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Along with what Hookshot said, you all know they don't play all seven games of the World Series every year, right? In two-player series, "best of seven" and "first to four wins" are synonyms. In this three-player series, "best of seven" and "first to three wins" are also synonyms.
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CPColin posted:Along with what Hookshot said, you all know they don't play all seven games of the World Series every year, right? In two-player series, "best of seven" and "first to four wins" are synonyms. In this three-player series, "best of seven" and "first to three wins" are also synonyms. Not true -- one player could get to three, and then a second one could get four wins in a row while the third guy gets zero.
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Nov 18, 2022 18:20
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ninjahedgehog posted:Not true -- one player could get to three, and then a second one could get four wins in a row while the third guy gets zero. If a player gets to three, the tournament is over.
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Nov 18, 2022 18:20
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CPColin posted:Along with what Hookshot said, you all know they don't play all seven games of the World Series every year, right? In two-player series, "best of seven" and "first to four wins" are synonyms. In this three-player series, "best of seven" and "first to three wins" are also synonyms. Okay smart guy, why isn't a standard jeopardy game called "best of 2" then?? edit: or would it be best of 3? 4?
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Nov 18, 2022 18:22
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I like the old ToC format better.
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Nov 18, 2022 18:23
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CPColin posted:If a player gets to three, the tournament is over. Then it's not best of seven then, it's first to three. Getting three wins doesn't mathematically eliminate the competition because there's still an outside chance one player gets four.
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Nov 18, 2022 18:23
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CPColin posted:Along with what Hookshot said, you all know they don't play all seven games of the World Series every year, right? In two-player series, "best of seven" and "first to four wins" are synonyms. In this three-player series, "best of seven" and "first to three wins" are also synonyms. "Best of seven" and "first to three wins" aren't synonyms since "best of seven" isn't what is happening in these games. Best of 7 is 4 and no one will even have the opportunity to get 4 wins.
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Nov 18, 2022 18:25
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There's a reason you don't say "best of X" for three-player games.
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wa27 posted:Okay smart guy, why isn't a standard jeopardy game called "best of 2" then?? A standard game is not a series. ninjahedgehog posted:Then it's not best of seven then, it's first to three. Getting three wins doesn't mathematically eliminate the competition because there's still an outside chance one player gets four. There is zero chance a player gets four because the tournament is over as soon as someone gets three. It can be called "best of seven" because the maximum number of games possible is seven (2-2-3). 1glitch0 posted:"Best of seven" and "first to three wins" aren't synonyms since "best of seven" isn't what is happening in these games. Best of 7 is 4 and no one will even have the opportunity to get 4 wins. "Best of 7 is 4" is true for two-player series, which this tournament isn't.
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Nov 18, 2022 18:31
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This thread is the three players avoiding the sports category right now.
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It's simple. The maximum number of games in this scenario is seven. We have three players. The points to win is three games. If each player wins two games, we are at a total of six games. The next player to win the game wins with three points and the best of seven games.
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Nov 18, 2022 18:35
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In a 2 team best of 7 there's no reason to continue after 1 team wins 4 games. Even if the other team won all the remaining games, they would still lose the series. In a 3 team "best of 7", we stop after 3 if one team goes 3-0-0 because... reasons
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The reason is because terms have meanings and the meaning in this context is that the tournament is over when someone has three wins. Edit: Let's put it this way. Say an executive says, "I want to have a three-player tournament with a maximum of seven games." The producers will think for a moment and say, "Okay, the first player to three wins will take it." Now say an executive says, "I want to have a three-player tournament where the first player to three wins takes it." The producers will think for a moment and say, "Okay, that will have a maximum of seven games." The terms imply each other and you can arrive at them from either direction. When someone talks about a three-player tournament where one player can get three wins and another can stage a comeback and get four wins, that person is describing a different tournament that is neither "best of seven" nor "first to three wins". CPColin fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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CPColin posted:There is zero chance a player gets four because the tournament is over as soon as someone gets three. It can be called "best of seven" because the maximum number of games possible is seven (2-2-3). This is the stupidest argument, and to be clear I don't really care, but "best of 7" and "first to 3 wins" are not really interchangeable terms in a 3 player competition. The 3 game goal and 7 game cap are mathematically unrelated, since two players could tie one another's win count if they played a full 7 games. That's not the case in two team series Cognac McCarthy fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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Nov 18, 2022 20:04
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So in a hypothetical 10-player game, first to three wins would be best of 21? Pretty dumb imo.
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Cognac McCarthy posted:This is circular. You're arguing it's accurate to call it "best of 7" when the criteria for winning is getting 3 wins, not because getting 3 wins means that player will have mathematically won more than half of the 7 games in the series, but because the producers have arbitrarily decided that 3 wins is the criteria for winning the series. Read my edit above. They decided one condition and the other followed. Edit: Somebody pose this question to Marilyn vos Savant. Edit 2: Also, you don't have to win more than half the games in a series when there's three players; you have to win more than a third of them. CPColin fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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quote:When someone talks about a three-player tournament where one player can get three wins and another can stage a comeback and get four wins, that person is describing a different tournament that is neither "best of seven" nor "first to three wins"
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Nov 18, 2022 20:10
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I bet the wheel of fortune thread never has to deal with this bullshit
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Nov 18, 2022 20:13
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Cognac McCarthy posted:How is that not a best of seven? What you've described is a 7 game series where the player with the most wins (4) is the overall winner. With two players? Yes. We're talking about a THREE-PLAYER series here. I'm begging you all to understand why there's a difference. Edit: I'll settle for an understanding that there's a difference.
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Nov 18, 2022 20:13
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Are we on the bodybuilding forums arguing about the days in a week? Math isn't this hard.
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CPColin posted:This thread is the three players avoiding the sports category right now.
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Nov 18, 2022 20:14
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holy poo poo who cares
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christmas boots posted:I bet the wheel of fortune thread never has to deal with this bullshit They're probably on page 50 of the debate over whether 'y' counts as a vowel.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:holy poo poo who cares I do. It's the Jeopardy thread. Its posters should be able to do basic math.
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Nov 18, 2022 20:16
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i hope sam wins a game
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I hope each player wins two games so they get to the seventh and a real best of seven shows up.
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I think it's unlikely that someone comes to the wrong conclusion with either phrasing. If you limit yourself to a three word phrase in summary, "first to 3" admits fewer technically correct but irrelevant formats, while "best of seven" better conveys it might take all week to determine a winner. Now I'm getting mad again about the second Survivor immunity challenge each season being introduced as "once again immunity is back up for grabs".
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:i hope sam wins a game  More games = more better
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FrumpleOrz posted:Are we on the bodybuilding forums arguing about the days in a week? Math isn't this hard. I never said anything about going exactly 7 times, like I said, If I go every other day, that is 4 DAYS A WEEK. How hard is that to comprehend? Week 1 - Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday Week 2 - Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. 8 DAYS IN 2 WEEKS In your terms, 8x in 2 weeks = 4 times a week, genius. All Muscle and No Brains? lol
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Jeopardy only airs new episodes five days a week, so to air all seven games, you obviously need 1.2 weeks 
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YOU ARE THE DUMBEST BOY ALIVE
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christmas boots posted:I bet the wheel of fortune thread never has to deal with this bullshit 
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CPColin posted:Jeopardy only airs new episodes five days a week, so to air all seven games, you obviously need 1.2 weeks They could cut into the 12min of ads with some extra gamepl why are you all laughing
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Winning 3 games isn't the best of 7 even if a million people are playing because it's still possible for one person to win the next 4 games. This isn't some complicated math problem. If the producers want it to be First to 3 then great. There's no reason to tack on "Best of 7' to make it sound like the World Series or something.
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I'm just going to call it best of 3 because you have to have three games at which you were the best
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1glitch0 posted:Winning 3 games isn't the best of 7 even if a million people are playing because it's still possible for one person to win the next 4 games. This isn't some complicated math problem. No it's not, because the tournament is already over as soon as somebody wins three games.
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I feel like I'm having a stroke
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1glitch0 posted:Winning 3 games isn't the best of 7 even if a million people are playing because it's still possible for one person to win the next 4 games. This isn't some complicated math problem. Please do the math. It's really really simple.
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Best of 6.99999…
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Are there any other examples to support the claim that "best-of" means something else with more than two teams/players?
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