|
Who's your 2022 MVP? This poll is closed. |
|||
|---|---|---|---|
| Shohei Ohtani |
|
50 | 59.52% |
| Aaron Judge |
|
19 | 22.62% |
| Hey, the national league has an MVP too you know! |
|
15 | 17.86% |
| Total: | 84 votes | ||
|
Lame
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 01:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 03:56 |
|
|
STAC Goat posted:Judge is such a boring nice guy he’s pretending Alvarez was in the running. He'll take WS ring and 3 clutch playoff bombs over an MVP I'm sure Anyway, good for future San Francisco Giant Aaron Judge
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 01:59
|
|
|
Such horse poo poo
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:02
|
|
|
Not that it matters, but I thought the first-place votes would be closer for Judge/Ohtani.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:02
|
|
|
Twin Cinema posted:Not that it matters, but I thought the first-place votes would be closer for Judge/Ohtani. I think the narratives of 62, being on a first place team, and the WAR argument all kind of tipped the scales. I still definitely also expected it to be closer but it felt for awhile like the conversation had shifted away from “who will win?” to “how salty/smug is everyone?”
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:05
|
|
|
I honestly did think Judge was more valuable as a player than Ohtani was as both a pitcher and a hitter. Not to say Ohtani wasn't amazing, it's just that Judge was that fuckin good.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:10
|
|
|
Not seeing Trout in the top 4 or 5 is kinda weird. Not incorrect or unexpected because he only played in 119 games, but he did mash 40 HR and had a 178 OPS+.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:12
|
|
|
Is Hack Wilson still the clean NL HR "champ"
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:14
|
|
|
Twin Cinema posted:Not that it matters, but I thought the first-place votes would be closer for Judge/Ohtani. Judge had the best offensive season since Barry Bonds dude. It's very funny that this thread is this braindead on the issue.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:14
|
|
|
They both had insane seasons that I think just got more insane the more you started to analyze them and compare them against the rest of baseball rather than each other. I have no idea how to judge them against each other and I think a lot of people probably felt that way. So I think the narratives won out as they often do in those toss up cases. And I think a big one was when the argument was “Ohtani is more valuable because he’s two players” vs “Judge’s statistical value is higher than Ohtanis two combined”. It’s not actually an objective 1:1. It’s another set of absurd things about both guys. But the narrative kind of framed it as a rebuttal that went to Judge.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:16
|
|
|
seiferguy posted:I honestly did think Judge was more valuable as a player than Ohtani was as both a pitcher and a hitter. Not to say Ohtani wasn't amazing, it's just that Judge was that fuckin good. ESPN made a good argument about this. Ohtani was incredible this year, he produced 31 runs more than an average hitter and saved 40 runs compared to an average pitcher (71 runs combined). It took an insane season by Judge (80 runs better than an average hitter) to win this year. Judge's season likely isn't repeatable, and Ohtani was even better this year than last so it's probably Ohtani's again next year.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:19
|
|
|
In order for Ohtani to win MVP people have to be willing to watch Angels games and that's just not happening.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:20
|
|
|
ihatepants posted:ESPN made a good argument about this. Ohtani was incredible this year, he produced 31 runs more than an average hitter and saved 40 runs compared to an average pitcher (71 runs combined). It took an insane season by Judge (80 runs better than an average hitter) to win this year. Judge's season likely isn't repeatable, and Ohtani was even better this year than last so it's probably Ohtani's again next year. That shouldn’t factor into an individual decision but baseball is a game with a long memory and when it’s all said and done, yeah. Ohtani now has a first and second place finish in MVP in back to back seasons and odds are he’ll be back in that spot again next season. And that’s gonna be his legacy. Judge, who knows? He’s got the same hardware Ohtani does right now. But it seems pretty unlikely he’s gonna repeat this season while Ohtani has already done his season twice.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:23
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:Judge had the best offensive season since Barry Bonds dude. It's very funny that this thread is this braindead on the issue. I think Judge should have won, I just would have guessed that there'd be more than 2 voters who thought Ohtani had a better season. Real chuckle worthy take.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:36
|
|
|
Schroedingers MVP - simultaneously the best and the worst player in the league
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:46
|
|
|
Ammat The Ankh posted:In order for Ohtani to win MVP people have to be willing to watch Angels games and that's just not happening. Excuse me but I have watched more Angels baseball over the past few years than any non-Angels baseball fan should ever have to see. Ohtani should have won but we have to make the Yankees feel better for their terrible World Series drought so here we are.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:48
|
|
|
Everyone just pretended Judge had a historic season because they felt bad for mcmagic fans is a hell of a take.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 02:59
|
|
|
Why watch an Angels game when you can just plug the score into a tweet about Tungstun Arm and save yourself three hours
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:19
|
|
|
Angels games is where cool poo poo happens, sometimes from Ohtani or Trout but usually most often at the Angels expense the thing i hate most about the Angels isnt even the terrible underperforming. its the uniforms. i fuckin hate red and they got too much red Johnny Bravo fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Nov 18, 2022 |
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:20
|
|
|
what the gently caress, christopher morel was robbed!!!!!!!!!
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:25
|
|
|
R.D. Mangles posted:what the gently caress, christopher morel was robbed!!!!!!!!! many are saying this
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:27
|
|
|
judge won using the stanton metric - he hit many dingers so we can ignore the guy who was actually more valuable than him
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:27
|
|
|
I'm glad Judge got to win an MVP in a season where he didn't deserve it so hopefully people can stop whining about 2017
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:31
|
|
|
Intruder posted:I'm glad Judge got to win an MVP in a season where he didn't deserve it so hopefully people can stop whining about 2017 Bro have you ever met a Yankees fan?? lmao
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:34
|
|
|
camoseven posted:Bro have you ever met a Yankees fan?? lmao Have you ever met an Astros fan?
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:48
|
|
|
i've just been told the MLB 2023 awards: NL MVP: "Mash" Mevis NL Cy Young: "Cool" Kyle Hendricks Rookie of the Year: Hayden Wesneski Manager of the Year: David "F." Ross Pitcher Silver Slugger (they're bringing back pitchers hitting): Somehow Carlos Zambrano AL: Folded
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:53
|
|
|
You mean the fans that don't relentlessly boo their players or make death threats on Twitter to the player's parents?
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:55
|
|
|
R.D. Mangles posted:i've just been told the MLB 2023 awards: You're missing one other Cub, Shohei Ohtani. Other than that, looks about right.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:57
|
|
|
MrMidnight posted:You mean the fans that don't relentlessly boo their players or make death threats on Twitter to the player's parents? It wasn't death threats it was telling the player's dad that said player was dead because he didn't hit welll enough e: also I think you'll find that I never whine about 2017 
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 03:57
|
|
|
Liberty Media announced plans to split the Braves and the related real estate business off into its own publicly traded stock. I don't really know how stocks work (dumb, no money) so I'll just c/p from the article:quote:The first and most obvious change, one that requires no speculation, is that the Braves are currently represented by a “tracking stock,” which is an oddball financial instrument that theoretically moves up and down in value based on the financial performance of the entity it represents. But, this move will essentially see current holders of said tracking stock redeem it for a “real” stock, i.e., one that confers ownership of the Atlanta Braves and their business assets.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 04:04
|
|
|
MrMidnight posted:You mean the fans that don't relentlessly boo their players or make death threats on Twitter to the player's parents? The ones who like relentlessly poo poo talk and talk down to other fanbases and teams but then act confused and put out that a bunch of people don’t like them and do the same for stuff they definitely didn’t do and should be over by now and just like the Astros now because their manager is a nice guy. Fans suck and the worst of all of them don’t think their poo poo stinks.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 04:04
|
|
|
I agree the McMagic type of fans are like the January 6 rioters and all the other Yankees fans are like Josh Hawley
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 04:10
|
|
|
STAC Goat posted:Fans suck and the worst of all of them don’t think their poo poo stinks. Agree but unfortunately that's like 90% of them
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 04:14
|
|
|
Man. That week or so I wasn’t being called a nazi for the team I root for was fun. Ah well.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 04:14
|
|
|
When Altuve was setting history with the worst playoff start ever a fan ran onto the field to hug him and tell him he was loved and needed Anyway I wish someone would sign someone
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 04:14
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/barry/status/1593408956646440962?s=20&t=cjJbCCgdh0IwyD8yaOm5dg
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 04:33
|
|
|
Johnny Bravo posted:Angels games is where cool poo poo happens, sometimes from Ohtani or Trout but usually most often at the Angels expense I still don't like the city connect jerseys either. They look like knockoffs you'd buy at a big 5 or target on the way to the game. Remember how high we felt coming off that Detmers shutout where the Angels teed off all night and Rendon went lefty and the Angels were like 20-10 to start the year? Then we lost 15 in a row or whatever. I think I watched every game up till that point and didn't watch another game after the losing streak.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 05:21
|
|
|
Intruder posted:When Altuve was setting history with the worst playoff start ever a fan ran onto the field to hug him and tell him he was loved and needed He was a plant sent to confirm he was wearing a buzzer
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 05:42
|
|
|
glad to know the right man won a yankee
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 06:07
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 03:56 |
|
|
Judge was obviously MVP lol you guys are on crack
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2022 06:17
|
|
