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Shibawanko: Feb 13, 2013

going back to your own time period after preventing the launch of the psx and everyone's playing elden ring on the cd-i 5. it has dr mario style cutscenes. plumbers don't wear ties is a long running franchise

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 20:11

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

Going back in time to prevent Mario 64 coming out and making Croc the most influential platformer of the era.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 07:22

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

njsykora posted:

Going back in time to prevent Mario 64 coming out and making Croc the most influential platformer of the era.

gummy savers replace bitcoin as the main cryptocurrency

# ? Nov 17, 2022 07:29

kirbysuperstar: Nov 11, 2012; Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

the psp was good i will fight everyone

# ? Nov 17, 2022 07:32

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

I don't think that's much disputed now given how many people are super into PSP emulation. Hell I think the PSP outsold the GBA.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 07:33

Shibawanko: Feb 13, 2013

njsykora posted:

Going back in time to prevent Mario 64 coming out and making Croc the most influential platformer of the era.

gex

# ? Nov 17, 2022 07:39

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

kirbysuperstar posted:

the psp was good i will fight everyone

Good thing you like punchsport pagoda because you�re in it!

# ? Nov 17, 2022 10:10

The Kins: Oct 2, 2004

Some leaked old videotapes from the Nintendo QA department demonstrating bugs and crashes and stuff for developers to reproduce and fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEy0UuenpJg

Nothing incredible since it's all nigh-final builds - about the only previously-unseen thing is a character select pose in Smash Bros. Melee - but a kind of interesting peek behind the curtain. And an interesting reminder that even with all the advances in tech over the years, some disciplines like QA really haven't changed much.

Well, okay, they probably use Shadowplay instead of VCRs now. Well, I hope they do, at least...

# ? Nov 17, 2022 12:32

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

BrainDance posted:

At least for me the idea of content you make for a game, I didn't understand that it would have limits back then and apparently neither did anyone else at my middle school so it all seemed more amazing than it ended up being. Whenever we heard you could make a character/level or whatever for some future thing it was always "I'm gonna make this thing that does this and this and this" that was all just impossible poo poo.

I learned my lesson when I got some n64 fighting game with a character creator and instead of being able to make all my dreams come true I could make bald guy.... guy with spiky hair... bald woman and they all played like every other character.

My stupidest (maybe) genuine belief is that the n64 using cartridges instead of CDs is a kind of butterfly effect moment that had a far reaching impact on everything thats happened since. People spend a lot of time playing videogames, if FFVII came out on the n64 instead of the psx that would have changed enough in so many people's lives, even if just from load times being faster because the cpu on the n64 was substantially more powerful than the psx, that it would have caused a chain reaction and by 2000 nothing would have been the same. Simpsons would have been cancelled, we'd be posting this on digg, Al Gore would have been president, 9/11 wouldn't have happened, who even knows.

The possibilities are endless

You're actually missing something bigger here that would cause a pretty massive timeline tangent all on its own;

If the PSX never exists, that means no DualShock controller. The template for all controllers after it.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 13:30

Good soup!: Nov 2, 2010

Imagining a universe where every controller is based off the Atari Jaguar's and feeling deeply unsettled

# ? Nov 17, 2022 13:37

Vord: Oct 27, 2007

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You're actually missing something bigger here that would cause a pretty massive timeline tangent all on its own;

If the PSX never exists, that means no DualShock controller. The template for all controllers after it.

But the dualshock is just a snes controller with two more buttons and analog sticks

# ? Nov 17, 2022 13:38

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Vord posted:

But the dualshock is just a snes controller with two more buttons and analog sticks

You're ignoring just how many weird shots in the dark there were for controllers in the early/mid 90's. The DualShock lead to the Xbox controller as well as the DS2, and pretty much wiped out any kind of alternate controller design completely.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 13:40

IUG: Jul 14, 2007

The Saturn with the NiGHTS controller basically set up that controller scheme, but with only one analog stick.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 13:45

Kid Fenris: Jan 22, 2004; If someone is reading this...
I must have failed.

njsykora posted:

Going back in time to prevent Mario 64 coming out and making Croc the most influential platformer of the era.

Just make sure you're not beaten to the punch by the world's only Floating Runner fan.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 13:50

Mr Phillby: Apr 8, 2009; ~TRAVIS~

Vord posted:

But the dualshock is just a snes controller with two more buttons and analog sticks

I also don't think its fair to call it the template for all other controllers when most others don't replicate its weird legacy left stick placement. Its there because thats where there was room to put it on the OG PS controller, just like the N64 its a design that prioritises the D-Pad over the new fangled sticks, only sony stuck with that placement forever for some reason.

Tis just a step in the ever evolving trends, 2 analog sticks was a huge stepforward but both its lauded features, analog sticks and rumble, were nicked from the N64 controller and doubled. If nintendo anounced a controller that punched you in the face sony would immediately start working on one that kicks you in the balls.

Xbox controller obviously ripped off the dreamcast too, same face button placement.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 14:16

Randalor: Sep 4, 2011

Hell, all you have to do is look at Nintendo's controller designs from the N64 to Wii classic controller to see how a company can come to using analog dual sticks on their controllers without "stealing" from Sony.

N64 "Hey, what if we design our console with an analog stick?"
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GameCube "The analog stick was cool, but we can get all of this into one controller if we make the C buttons a digital stick and move the Z button to the shoulder"
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Wii classic controller "Wait, gently caress, we need a second analog stick for Waveracer 64"

# ? Nov 17, 2022 14:38

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

kirbysuperstar posted:

the psp was good i will fight everyone

This

# ? Nov 17, 2022 15:15

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Mr Phillby posted:

I also don't think its fair to call it the template for all other controllers when most others don't replicate its weird legacy left stick placement. Its there because thats where there was room to put it on the OG PS controller, just like the N64 its a design that prioritises the D-Pad over the new fangled sticks, only sony stuck with that placement forever for some reason.

Tis just a step in the ever evolving trends, 2 analog sticks was a huge stepforward but both its lauded features, analog sticks and rumble, were nicked from the N64 controller and doubled. If nintendo anounced a controller that punched you in the face sony would immediately start working on one that kicks you in the balls.

Xbox controller obviously ripped off the dreamcast too, same face button placement.

Dualshock has the superior left stick placement

# ? Nov 17, 2022 15:16

Blue Moonlight: Apr 28, 2005; Bitter and Sarcastic

Sony are a bunch of cowards for never releasing the boomerang controller.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 17:58

Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

Blue Moonlight posted:

Sony are a bunch of cowards for never releasing the boomerang controller.

At this point they should make them and sell them as a special one-off for the PS3's 20th anniversary.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 19:11

Jazerus: May 24, 2011

njsykora posted:

Going back in time to prevent Mario 64 coming out and making Croc the most influential platformer of the era.

croc and gex battling it out to be the ultimate mascot platformer

# ? Nov 17, 2022 19:18

Agrias120: Jun 27, 2002; I will burn my dread.

Blue Moonlight posted:

Sony are a bunch of cowards for never releasing the boomerang controller.

I had this third party PS1 controller and it was loving terrible but little me loved it.

# ? Nov 17, 2022 21:01

Splint Chesthair: Dec 27, 2004

Agrias120 posted:

I had this third party PS1 controller and it was loving terrible but little me loved it.

So hot the face buttons are melting off it!

# ? Nov 17, 2022 23:53

kirbysuperstar: Nov 11, 2012; Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Agrias120 posted:

I had this third party PS1 controller and it was loving terrible but little me loved it.

Ah, the directional...disc...thing...

# ? Nov 17, 2022 23:57

wa27: Jan 15, 2007

Blue Moonlight posted:

Sony are a bunch of cowards for never releasing the boomerang controller.

There's always some contrarians that are like "It looks so comfortable!", but like, not it doesn't. Not at all.

# ? Nov 18, 2022 00:03

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

wa27 posted:

There's always some contrarians that are like "It looks so comfortable!", but like, not it doesn't. Not at all.

Those people want to stick it up their asses, OP.

# ? Nov 18, 2022 00:04

Volte: Oct 4, 2004; woosh woosh

Blue Moonlight posted:

Sony are a bunch of cowards for never releasing the boomerang controller.

How in the gently caress were you supposed to push those shoulder buttons?

# ? Nov 18, 2022 00:08

Dip Viscous: Sep 17, 2019

# ? Nov 18, 2022 00:22

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

wa27 posted:

There's always some contrarians that are like "It looks so comfortable!", but like, not it doesn't. Not at all.

The PS5 controller is apparently unusable for people with wrist issues because of how far in the sticks are, so I assume this is just what they like.

# ? Nov 18, 2022 00:27

ponzicar: Mar 17, 2008

The PS analog stick layout is superior for Katamari games, but for everything else, it's slightly less comfortable.

# ? Nov 18, 2022 00:35

TOOT BOOT: May 25, 2010

I feel like there have only been 2-3 significant improvements in controller design, the NES controller, perhaps the SNES controller, and the PS1 Dual Shock

# ? Nov 18, 2022 01:01

BrainDance: May 8, 2007; Disco all night long!

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You're actually missing something bigger here that would cause a pretty massive timeline tangent all on its own;

If the PSX never exists, that means no DualShock controller. The template for all controllers after it.

In the alternate timeline the Nintendo Playstation would have eaten up development time and resources delaying or outright cancelling the VB and Nintendo would have taken ideas from it for their next console, like the controller.

And so today all controllers would be descendants of the VB controller and we'd have 2 dpads (the c buttons on the N64 controller were close, so it's not a stretch)

But also 2 analog sticks too, we may be all sticks and dpads by now.

Also Gunpei Yokoi would still be alive because he wouldn't have been fired and would have been chilling in his office at Nintendo designing a 3d Mario land game instead of in that car.

Since Nintendo never got burned on the VB they'd have released the Oculus headsets and there'd be no meta. The GameCube would have been a much better console and Zuck would have been playing games instead of inventing Facebook and so he'd just be some guy and your grandparents would be on myspace instead.

This would end up worse for society because foreign influence campaigns would be a lot more extreme with the ability to just embed html into your profile, leading to botnet personhood getting passed in the mid 2000s and the first botnet president in 2016.

BrainDance fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Nov 18, 2022

# ? Nov 18, 2022 02:56

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

BrainDance posted:

This would end up worse for society because foreign influence campaigns would be a lot more extreme with the ability to just embed html into your profile, leading to botnet personhood getting passed in the mid 2000s and the first botnet president in 2016.

2020: Wario gets elected, but since this is an alternate timeline he's not a libertarian

# ? Nov 18, 2022 03:19

mactheknife: Jul 20, 2004; THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON

Sega channel was the loving poo poo I was not poor but it was cheaper for my mom to have that sub than buy me games for my birthday and Christmas and it was about 10x better

# ? Nov 18, 2022 04:24

Waffleman_: Jan 20, 2011; I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You're actually missing something bigger here that would cause a pretty massive timeline tangent all on its own;

If the PSX never exists, that means no DualShock controller. The template for all controllers after it.

# ? Nov 18, 2022 04:30

Jimmy Smuts: Aug 8, 2000

NTSC 240p sticks around as the US TV standard, since Nintendo hates upgrading their graphics chips & is a dominant force on the TV industry due to their console popularity. OTA analog TV never got kicked off the airwaves in 2009 and is still available. Cable TV is also still analog, and scrambled porn is still a thing.

# ? Nov 18, 2022 04:33