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Even then I’d Daemon was kept as the original heir I think you avoid the civil war, though you’d likely have to make sure Daemon isn’t left alone with that baby.
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Has any Targ pulled a Craster and marry his own daughter?
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:Yeah, I remember at the time thinking the choice was "definitely kill your wife and potentially save the baby, or do nothing and most likely lose both." It was an awful situation to be put in, and while Viserys should have consulted Aemma, she was pretty much doomed in either scenario. It also highlights his dithering cowardice and people-pleasing, as he can’t find the courage to do anything but mumble noncommittally to his wife, a woman he genuinely loves, as she dies screaming.
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Nov 14, 2022 22:56
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You know if Viserys had a dragon that was more Puff than Smaug, he’d totally be up there with terrified maesters in wicker sidecars totally mapping the poo poo out of that coast line.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Has any Targ pulled a Craster and marry his own daughter? A Targ that marry he own daughter, a shameless Targ.
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Nov 15, 2022 10:28
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This is unironically way better than the actual intro lol https://twitter.com/oochotd/status/1592189041512177672
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Nov 15, 2022 16:39
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almost anything would be better than the actual HOTD credits. the total refusal to do anything other than oblique or abstract visuals for credit sequences at this point feels like more of a crutch to me. it's cool when they actually have an idea for it that works, but when they don't, they do it anyway because showing human beings in credit sequences or even physical locations is considered low brow. at this point doing the prestige credits is safe and obvious. credit sequences can add a lot to watching a show so it does annoy me when there's an opportunity missed as badly as HOTD.
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Phenotype posted:This goes back to a theory I had when the other show was running -- people in Westeros are all kinda stupid. Remember how it took Tyrion coming to town before anyone thought to rig some extra straps onto a saddle so Bran could ride a horse? Or how Littlefinger was a political genius who gave Sansa to the Boltons for safekeeping? Rappaport posted:You've stumbled upon the tragedy of feudalism as a concept, which may be one of the major plot points behind the intellectual property, "Game of Thrones", when all is said and done. it's because GRRM just uses the archetypical popular imagination of Feudal Europe as a time of no technological innovation and complete stagnation cuz huuurrrr Christianity bad and backward as the basis for his world. The popular culture imagination is basically "Roman Empire good advanced, feudal europe = backward". When in reality medieval Europe produced quite a few very useful engineering and agriculture, it's just that advances in animal feeding, crop rotation or inventing the horizontal loom just isn't sexy enough to make it into fantasy world X. Even if you assume people are dumb it's like every generation of farmers/blacksmith/masons are going to discover small things that slightly improve productivity which when aggregated over 5000 years or so is going to make the society they live in utterly transformed from the lives their ancestors lived. Tech stagnation for 1000s of years requires -a lot-f of suspension of disbelief. Typo fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Using that same theme just screams "we had no confidence this would work." And they were right.
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And as soon as medieval Europe really took off we decided to call it something else
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Fitzy Fitz posted:And as soon as medieval Europe really took off we decided to call it something else The end of the middle ages is generally cited to be the mid-late 15th century medieval Europe really began taking off way way before then, the period between 1100-1300 in England for instance was a time of rapid population and economic growth. In 200 years the population increased 3-4 times, Windmills began appearing in England in the 1100s, by 1300 there were around 10,000 of them. So the world of 1300 was pretty different than the one which existed just 100-200 years ago. the more you learn about the period the more realize the line between "medieval" and "early modern" is actually pretty blurry/ and arbitary By comparison GRRM"s westeros is static for like 5000+ yrs, to put things in perspective that's the distance between the Akkadian Empire and 2500 AD Typo fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Nov 15, 2022 |
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Nov 15, 2022 22:46
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LividLiquid posted:Using that same theme just screams "we had no confidence this would work." how hard was this? http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/63740d75c7007-game-of-thrones-zeo-house-of-dragons.php
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Nov 15, 2022 23:07
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Give all shows the Peacemaker intro until I personally get bored of it
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Typo posted:it's because GRRM just uses the archetypical popular imagination of Feudal Europe as a time of no technological innovation and complete stagnation cuz huuurrrr Christianity bad and backward as the basis for his world. I'm not sure if this is an unironic post defending feudalism? Okay, sure, there was some nice art done back then, sure, but feudalism as a system is hosed up, my friend.
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Rappaport posted:but feudalism as a system is hosed up, my friend. I never claimed that it wasn't
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Yeah feudalism was bad and all if you weren't in charge but what does that have to do with anything in the quoted post?
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That DICK! posted:how hard was this?  I'd mark out.
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Can't blame Martin too much for going with the cliched view of medieval Europe because aside from nerds in universities that's what everybody thought that medieval Europe was up until fairly recently. Also it's fantasy and outside of, like, Fable there isn't much fantasy that moves forward in a meaningful way.
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Typo posted:I never claimed that it wasn't Yeah, but you did try to obliquely attribute the innovation of crop rotation to Christianity.
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I hope Rhaenyra wins. Go Team Black!
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:This is unironically way better than the actual intro lol This rules, also did they sneak a shot of loving Dragonheart in there or is there actually a dragon that derpy in this show?
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Disgusting how much better that is than the actual opening
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That editing is hella good but GoT does need an orchestral theme. Piano just doesn’t get me going.
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Trash Trick posted:you gotta watch succession Make this the new thread title.
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Hipster opinion I know, but I hated Succession. It's basically "child abuse" the show and it was just too disgusting to watch. Not one redeemable character and when everyone in the cast is straight up evil, I don't really care what happens to any of them.
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if i'm not gonna like any of the doggone people, you gotta put dragons or wizards around at least, or something. i dont give a poo poo about this chairman of the bored bullshit. zero bags
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I do wanna watch Succession but I dunno I find following a buncha rich people kind of boring unless they have dragonsThat DICK! posted:if i'm not gonna like any of the doggone people, you gotta put dragons or wizards around at least, or something. i dont give a poo poo about this chairman of the bored bullshit. zero bags
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Hipster opinion I know, but I hated Succession. It's basically "child abuse" the show and it was just too disgusting to watch. Not one redeemable character and when everyone in the cast is straight up evil, I don't really care what happens to any of them. I have not seen the show, but everyone who recommends it to me lists everything you just said as reasons to watch. I guess it's like more awful Seinfeld? I'll give it a shot.
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Marsupial Ape posted:I have not seen the show, but everyone who recommends it to me lists everything you just said as reasons to watch. I guess it's like more awful Seinfeld? I'll give it a shot. It's more of a character study than Seinfeld, but that's kinda the draw: watch these horrible-but-hellishly-rich people and laugh at their weird insecurities and dysfunctional family dynamics, and marvel at how their wealth has given them such a twisted idea of reality as they all try to screw eachother for their own completely unnecessary gain.
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It's Arrested Development but they say cum a lot
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DaysBefore posted:It's Arrested Development but they say cum a lot [hackandfraud]Haha, you mean it’s a TV show about Something Awful?[/hackandfraud]
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Marsupial Ape posted:[hackandfraud]Haha, you mean it’s a TV show about Something Awful?[/hackandfraud] Lowtax is Viserys in this analogy?
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Cranappleberry posted:magic = money and power Your traditional wizard is not all that good at human relations, and must use their, erm, wizardrying ways to get around that. Gandalf excluded, I guess. Money and by affiliation power are an inherited, structural affair in society, but just about anyone can be told yer a wizzard, Harry. (Maybe not, I'm not sure on the canon about Rowling's brand of wizardry) And while anyone who has operated any sort of machine will be glad to tell you, they do have minds of their own, it's not really the same thing as a helicopter just deciding to eat you. Which we just saw, in fact, when the two helicopters fought and got carried away, and drove so much drama with their accidental murdering.
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Tristan Cole has to be the dumbest character in game of thrones history, and that bar is pretty high: "the princess won't give up all her power and privileges to run away and become an average schmuck with me  ""I heard this weird rumour....." "YES I hosed THE PRINCESS  "
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It was hard to get into Succession with the Trump clan on TV non stop. Loved the first season but the whole Targ men always produce white haired kids kind of stomps all over GoT main’s big secret doesn’t it.
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^burtle posted:Loved the first season but the whole Targ men always produce white haired kids kind of stomps all over GoT main’s big secret doesn’t it.
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Alhazred posted:Tristan Cole has to be the dumbest character in game of thrones history, and that bar is pretty high: Honestly, the awkwardness and absurdity of that scene are what I liked about it. A lot of the GoT-verse hinges on the contrivance of either a manipulative character or plot contrivance. Schemes and destiny bullshit. People do real dumb poo poo and make bad decisions. But I can see how you don’t want see that in your entertainment.
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^burtle posted:It was hard to get into Succession with the Trump clan on TV non stop. The glaring exception being who is arguably the main character
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