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DariusLikewise posted:He was the defensive pass game coordinator with the Rams. Basically the guy that decides what coverages they are playing week to week. Ah that makes more sense than what I was thinking.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I think he could convince some people that he was never given a good QB situation and had the team competitive every year taking an option off of the scrapheap every year. I'm not saying he'd be right, but I've seen worse coaches get hired as an HC somewhere else the next year more times than I can count. I mean, I like Reich. But he was totally lost this season. Part of it was the trash offensive line, but he has to take responsibility for playing bad players every game and for the collapse at the end of last year. His playcalling this year was really bad. I think for his own sake he shouldn't go right back into head coaching and work on getting his creativity in gameplanning back.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Shane Waldron was with McVay going back to Washington and is currently making Geno Smith look like an NFL caliber QB, he might get some interest. It'd be pretty sad as a Seahawks fan if that happens since it feels like he's the successor for Pete, but I also don't see Pete retiring in less than 3 years so Waldron might get his shot earlier (and would have earned it).
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Codependent Poster posted:I mean, I like Reich. But he was totally lost this season. Part of it was the trash offensive line, but he has to take responsibility for playing bad players every game and for the collapse at the end of last year. His playcalling this year was really bad. I think for his own sake he shouldn't go right back into head coaching and work on getting his creativity in gameplanning back.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Rich Bisaccia has to be getting looks in the offseason, right? It took until the 10th game of the season for Bisaccia (and LaFleur) to finally bench the player who has fumbled multiple punt/kick returns. The Packers special teams are now merely bad instead of historically terrible but I don't think that's an endorsement of Bisaccia.
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Learning from your mistakes is a sign of weak character. Give me the iron willed Billicks and Gases of the world who never learn a thing.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Learning from your mistakes is a sign of weak character. Give me the iron willed Billicks and Gases of the world who never learn a thing. This is the way 
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Nov 15, 2022 11:37
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Let's not go too far. there is absolutely no way he would be worse
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:there is absolutely no way he would be worse 
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Gase is unquestionably a better OC than Matt Patricia. That isn't an endorsement of Gase being GOOD, Patricia is just that bad
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Gase is a better OC and HC and person than Patricia When the bar is in hell, etc etc
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Ben Johnson is the next big upcoming OC I think.
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Gase isn't very good but we have Matt loving Patricia as our OC dude
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Gase isn't very good but we have Matt loving Patricia as our OC dude I am aware, and you are still wrong. It can always get worse.
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it's hilarious that the Jets had a front row seat to the incompetence of Adam Gase in Miami and decided, "actually he's good and we're hiring him to coach our team"
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Gase was so bad that he has given multiple teams way too much hope in grabbing former 1st round QBs off the trash pile and thinking the problem was the coaching was the problem.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I would love to have Gase as the Pats OC right now Why do people still think it matters who the assistant coaches on the Patriots are as long as Bill is there?
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mcmagic posted:Why do people still think it matters who the assistant coaches on the Patriots are as long as Bill is there? I think they'd be better on offense this year if it was McDaniels rather than pencil and Joe Judge 
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Ehud posted:I think they'd be better on offense this year if it was McDaniels rather than pencil and Joe Judge The fact that they have 5 wins with their level of talent is literal witchcraft. They would be 1-9 with a replacement level HC.
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mcmagic posted:Why do people still think it matters who the assistant coaches on the Patriots are as long as Bill is there? Bill was never in charge of the offense, ever. It was always McDaniels' and Brady's baby. Bill may have made the big decisions during games, but he was never calling plays. Even on that infamous 4th and 2 call from their own 28 yard line against the Colts, when Belichick decided to go for it, Brady had to explain to him what play they were going to run. Belichick decides the composition of the offense, and the strategic direction they're going to take, but he's not a playcaller.
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I don't think you can really compare head coaching performance to coordinator performance. Fangio was an all-star coordinator and forgettable as a head coach.
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Josh McDaniels is a very good offensive coordinator that only the most brokebrained of Pats fans would argue with. He is abject garbage as a head coach though and should be given no control other then how to draw fancy option route trees.
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syzpid posted:Gase was so bad that he has given multiple teams way too much hope in grabbing former 1st round QBs off the trash pile and thinking the problem was the coaching was the problem. But doesn’t that imply the coaching…wasn’t the problem?
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mcmagic posted:The fact that they have 5 wins with their level of talent is literal witchcraft. They would be 1-9 with a replacement level HC. its absurd. his ability to make other teams entirely self destruct while the pats limp around the field defies belief.
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Cross posting from the NFC West thread.seiferguy posted:https://twitter.com/WillRheinford/status/1592529980977983489?t=6ean7rOXU03z7yr0sXNSxA&s=19
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Nervous posted:Cross posting from the NFC West thread. No one named Schottenheimer should ever be involved with football offense in any way.
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Schotty was the OC when the “Let Russ Cook” thing took off and when Russ had his most prolific period ever as a passer so I’m going to choose to believe this is true because it further confirms that Russ is a raging egomaniac who only cares about padding his stats. Also, Russ is a bigger distraction and locker room cancer than Kaep ever was.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Also, Russ is a bigger distraction and locker room cancer than Kaep ever was. I believe that’s 100% accurate 
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Kalli posted:Josh McDaniels is a very good offensive coordinator that only the most brokebrained of Pats fans would argue with. He is abject garbage as a head coach though and should be given no control other then how to draw fancy option route trees. How many 4th quarter leads have the Raiders given up this year? I mean, can you pin it all on the offense or is it just a poo poo show in Vegas?
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trilljester posted:How many 4th quarter leads have the Raiders given up this year? I mean, can you pin it all on the offense or is it just a poo poo show in Vegas? I think the Ryan run really highlights how consistently gassed the defense is going into the second half every game. It wouldn't shock me if McDaniels is driving them out to the open desert to practice or some such nonsense in the name of toughening them up.
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The Titans would be undefeated if it weren't for the refs (and also the offense being bad in the games they lost (and the offense being bad in the games they won didn't help either)).
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Black Lighter posted:I think the Ryan run really highlights how consistently gassed the defense is going into the second half every game. It wouldn't shock me if McDaniels is driving them out to the open desert to practice or some such nonsense in the name of toughening them up.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Also, Russ is a bigger distraction and locker room cancer than Kaep ever was. I've never set foot in a NFL locker room, and I'm a bigger distraction and locker room cancer than Kaep ever was.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Yeah I've wondered why the collapse in the second half and I have to wonder if like... the offense is too up tempo or inconsistent such that the defense is really tired midway through the 3rd quarter then they Without looking anything up I’d guess it’s because the defense is always in the middle of an extended 8-12 play drive because they rarely stop the opposing offense and almost never force turnovers. I believe they’re at six for the year in forced turnovers. I’m curious where the LV offense sits compared to the rest of the nfl in total drives, because I’d wager they’re near the bottom as a result. e: I looked up offensive possessions per game and they’re pretty much right in the middle so I was wrong on that one. But they’re like 26th this year in total offensive plays per game. 
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trilljester posted:How many 4th quarter leads have the Raiders given up this year? I mean, can you pin it all on the offense or is it just a poo poo show in Vegas? The defense has been really bad. The offense hasn't been a problem. Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Apparently you can pin it all on the refs. Also this. This wasn't called DPI for instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRYsGlEGPds&t=721s The play before was even more blatant DPI that didn't get called.
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