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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Ya but they turned 1 year of control into 9! Atkins does it again!!! Macko's an actual prospect and not just a lottery ticket so maybe it works out. I was pretty confident Swanson would continue to be a good bullpen arm for at least another season or two based on how he pitches and how he was used in Seattle. No idea if the Jays generally keep guys shortened up to 3-4 outs per appearance though.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:15
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Its clearly to cut his 15 million off of the payroll. Otherwise you would just pay a reliever in FA.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:16
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Its clearly to cut his 15 million off of the payroll. Otherwise you would just pay a reliever in FA. Sometimes being cheap can work out! I think the Mariners got the best side of this but it's not purely a dump for nothing and I like Swanson
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Nov 16, 2022 17:18
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I really thought Gurriel would be the outfielder that goes
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Nov 16, 2022 17:18
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Penisaurus Sex posted:Sometimes being cheap can work out! Swanson was good last year but he's still a reliever and if he sucks next year they'll cut him loose. Its bad process on its face, but it really depends on what happens next. The Jays are down to around 175 million after arbitration raises now, which leaves them 40 million or so to spend if the 215 million payroll number reporters have thrown around is accurate. Could get them Nimmo and a #4 starter.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:22
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Gerblederp posted:I really thought Gurriel would be the outfielder that goes So did I. I would assume that they have some sort of follow up plan since they are theoretically trying to compete. And maybe they really think that 2022 Hernandez is more the future than 2021 or 2020, which means he wouldn't be so irreplaceable. But it also really looks like, as darude - adam sandstorm wrote, this is first and foremost a cost cutting move. At least they got another middle reliever.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:24
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Losing Swanson isn't nothing, but the Mariners need outfielders, so this trade makes sense. Hopefully Teoscar continues to produce and they can lock him up for a bit.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:25
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Swanson has some elite numbers https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/1592911505854369792 He only pitched one inning in the playoffs Seems like a superfluous arm they couldn't find a place for which makes him an ideal trade piece. Hope Teoscar Hernandez sucks!
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Nov 16, 2022 17:28
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I think the playoffs just shook out in a way where there wasn't much of a spot for him. Scott was really, really into pitching matchups and drilling deep down into poo poo for the Astros series and they worked the hell out of Munoz/Brash/Sewald.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:29
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Penisaurus Sex posted:I think the playoffs just shook out in a way where there wasn't much of a spot for him. He's the Mariner's Stanek, but I bet he can't house a beast tallboy as fast as Ryne
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Nov 16, 2022 17:31
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https://twitter.com/ToddZolecki/status/1592918853432258560
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Nov 16, 2022 17:54
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He should be able to return as a DH near the beginning of the season if all goes well.
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Nov 16, 2022 18:30
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https://twitter.com/ShiDavidi/status/1592953081612087296 UHHHHH I know that GM's spew bullshit always but lmao no they can't.
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Nov 16, 2022 19:54
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/ShiDavidi/status/1592953081612087296 It's Whit Merrifield's time to shine!
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Nov 16, 2022 20:00
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I wonder if Verlander would take an incentive-based contract? Say 3 years/$120M, but the 3rd year is an option that only becomes guaranteed if he pitches 120 innings in '23 and '24 and doesn't have elbow surgery? That would give his new team some insurance against signing a 40 year old coming off TJS.
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Nov 16, 2022 20:23
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Intruder posted:From an Astros perspective since that's where he's coming from and they want to bring him back, given their pitching depth and pressing needs elsewhere I wouldn't want to bring him back at that AAV unless Crane is willing to go deep into the tax (which I doubt he is) Coming in late on this, but there’s a better chance of Cleveland signing my 7 year old daughter to play first base than there is of them signing Justin Verlander. He would literally represent 80% of their 2022 payroll.
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Nov 16, 2022 20:36
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I'm sure plenty of teams would like to offer JV that deal but if you were him would you take it? Because all the risk is on his side, and he already signed a deal like that with the Astros (though it was a total mystery if he'd come back dominant when he signed that deal). I said last week that someone is going to offer him 3/130 and I don't see anything that changes that math. Welcome to the Mets, Justin Verlander.
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Nov 16, 2022 20:36
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Oh my god, two people voted for Aaron Boone for Manager of the Year! https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/ywdqbx/tito_wins_al_moty/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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Nov 16, 2022 20:57
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Hmm. Is George Springer going to get moved off CF?
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Nov 16, 2022 21:00
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https://twitter.com/BrendanKutyNJ/status/1592973706384781312 lol @ rizzo subtweeting the cubs
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Nov 16, 2022 21:13
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Don’t put that on the Mets
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Nov 16, 2022 21:20
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/BrendanKutyNJ/status/1592973706384781312 The only former "core" Cubs player who was any good this year was Rizzo, and that was mostly because he blooped a bunch of dinky HR's into the short porch. Also  at whining about "what they deserve" when he declined a 4/60 extension by the Cubs and now will get at the absolute maximum 4/67 from the Yankees including 2022, if they pick up his option in 2025. Not like you bet on yourself and flipped the finger to the Cubs by picking up a massively larger payday, buddy.
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Nov 16, 2022 21:39
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Good trade Mariners. Now spend money assholesDarude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Swanson was good last year but he's still a reliever and if he sucks next year they'll cut him loose. Its bad process on its face, but it really depends on what happens next. Lol the Mariners could add a 30mil a year player and still not be at 175mil Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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Nov 16, 2022 21:49
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Rumor appears to be that the Blue Jays are in on Nimmo now
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Nov 16, 2022 21:59
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Its Rinaldo posted:Good trade Mariners. Now spend money assholes Judge for left field? Can he play left? Can Teoscar?
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Nov 16, 2022 22:07
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Some Numbers posted:Oh my god, two people voted for Aaron Boone for Manager of the Year! Well deserved since he drug those bums all the way to an ALCS appearance imo
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Nov 16, 2022 22:20
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https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/1592929960293195776 i'm sure it's just a coincidence
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Nov 16, 2022 22:30
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There's basically no way he resigns with the Angels -- they don't have the financial flexibility to both pay him and put together a team that he wants to be on. When he came over, he needed to find a team that would let him pitch and hit, but now that he's proven what he can do, that's not a concern.
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Nov 16, 2022 22:34
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He's gonna be a Cub
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Nov 16, 2022 22:46
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Popete posted:He's gonna be a Mariner
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Nov 16, 2022 23:10
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/BrendanKutyNJ/status/1592973706384781312 oof https://twitter.com/finklebone/status/1592937715691290624 I'm not a Yankees' fan, but I'd totally be on board for endless 1-year megadeals
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Nov 16, 2022 23:14
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Popete posted:He's gonna be a Marlin
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Nov 16, 2022 23:17
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https://twitter.com/MrUram/status/1592983577427607552 This is dumb, because a few extra rooms rented from a Holiday Inn don't actually do anything for working people. It just comes off as justifying taxpayer-financing of stadiums.
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Nov 16, 2022 23:37
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Wow only nine more WS to go before it's the equivalent of the taxpayer portion of the stadium or whatever
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Nov 16, 2022 23:43
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Carlos Rodon had a higher Fangraphs WAR than Justin Verlander and Sandy Alcantara. Just a random fact I found interesting.
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Nov 17, 2022 00:17
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OK, Pedro Martinez telling Alcantara he won is pretty cool
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Nov 17, 2022 00:48
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The Pussy Boss posted:Carlos Rodon had a higher Fangraphs WAR than Justin Verlander and Sandy Alcantara. Just a random fact I found interesting. If you want a pitcher metric stripped of batted ball luck, then it starts with xERA
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Nov 17, 2022 01:15
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Rodon: 178 IP, 2.64 xERA, 6.2 fWAR Verlander: 175 IP, 2.66 xERA, 6.1 fWAR Seems fine to me, they were functionally the same pitcher this year by expected stats and IP, but Rodon ever so slightly edges Verlander out.
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Nov 17, 2022 01:27
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 https://twitter.com/dril/status/549425182767861760
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Nov 17, 2022 01:30
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still cant believe they disrespected our perfect boy by not making him a CYA finalist.
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