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Chainclaw posted:you underestimate how many weirdos there are that think the weird app they are working on is going to somehow save and change the world, so they absolutely want to work 100 hour weeks on it. You could talk to a dude who's building an app to use machine learning to analyze farts and create NFTs of your farts and they'll be absolutely convinced that somehow their work is Important and they absolutely need to sleep at the office to do it. Plus you have managers who once they get one employee like this, they think everyone should be like this, and someone who just shows up and does their job as described is suddenly not working hard enough
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bobjr posted:Plus you have managers who once they get one employee like this, they think everyone should be like this, and someone who just shows up and does their job as described is suddenly not working hard enough Ah yes, quiet quitting
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Nov 16, 2022 17:17
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Nov 16, 2022 17:17
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"Everyone will have to work long hours because we laid off half the staff" sure is a message to end your employees. Several years ago I worked at a company that tried this. Managers pulled everyone into their offices and said "the new standard will be 55 hour weeks". No pay or benefit increases, just "the economy is kind of bad so we need to work harder". I said "LOL no" and got laid off a couple of weeks later, as did anyone else who was reluctant about the new hours -- roughly a third of the company. Within a couple of months, over half of the remaining engineers had quit, including people who had become single-point-of-failure knowledge bases for critical systems. I'm sure some Elon TRUE BELIEVERS will stay, as will employees who are too young/fresh out of school to realize that working for capital-T Twitter isn't as big a deal as they thought. But I'd bet the vast majority are just hanging on, saying "yes Elon whatever you say Elon" and collecting a paycheck while they interview elsewhere.
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MikeJF posted:The Artrmis program will never change because SLS is just a pork barrel machine and they'll never divert to something else that isn't the existing pork. amazing this comment went by with only one LOL. lmao
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SuddenCactus posted:https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1592801188277538818 Not the same thing, but pretty much every wrestling promotion branding itself as "Extreme Hardcore" has died a pathetic death. Not a promising look.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:21
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Later: "You clicked yes on hardcore!! That was legally binding!!" Lawyers, adding to the pile: lol
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The Saddest Rhino posted:https://twitter.com/Et3rnalOptimist/status/1592618889309028352?t=YaJwwi-mgC_vEIXcUGko2Q&s=19 So this was part of some sort of prank where these two walked outside Twitter HQ pretending they were fired, which was pretty believable because it was the same time that loads of employees were finding themselves out of a job, and got on the news apparently? Seems kind of lovely to invite them back to the office for a photo that ends up kind of mocking the huge amount of people who he laid off
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The Saddest Rhino posted:https://twitter.com/Et3rnalOptimist/status/1592618889309028352?t=YaJwwi-mgC_vEIXcUGko2Q&s=19 Musk: And what's your name, little lady? Rahul: Ligma Butt. Edit: I missed that Trump's "Ligma Johnson" was intentional. He'd actually fired these two then used his power to publicly humiliate them. What a *&%# scumbag. BigBadSteve fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/sawyermerritt/status/1592232095434567680?s=46&t=glpA7ch0ZA6-tGw1dbqITA This is some very on-brand completely unusable and gimmicky reinvention of the wheel
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bobjr posted:Plus you have managers who once they get one employee like this, they think everyone should be like this, and someone who just shows up and does their job as described is suddenly not working hard enough And if there is a a distinct problem with places like California, it's the distinct lack of merciless bullying of people like that. The failure to ostracize someone because they insist their NFartTs are gonna revolutionize the world is why we're gonna be able to measure the impact of lovely monkey art for braindead bros in a chart of the planet's average temp. Like god drat if there isn't anything I dislike more in my field. Be proud of your work, sure, but you don't hear carpenters out there saying their tables are gonna end world hunger. They just make nice tables. But I guess when you and everyone around you is an Adderall addicted narcissist, this is the poo poo we get.
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The follow up is even better https://mobile.twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1592907968131239941
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Holy poo poo he's gone sov cit
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So his argument is all legal judgements are invalid? "I'm not paying those families anything, I was under duress!" seems like an Alex Jones argument
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Well that's going to go over well with federal regulators. Does this mean the "agree to be slaves or get fired" message is invalid? 🤣 Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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Hardcastlemccormik posted:The follow up is even better “If you’re in enough lawsuits” 
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Kingo Ligma posted:Most civilized countries have defacto/ common law/ whatever after a reasonable amount of time spent living together (fair bit less than 7 years lol). Common law was a way to deal with people not actually being married because the minister faked his license or they couldn’t make it to a courthouse because they were on the frontier or they were illiterate and couldn’t read the marriage license or didn’t fill it out correctly. It’s not really something that fulfills that purpose anymore in the age of cars, omnipresent government, and widespread literacy.
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Azhais posted:So his argument is all legal judgements are invalid? "One weird trick lawyers hate"
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He is determined to gently caress about and find out in as many ways as possible.
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I really really want the lawyer to ask about if he has the same attitude towards other things like for example SpaceX and ITAR.
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The government is nothing but duress your honor so I consider this all a kangaroo court
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SuddenCactus posted:https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1592801188277538818 he is definitely expecting a lot of people to take this offer. i think in his head he wants to run twitter with 150 people or whatever number of software staff he says he has at tesla, which seems to be all you need to swindle customers out of $15,000 for a self-driving feature that is 5 years overdue and will never actually work. at tesla it's not about what size software team you need to build a good product, it's how many you need to sell a convincing grift with some shiny demos. that's the business model he is the most successful with and it's what he'll try to replicate. firing half the twitter staff was only the first step, i think, and 80-90% is probably the real target he has in mind. the real lurking issue isn't the backend though, it's moderation. that's the part that's the most labor intensive and the most delicate for a global social network, not how many engineers you have. the website going down for a day or having intermittent performance issues is not going to kill twitter, but being barred from operating in countries that have functioning governments because the first 10 replies to every politician's tweet are from verified antisemitic bot accounts could kill twitter. the (mostly low-paid contract) people who do that job are the real front-line essential workers, and the engineers who supported those teams were already fired. it's mindbogglingly stupid that he's already cut so many teams and contractors that do the actual police work that keeps the site's most visible areas (mostly) free of the worst kinds of advertising and regulatory poison -- particularly foreign teams and the PR/outreach teams with connections to regulatory bodies that might be able to smooth over issues. my guess is he will promise that AI can do all the moderation, again because that's all the tesla grifters know, and Full Self Moderation is always going to be right around the corner. it will never work, and unlike tesla customers, the users and advertisers at twitter aren't yet a self-selected group of musk acolytes who will pretend everything is fine.
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Hardcastlemccormik posted:The government is nothing but duress your honor so I consider this all a kangaroo court Before this week "Elon Musk buys a disused floating oil derrick and declares it a sovereign nation" wasn't even on my radar, but now it seems like a real possibility.
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Yeah this Twitter 2.0 thing is just the final loyalty test where everything said implicitly so far is now said explicitly and in writing with an easy opt out. Maybe they hadn’t wanted to make things so explicit but the vibes internally must be pretty antagonistic. Musk vastly underestimates the amount of people he needs to keep the site working. I assume he thinks well if we can’t turn it around in the next month we will rewrite it. Classic insane deadline manager stuff touted by an narcissist who fundamentally can’t understand that something might be more difficult and complicated than it appeared to him on first blush.
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Nov 16, 2022 17:50
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Nov 16, 2022 17:53
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John McAfee was the original Elon Musk
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/sawyermerritt/status/1592232095434567680?s=46&t=glpA7ch0ZA6-tGw1dbqITA jesus, can they design a single loving thing that isn't wildly impractical and annoying to use
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Not in tech so maybe I'm totally off base here, but everyone I know who is in tech thinks Elon is a total chucklefuck and makes me wonder if staying on board for HARDCORE TWITTER might make your resume actually look worse compared to everyone who noped out
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It's a typo. They are actually tipping glasses
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Crazy. They look identical to Tesla's "Sucker of the Year" award.
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Elon could be a seasteader, but he seems more fixated on Mars. His dreams are just more Red Faction than Bioshock.
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Mercury_Storm posted:It's like looking through the bars into a zoo of idiot manchildren lol but enough about GBS
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WhiteHowler posted:"Everyone will have to work long hours because we laid off half the staff" sure is a message to end your employees. I want and do mostly agree with you but this is a bad time for the Twitter employees. So many tech and media companies are doing layoffs. Google, TikTok and Apple are probably the big ones that haven't done it yet. So there is going to be a lot of people looking for jobs all at once and a lot of companies are tightening their belt. These twitter employees are skilled labour but even now skilled labour is getting cut across the board. I am guessing Elon knows this and is turning the screws because he thinks he has leverage. I hope i am wrong and i wish my fellow members of labour well but I would be nervous.
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Mr Musk don’t you worry. I was watching Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn't on but I got the gist of it.
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Enigma89 posted:I want and do mostly agree with you but this is a bad time for the Twitter employees. So many tech and media companies are doing layoffs. Google, TikTok and Apple are probably the big ones that haven't done it yet. So there is going to be a lot of people looking for jobs all at once and a lot of companies are tightening their belt. i'm not in web development, but at least in aerospace, you can walk to basically any contractor right now and get a job immediately. the job market is still very good for software if your skills go beyond front end javascript (and even then, it's probably not that bad) e: the pay may not be as good, but the pay per hour will be if elon is demanding 80 hour weeks
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So at this point everyone in Twitter Legal has either quit or jumped out of a building because holy poo poo you don't say that about consent decrees.
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