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Arquinsiel posted:Those last dudes have a weirdly loose grip on their weapons I will say exactly one good thing about GB hands: you don't have to drill them
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TG Secret Santa 2022 is up! I think there's probably lots of historical minis/terrain options within the $40 recommended gift price, so I'd love to see some of y'all participate if you can!
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StashAugustine posted:Gripping Beast makes a line in metals Thank you! I don't know why I didn't look at GB itself. It really does seem to mostly be a little bit of saxon/norman, just with more mustaches and different haircuts. I'm surprised there's not more material out there, but I wonder if it's a language thing, since most sources in English are likely more interested in the Viking invasion of England rather than whatever was happening on the continent. Maybe I should try looking at sources in French. But this is very fun, I get the appeal. Not many hobbies have you asking "but what really is a Frank, on a spiritual level"
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Placentaur posted:Not many hobbies have you asking "but what really is a Frank, on a spiritual level"
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Slyphic posted:Battle of Phillora, IndoPak War 65' using Seven Days to the River Rhine The gently caress are these grogs doing, isn't Seven Days already a light ruleset? I can understand wanting to houserule FFoT3, but this is just weird. ...and seeing how the two Moderns games were nothing but tanks, clearly these people want to be playing TY, but are too prideful for that :v
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Southern Heel posted:Despite the allure, I don't really think I've succeeded much at all with historical wargaming at all! My various efforts are chronicled in this thread, but to summarise: the only games I've managed were in 6mm - DBA Romans/Celts and 6mm Chain of Command based up as 15mm. Our first Lasalle games were a tad smaller than the "small" army size suggested in the scenarios. I think if you have maybe 6-8 battalions per side, set up into 2-3 brigades, you can start to get a feel for the game. If you worry about the size of your table, I based my 6mm lasalle troops on the old school WRG style (40mm wide instead of 60mm). It looks less impressive but then you're looking at painting two thirds of the minis of the larger basing style, and you can also get away with a significantly smaller table. These 6mm Baccus British were painted for Lasalle 1 many years ago. And those skirmisher bases in front of each battalion are streamlined away in the standard Lasalle 2 rules: 
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Historical wargaming is something you do theoretically, whereas practically you’re filling a display case with lovingly painted figures for you to stare at
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Thank you liljonas, two ranks of eight on 40mm bases for 6mm it is, then.Endman posted:Historical wargaming is something you do theoretically, whereas practically you’re filling a display case with lovingly painted figures for you to stare at Well yes, I keep thinking this when I consider 3mm vs 6mm vs 15mm vs 28mm. I've decided the only way I'm going to know if 3mm is for me is to try it, so I've ordered 40mm and 60mm bases, and a smattering of 3mm Austrians from Oddzial Osmy via Magister Militarum. I went with Austrians since bright and flamboyant seems to be the name of the game when it comes to painting! For some reason MM supply everything in strips of 15x - so I have enough guns for a division, but just enough infantry for a single regiment! Southern Heel fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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JcDent posted:The gently caress are these grogs doing, isn't Seven Days already a light ruleset? I can understand wanting to houserule FFoT3, but this is just weird. I say that, there was apparently a game of Rommel I entirely missed (saw photos of it posted later) that looked like the game I was hoping to sign up for.  Next year, when I set my alarm for the correct day and actually sign up early, I've got that guys name on a list to sign up for whatever he's running.
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Meanwhile my turn to ask modeling question: What's that bracket on the hauberk for? GB Norman knights
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StashAugustine posted:What's that bracket on the hauberk for? GB Norman knights On his chest? That's one of those "dunno" questions. It comes from the Bayeux Tapestry, a near-contemporary cartoon re-telling of the Norman Conquest:  You can see that the Norman knights have them, but we're not 100% sure what it was. Maybe it was a reenforcement to protect their chest, or maybe a flap to make it easier to put on the armor, there's no certain answer.
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Slyphic posted:After each microarmor game I played, because they ended so quickly, I wandered around and spectated a couple other similar games going on, and the whole m-con treadhead culture seems to love billions of tanks and gently caress infantry. There were two other FFT3 games going on and they both looked a hell of a lot like the ones I played, with one having what had to be 200+ tanks on the table, and like 50 of them in a flying wedge formation. Which is just completely opposite what I want out of those games, that I think there may be an insurmountable difference of taste at play. Even the one micro-a game I played last year was the same.
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Cessna posted:On his chest? That's one of those "dunno" questions. It comes from the Bayeux Tapestry, a near-contemporary cartoon re-telling of the Norman Conquest: The best explanation I’ve seen is that it’s the piece that covers the face up to the nose when it’s folded down for comfort, but as far as I know there’s as much evidence for that as for anything
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I painted up my Hungarian army.      It's a mix of Warlord and Great Escape Game minis.
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Those look great!
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Nov 16, 2022 17:28
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Is there a place to show off scale models we've painted? I just did a 1:35 M41 Walker Bulldog as my first kit in 20 years, but it's not tied to any historicals game per se. A very nice prop for the upcoming PATROL 2? IDK.
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Here ya go. But also here is fine too.
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Am I correct in thinking that DBN is a reasonable first Napoleonics game in terms of base-count at around 10-15 per army. It seems that Blucher is more like 15-20, and divisional-level games like Lasalle or Shako are more like 30-40.
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Absolutely. It's like 12 bases at most you'll need and the game can be played on a 2x2' board.
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Slyphic posted:After each microarmor game I played, because they ended so quickly, I wandered around and spectated a couple other similar games going on, and the whole m-con treadhead culture seems to love billions of tanks and gently caress infantry. There were two other FFT3 games going on and they both looked a hell of a lot like the ones I played, with one having what had to be 200+ tanks on the table, and like 50 of them in a flying wedge formation. Which is just completely opposite what I want out of those games, that I think there may be an insurmountable difference of taste at play. Even the one micro-a game I played last year was the same. Closeted TY players, the only likely reason they play what they play is hating 15mm or something.
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Burning wrecks are cool. It's just not the same with infantry, people get weird when you put down a red tiddlywink and say it's blood.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Burning wrecks are cool. It's just not the same with infantry, people get weird when you put down a red tiddlywink and say it's blood. You could print a load of casualties and sprinkle them down with each failed offensive. have an honour roll of the dead to read off to your opponent every time the kill one of your guys. Drive home the horrors of war. Post game cleanup would be a bitch though!
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Grey Hunter posted:You could print a load of casualties and sprinkle them down with each failed offensive. have an honour roll of the dead to read off to your opponent every time the kill one of your guys. Doesn't the ASOIAF game have a "gore piles" mechanic that leaves a mess after every combat to impose penalties all round?
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That's Sludge, the totally-not-a-turnip28-ripoff game. It's the only original mechanic it has.
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Grey Hunter posted:You could print a load of casualties and sprinkle them down with each failed offensive. have an honour roll of the dead to read off to your opponent every time the kill one of your guys. https://mobile.twitter.com/Sporting_chin/status/1589744385524391936 me after the game
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JcDent posted:That's Sludge, the totally-not-a-turnip28-ripoff game. It's the only original mechanic it has. I just checked, ASOIAF also has the corpse pile mechanic. Is Turnip28 even a game or one of these weird art projects like Blanchitsu.
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Z the IVth posted:I just checked, ASOIAF also has the corpse pile mechanic. Ok, ASOIAF does have corpse piles in some missions. Turnip28 is a very functional Napoleonics game where you can spice things up by joining such factions like "graip reliquary, but its a turnip," "combat gardeners" and "eaters of their own commanders"
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Arquinsiel posted:But also here is fine too. The last time I did this I was in primary school and my dad helped me. I was originally just looking for some Flames of War-type BT-7s or Comrade Emchas I could slather in light brown paint and call it a day, since I knew that if I set my expectations for what I could manage in terms of painting too high I'd lose all motivation before I'd even finished, but there were no BT-7s or M4A2s, and for whatever reason the Tamiya 1:35 Walker Bulldog was about half the price of all other tank kits in the store.     I started with just a bottle of olive green paint, but once I'd assembled the model I felt that I wouldn't be happy unless I painted in some details. The more details I did the more confident I got, and I'm very happy with the tanker bar thingy:  It should probably not have a wooden shaft, come to think of it, but oh well. It looks great!
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First batch of 3mm dollies arrived. I'm still not sure on how I want to base them: Two ranks of two strips on 40mm? most practical  Three ranks of two strips on 40mm? probably closest to reality of close ordered line troops but just a bit too crowded?  Three ranks of two strips on 60mm? nicely spaced but maybe a little near to being sparse?  Three ranks of three strips on 60mm? cinematic and awesome, but then I'm at almost 100 figures per base and while I'm not going to do it straight away I do have a long term goal of a 'grand' army - and setting myself up with needing to paint multiple thousands of figures seems a bit risky.  I can't decide - I can see justification for 2x2 on 40mm, and both 60mm permutations. Can someone help me? Southern Heel fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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JcDent posted:Ok, ASOIAF does have corpse piles in some missions. I get the gist but where are the rules? I went looking once but all I found were people doing pretty models and little else. It's like some of the Inq28 and Blanchitsu, lots of pretty models but very little explanation of how they are being used apart from being visual aids in a story.
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Southern Heel posted:First batch of 3mm dollies arrived. I'm still not sure on how I want to base them: Z the IVth posted:It's like some of the Inq28 and Blanchitsu, lots of pretty models but very little explanation of how they are being used apart from being visual aids in a story. Arquinsiel fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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Z the IVth posted:I get the gist but where are the rules? I went looking once but all I found were people doing pretty models and little else. Think you've got to pay for it via his Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/Turnip28
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Nah, the rules are a free post on it: https://www.patreon.com/posts/play-turnip28-50212485
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Lumbermouth posted:Nah, the rules are a free post on it: https://www.patreon.com/posts/play-turnip28-50212485 Nice, good to see there's a game behind it! Maybe I'll make a Jacob-Rees Bogg the Toff miniature one day.
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Arquinsiel posted:Since you're cutting your own bases, have you considered 3 ranks of 2 strips on 50mm? I wasn't going to make my own tbh, I was just sketching before ordering a stack from warbases  I hadn't considered anything else because I was so deep into it being a standard DBx or 6mm base size but actually a 50mm width for 3x2 looks really nice and I'm never going to actually PLAY this game with anyone anyway...  I also painted up the first lot - they're not perfect by any stretch but they do seem reasonably like fusiliers. I did attempt to paint the cuffs and facings but it was just completely lost (as expected) so regimental identification is out the window though 
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drat those are tiny They look great though; I definitely get the impression that it's a group of dudes that are either very small, or far away 
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Southern Heel posted:I wasn't going to make my own tbh, I was just sketching before ordering a stack from warbases
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Lumbermouth posted:Nah, the rules are a free post on it: https://www.patreon.com/posts/play-turnip28-50212485 The link to the Google Drive rules doesn't work. I guess he must have taken them down...?
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Cannibal Smiley posted:The link to the Google Drive rules doesn't work. I guess he must have taken them down...? The attachment at the bottom of the post does though! https://www.patreon.com/file?h=50212485&i=7850899
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The GDrive link in the Patreon "About Max" section works for me. Also, the game has a loving tight TTS module with great art. JcDent fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Nov 19, 2022 |
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