through. such disrespect to a man paying homage to the immortal Master Pain 
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eXXon posted:Zaitsev would never have been traded and would be melting down at Steve Persimmons (parody) instead of Bruce Garricock. An underrated part of that story is that Zaitsevs dad clearly thinks it’s the real Garrioch and repeatedly refers to him as a fat gently caress
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:such disrespect to a man paying homage to the immortal Master Pain "Beware the song about making dreams come true! He scores on you while he plays it!" *breaks down in a coughing fit*
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Concussions and various injuries have slowed him down a little bit and I think he has a shoulder and wrist injury on that glove side which could have hurt his form. The other thing that really seems to have messed with Murray is the pad and jersey changes. Murray is a really really lanky. He is listed at 6'4" and 178lbs. There isn't a lot of meat on that frame which Murray used to be able to cover up with gigantic shoulder pads and he used to have an insanely baggy jersey that managed to catch pucks. I don't believe he is allowed to wear those anymore so there are extra holes in his game that he has to try and cover up which makes the other weaknesses worse. I could also believe his heart really isn't it anymore, but carrying on through the rest of the contract should see him set for life.
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Lol all 3 of the highlighted players for the Oilers are guys (specifically defenseman) they gave up on early in their careers Oh those Oilers
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Starsfan posted:Lol all 3 of the highlighted players for the Oilers are guys (specifically defenseman) they gave up on early in their careers There's a bunch of names that the drafting team either gave up on or even never signed, but the bulk of the list did at least play for the team at least a little. Putting Jared Spurgeon under the Islanders is a bit of a laugh, they never did anything with him, he played 5 years in Spokane (WHL), and he was a training camp pickup for Minnesota. At least they were playing Devon Toews before trading him cheaply (stupidly) to Colorado.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Concussions and various injuries have slowed him down a little bit and I think he has a shoulder and wrist injury on that glove side which could have hurt his form. The other thing that really seems to have messed with Murray is the pad and jersey changes. Murray is a really really lanky. He is listed at 6'4" and 178lbs. There isn't a lot of meat on that frame which Murray used to be able to cover up with gigantic shoulder pads and he used to have an insanely baggy jersey that managed to catch pucks. I don't believe he is allowed to wear those anymore so there are extra holes in his game that he has to try and cover up which makes the other weaknesses worse. I’m not saying goalies have to be jacked freaks, but you can clearly see the correlation between having so little muscle/Kevin Durant legs and constantly being on the IR
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Starsfan posted:Lol all 3 of the highlighted players for the Oilers are guys (specifically defenseman) they gave up on early in their careers Oilers didn't give up on Marino, he refused to sign with them. Also I'm pretty sure the only other players that could even make the list are Caleb Jones and Jujhar Khaira lmao
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T-Bone posted:Interesting to see so many good young tiny men coming in on defense. It's not a big deal on F anymore but teams are definitely getting more comfortable with it on D (especially with everyone seeing the success of Makar). Makar seems bigger than 5'11 187 lbs, I could have sworn he was like 6'1, I didn't know he and Fox are basically the same size I still think Fox is a fascinating player and unique in a different way than Makar but I'm incredibly biased as well. You'd think that a guy who's not real big and not a supremely skilled skater wouldn't have the success he does, but I think his edgework and first couple of steps are far far better than people think at first glance, his hands are fantastic but again it's all that the game seems to go slower for him and he does the unexpected and keeps opposing players guessing so well
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So it has been a bit now, is "desperate" just a Vegas media catch-all term or is it widely used elsewhere in the world of hockey? I seriously never heard the term as much as I have since following VGK and it is treated as a magic word that explains everything which is annoying.
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Starsfan posted:Lol all 3 of the highlighted players for the Oilers are guys (specifically defenseman) they gave up on early in their careers 
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Levitate posted:I still think Fox is a fascinating player and unique in a different way than Makar but I'm incredibly biased as well. You'd think that a guy who's not real big and not a supremely skilled skater wouldn't have the success he does, but I think his edgework and first couple of steps are far far better than people think at first glance, his hands are fantastic but again it's all that the game seems to go slower for him and he does the unexpected and keeps opposing players guessing so well His hockey sense is like S+++ tier. Possibly the best in the league. But yeah all of these guys are even smaller than Makar, will be interesting to see how they shake out over the coming years. Albino Squirrel posted:Don't need to draft well outside the first round as long as you keep getting #1 overall picks or you could do both and lead the league in expected GF/GA  (don't quote this when wheels fall off)
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