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50 | 59.52% |
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19 | 22.62% |
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Here’s a crude WAR-like metric based on xERA. Assume replacement level xERA is about 5.00 (where you set this isn’t particularly important for ranking the pitchers at the top, it just changes the scaling. Edit: actually it does matter since it changes the breakpoint in terms of how many innings it takes to make up for a higher xERA. Alcantara stays on top as long as replacement level xERA is at least 4.50. Below that Nola passes him, but you’d have to drop replacement level all the way down to 3.90 before Rodon passes Sandy, and I think we can safely say that’s not realistic in 2022) “xWAR” = (5.00 - xERA) * IP  Alcantara comes out on top because his volume was enough to overcome the slightly worse xERA bawfuls fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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Nov 17, 2022 01:41
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Red posted:This is dumb, because a few extra rooms rented from a Holiday Inn don't actually do anything for working people. Having worked for a destination marketing organization in the past, this is inaccurate. Tourists are temporary taxpayers; not only do they sleep in a destination's hotels, but they eat at the restaurants, they drink at the bars, they buy poo poo at stores, and are basically the difference-maker between profit and loss for low-margin businesses like food & beverage and retail every year. Tourists are a vital cog in cities' economies. Even loving Paducah, Kentucky, experiences a huge economic boost every year because of ... wait for it ... a goddamn quilting festival. Don't get me wrong, taxpayer-funded stadiums are bullshit, have always been bullshit and will always be bullshit, but the direct spending impact of tourism is very real.
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Nov 17, 2022 01:46
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JV wins his 3rd CY. Got all of the 1st place votes
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Nov 17, 2022 01:47
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he's gotta have an Astros hat on his plaque now, right? 2x Cy Young, 2x World Series
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Nov 17, 2022 01:49
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Johnny Bravo posted:he's gotta have an Astros hat on his plaque now, right? 2x Cy Young, 2x World Series I still think he goes in with a blank hat unless Crane does the right thing and gives him the three year contract he’s looking for and retires an Astro.
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Nov 17, 2022 01:51
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https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1593043206803181568
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Nov 17, 2022 01:51
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For what it's worth Verlander as Tiger is the first thing that pops into my head.
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Nov 17, 2022 01:51
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Gonna be extremely dumb when they give the MVP to Judge cause he broke a not record.
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Nov 17, 2022 01:52
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That just means you’re old OP
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Nov 17, 2022 01:52
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Popete posted:For what it's worth Verlander as Tiger is the first thing that pops into my head. Yeah it's the same for me still. It's just staggering how great his years with Houston have been now that he has a 2nd Cy Young
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Nov 17, 2022 01:53
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The unanimous vote leapfrogs Verlander (5.21) ahead of Scherzer (4.61) and Kershaw (4.58) in career Cy Young award shares. He also passes Maddux (4.92) to take third all time on that list, behind Johnson (6.50) and Clemens (7.66). Previous to this year he was 8th all time behind Pedro and Carleton, just ahead of Seaver.
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Nov 17, 2022 01:57
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I think Alcantara and Verlander deserved to win, because IMO the most important stats for Cy Young are runs allowed and IP. Still, Rodon was so fuckin good this year though.
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Nov 17, 2022 02:05
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Man, I forgot all about JV throwing a no hitter in 2019. Yea, those 3.5 years have been stacked with accolades
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Nov 17, 2022 02:27
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Verlander going to go in as a Devil Ray.
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Nov 17, 2022 02:45
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https://twitter.com/UnfortunateMLB/status/1593045965958967297
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Nov 17, 2022 02:47
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Popete posted:Gonna be extremely dumb when they give the MVP to Judge cause he broke a not record. at least it's not as egregious as when Stanton won for hitting homers and not playing defense. it's still very dumb, though, Judge winning the all time AL record for homers in a little league park is accolade enough.
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Nov 17, 2022 02:55
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Strong contender for worst trade of all time - yeesh.
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Nov 17, 2022 03:12
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Oh idk, Ozuna contributed more than say, Josh Fields.
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Nov 17, 2022 03:14
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Hot drat, a Marlin finally won a Cy Young D-Train should have won it in 2005, he was unstoppable
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Nov 17, 2022 03:24
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Nov 17, 2022 03:25
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Kirios posted:Strong contender for worst trade of all time - yeesh. Pedro Martinez for Delino Deshields (sorry bawfuls)
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Nov 17, 2022 03:29
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Once again it's a race for second place after Ruth for $100K
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Nov 17, 2022 03:30
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I still think it's the Miguel Cabrera trade, and it's not even close. You traded a generational player in his prime for a guy who was mostly used as a reliever, a 4th outfielder type, and a pile of scrap.
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Nov 17, 2022 03:33
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Kirios posted:Strong contender for worst trade of all time - yeesh. Penisaurus Sex posted:Pedro Martinez for Delino Deshields (sorry bawfuls)
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Nov 17, 2022 04:03
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Timby posted:Having worked for a destination marketing organization in the past, this is inaccurate. Tourists are temporary taxpayers; not only do they sleep in a destination's hotels, but they eat at the restaurants, they drink at the bars, they buy poo poo at stores, and are basically the difference-maker between profit and loss for low-margin businesses like food & beverage and retail every year. Tourists are a vital cog in cities' economies. Even loving Paducah, Kentucky, experiences a huge economic boost every year because of ... wait for it ... a goddamn quilting festival. Yeah, but it's the temporary part that, to me, means more part time jobs (stadium staff, hotel staff, restaurant wait staff) and less actual full-time jobs that would help someone, you know, live.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:04
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Intruder posted:Once again it's a race for second place after Ruth for $100K Was the theatre play any good?
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Nov 17, 2022 04:13
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those guys scored
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Nov 17, 2022 04:30
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Red posted:Was the theatre play any good? The short answer is no Everyone thinks the money funded No, No Nanette but that's actually based on a play My Lady Friends, which is what the Ruth money funded. My Lady Friends is entirely unremarkable except for having been made into a silent movie in 1921. No, No Nanette wasn't all that successful either, at least on Broadway. It did find some success in Chicago and London, but from the perspective of "was making this worth losing Babe Ruth" the answer is an emphatic "hell no" In 1971 a Broadway revival of No, No Nanette won several Tonys; as far as I can tell Irving Caesar, who wrote Tea for Two, was the only significant person from the original production who was still alive at that point. Irving Caesar also wrote the version of Just a Gigolo that Louis Prima made famous. Looking this up turned out to teach me way more than I thought it would so I'm glad you asked
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Nov 17, 2022 04:31
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FlamingLiberal posted:I still think it's the Miguel Cabrera trade, and it's not even close. You traded a generational player in his prime for a guy who was mostly used as a reliever, a 4th outfielder type, and a pile of scrap. And both of Maybin and Miller didn't really do anything till both left Florida (Miller was atrocious as a starter). Hilariously, Maybin came back to Detroit for one season at the back end of his career and produced almost as much WAR as he did when he was with the Marlins. The second contact he got from the Tigers has been an albatross, but Cabrera still put up almost 50 WAR for the team despite being below replacement level for the last 6 years. A+++ deal, would trade again.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:31
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Julio Urias finishing above Nola is some voting
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Nov 17, 2022 04:35
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Julio Urias finishing above Nola is some voting The Pussy Boss posted:I think Alcantara and Verlander deserved to win, because IMO the most important stats for Cy Young are runs allowed and IP. Still, Rodon was so fuckin good this year though. Urias: 2.16 ERA, 175 IP Nola: 3.25 ERA, 205 IP
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Nov 17, 2022 04:44
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Hell yeah to Alek Manoah.
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Nov 17, 2022 05:43
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how it started: https://twitter.com/SNY_Mets/status/1588275825505452033 how its goin: https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1593095309844164609
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Nov 17, 2022 06:25
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Johnny Bravo posted:how it started: It rules that the Wilpons are still out here loving with the Mets.
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Nov 17, 2022 14:58
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I believe the New York ball clubs are only supposed to communicate via innuendo in NY Post headlines? https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1593060651819491329 Wait, they don't actually give you a Triple Crown do they zoux fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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Nov 17, 2022 15:06
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Here's my take on the Jays: By trading away Hernandez they are lining up to sign Verlander. The pitching rotation will be: Manoah Verlander Gausman Ryu Berrios which will be solid enough to actually win some playoff games (assuming that Ryu comes back healthy and is actually able to pitch). They will then trade Kirk, Jansen, or Moreno for a team friendly outfielder to make up for trading Hernandez. I genuinely think they will be going all in here before they have to start paying Vlad and Co. some serious money.
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Nov 17, 2022 15:34
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lol they aren't signing Verlander Also Ryu is dead and not pitching next year.
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Nov 17, 2022 15:56
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They should absolutely not be trading Kirk from that trio, either.
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Nov 17, 2022 16:00
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Inspector_666 posted:They should absolutely not be trading Kirk from that trio, either. It's not the wildest idea. It's definitely a bit of a risk to commit to Moreno like that in the offseason, but if you're right combination of high on Moreno and low on Kirk's defence, and then the trade return for Kirk is right, there's definitely worlds where you can justify it.
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Nov 17, 2022 16:05
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Cardinals are probably kicking the tires on Kirk, although I don't know what the asking price would be
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