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I don't know but tell me about Space Karen
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Is this good it's not just good, it's hysterical
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el dingo posted:I don't know but tell me about Space Karen I hope he eventually gets done by the FTC and also that it gets called Elongate.
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el dingo posted:I don't know but tell me about Space Karen
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/aaronbastani/status/1593637756982411264?s=46&t=Cjsp3P3KDeO1w0SZEVWeqg Woah! Expelling someone for something predating the proscription! What was (until today) Unison's position regarding funding the Labour Party? Picked up from comments under that tweet: Apparently Labour are 'fond' of Christina McAnea who is Gen Sec of Unison and - well I'm not up on the ins and outs of Unison. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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I would be more than happy to see the English Labour party crumble and something actually left wing take it's place. It's fun times when in Northern Ireland I can vote for a major party that's significantly more socialist than anything available in England.
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Nilbop posted:I would be more than happy to see the English Labour party crumble and something actually left wing take it's place. and then get run by the DUP because they throw their toys out of the pram if they're not in charge
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xtothez posted:To be fair £50k that long ago would be equivalent to £80-90k now after inflation. Which is a solid income, but still possibly working class depending where you live & how it is spent. Honestly this is one of the reasons I GTFO of the UK - you can extend that to "anywhere within 2 hours drive of London". My wife and I were earning £80k between us and were thinking of buying a bigger house (bigger than my 750sqft 1.5 bed) and starting a family... but we were looking around where we lived (Milton Keynes) and realised we could still only afford a boxy little semi in a poo poo area with maybe 150 square feet of garden... and still not really feeling like we could afford to have kids - with childcare prices being ludicrous (like a grand+ a month), and with both of our sets of parents not being in a position to help out either monetarily or with childcare. Yes we were able to save money at a decent rate, but looking around and seeing the standard of life we could attain, and still being at risk of being completely hosed if anything happened to either one of us and made us unable to work doesn't exactly foster great feelings of security. I posted about this before and this thread tore me a new one about how rich I was. I tried making the point that actually at that level of income you still don't feel secure, let alone rich - and it's not like I was spending shitloads of money on frivolous stuff or driving a range rover or any of that poo poo that people do and complain about how they have no money despite earning well. I think all the cars(/bangers) I had in 15 years of driving in the UK cost me a total of ~£8k to buy. Another point was that even 5 years ago I was having to spend money on healthcare out of my own pocket for some issues I was having because I was getting absolutely nowhere with the NHS and obviously the costs for that sort of thing can get nuts very quickly. Now things are even more hosed in that regard. Again I was lucky to have that as an option. Also worth noting that it was only in my last 2 years in the UK that we were earning that much (Age 34 when I left), so it's not like I had loads of years of saving up ludicrous sums, or got onto the property ladder before things got crazy like my older brother did*. And yes I realise that I am/was better off than lots of people in the country and in this thread but the point I'm trying to make is that there is a big big difference between getting by or even doing quite well in relative terms, and feeling any sort of real financial security. As it is now I'm nearing 40, and I've been out of work for 3 years, my wife earns well (though we have less income now between us than we did in the UK) we've been able to afford a decent sized house - but only because we moved to Canada (and prices here have skyrocketed in the last 3 years since we moved here - though still cheaper than where we were in the UK). We're probably never having kids, though, which makes me sad, but I feel too much anxiety about the future, including our financial situation. In Canada things are a bit better than the UK but they're still hosed. Healthcare is totally screwed, inflation on food prices in particular is going nuts. It's just poo poo all around. *People ~5+ years older than me who were earning the same or equivalent money (with inflation taken into account) at the same age as I was, would have been *significantly* better off, since most of them would have been able to buy property earlier before things got too crazy, and setting them up for life with cheap mortgage payments. On a completely unrelated topic: https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1593650673152712704?s=20&t=NMsp_qtMua8faR8yvc5o_A WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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Latest list of acceptable documentation for Voter ID. Looks like youngsters will have to plump for the PASS card unless they have passport or Driving Licence and hope they have someone who can vouch for their identity (referee - see *). https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/voter-id-list-gives-few-options-for-younger-voters/ A passport issued by the UK, any of the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, a British Overseas Territory, an EEA state or a Commonwealth country A driving licence issued by the UK, any of the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man or an EEA state A biometric Immigration document An identity card bearing the Proof of Age Standards Scheme hologram (a PASS card) Ministry of Defence Form 90 (Defence Identity Card) A Blue Badge A national identity card issued by an EEA state An Older Person’s Bus Pass A disabled person’s Bus Pass An Oyster 60+ card A Freedom Pass A Scottish National Entitlement card issued in Scotland A 60 and Over Welsh Concessionary Travel card issued in Wales A Disabled Person’s Welsh Concessionary Travel Card issued in Wales A Senior Smart Pass issued in Northern Ireland A Registered Blind Smart Pass or Blind Person’s Smart Pass issued in Northern Ireland A War Disablement SmartPass or War Disabled SmartPass issued In Northern Ireland A 60+ SmartPass issued in Northern Ireland A Half Fare Smart Pass issued in Northern Ireland An Electoral Identity Card issued In Northern Ireland A Voter Authority Certificate or a temporary Voter Authority Certificate * List of allowed referees under various conditions here: https://postoffice.citizencard.com/requirements-for-a-post-office-pass-card Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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Nov 18, 2022 19:51
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-63683667quote:Eton College boys 'booed' visiting state schoolgirls
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673844996288512?t=boEww0NaeSrkrHmleZqUkg&s=19 E: If there's one thing I know about racists, it's that they don't know how retweets work and they definitely never piggy back off / reply to other people's viral tweets. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 18, 2022 |
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Bobby Deluxe posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673844996288512?t=boEww0NaeSrkrHmleZqUkg&s=19 I don't either, what's the deal with the monetization language there?
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I would assume "twitter will not profit from or proliferate hate speech but we will still host it" Which, uh, assumes the problem with it is not follower groups forming and reinforcing each other and attracting new members with less obvious introductory content, which is how it works on every other site that allows closed groups.
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OwlFancier posted:I would assume "twitter will not profit from or proliferate hate speech but we will still host it" Well, from Musk's perspective the problem begins and ends at "advertisers don't want their content served next to it". Actual societal impacts, *fart noise*
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i was afraid kathy griffin had gone bad but apparently he's thrown her in there to make it look balanced because she got banned for slagging him off
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gently caress sake just been reading about the Welsh lady thrown out of a Premier Inn in Enfield on Bonfire Night because they didn't believe her guide dog was a guide dog. 'You don't look blind'. Used the master key to barge into the room where she was not fully dressed and demanded she and her husband get out. There are degrees of blindness between 'unimpaired' and 'can't see anything'. I worry about this - I carry a symbol cane in crowded or dimly-lit places so that other people realise I need a bit more space, but I also wear glasses and often read on my phone or in a book, and I worry that people will make the leap to 'she's pretending to be visually impaired' and get mean. Nobody has so far but ugh. What dickheads.
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Nilbop posted:I don't either, what's the deal with the monetization language there? Musk has confused users making money off tweets (which they don't) with twitter making money off tweets (which they do via ads). In other words he fundamentally doesn't understand why demonitisation would disincentivise posting racism. Short answer, on twitter it doesn't.
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HopperUK posted:What dickheads. I remember being taught way back in school about varying degrees of visual impairment as a "kids don't be dicks or make assumptions" thing, but never the same about variable mobility.
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It's daft anyway cos they have your details if the dog trashes the room they can bill you for it. Who is that loving tiresome that they care about the possibility that you might have a dog without a license.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:On Youtube, 'demonetised' means the user does not get a share of the revenue from ads placed on it. The idea being "You can say it if it's that important to you, but you're not making money on our platform from it." Or he's saying they will remove ads from hate speech tweets so whilst they will host it they won't gain financial ad reward from doing so.
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Guavanaut posted:People assume the same about a lot of mobility aids too, like if you're in a chair you must be completely paralysed from the waist down 24/7. the little britain sketch prob didn't help people in that situation
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Or he's saying they will remove ads from hate speech tweets so whilst they will host it they won't gain financial ad reward from doing so. Which will accomplish... Basically nothing? Making it slightly easier to argue in court that they aren't actively benefiting from ERWT tweets?
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NAME REDACTED posted:Which will accomplish... Basically nothing? Making it slightly easier to argue in court that they aren't actively benefiting from ERWT tweets? I guess so. And I guess is supposed to reassure advertisers they won't end up trying to flog their wares next to a bunch of racism.
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Ads aren't connected to individual tweets, though. They're just at intervals in the timeline. I guess maybe you'd not have an ad right next to a hateful tweet? Just like, ten tweets down, that'll be fine with everyone
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One scalp wasn't enough https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1593412266753409024
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If you eat the victorious lettuce do you gain its power? Perhaps they should branch out and go for a BLT of ultimate power.
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I think jeremy vine ate the liz truss lettuce on channel 5.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Or he's saying they will remove ads from hate speech tweets so whilst they will host it they won't gain financial ad reward from doing so. You're right that he likely thinks that this makes twitter look good being able to take the high road and say they don't 'make money from hate speech,' but twitter doesn't put ads on posts individually like Youtube does. It inserts them into the feed. This means users won't be disincentivised from posting hate speech, because twitter is not a source of income, it's a driver to attract eyes to things that do make users money, like websites or youtube or online stores. You don't make per-view ad revenue from videos on twitter, which is why his offer to pay content creators to come to twitter was absolutely deranged. It means advertisers will still have their ads appears alongside hate speech, unless he's saying bigoted tweets will never appear on the same screen load as an ad, and even then if twitter becomes more of a cesspit of hate speech advertisers won't want to be on the site at all. And it doesn't make twitter look virtuous for not making money from hate speech, because either the advertiser leaves, or they stay and they make money regardless. The very presence of hate speech on twitter means advertisers supporting it. It really feels like he's pulled a Youtube term out of his arse that doesn't really apply here.
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Angepain posted:Ads aren't connected to individual tweets, though. They're just at intervals in the timeline. I guess maybe you'd not have an ad right next to a hateful tweet? Just like, ten tweets down, that'll be fine with everyone Unironically yes, or at least, fine with everyone that Musk wants to satisfy. The thing advertisers care about is whether someone can take a screenshot of their ad next to a racism. As long as it's at least a screen height away they want those ads there because chuds buy stuff (sometimes they even buy your stuff so they can destroy it performatively!). If this was the only change Musk made he could have probably threaded the needle of enabling his fans hate speech while satisfying advertisers. Of course he's decided to crash twitter into the ground for good measure so I expect a lot of advertisers will be sceptical he can follow through with his "no screenshots of your ad next to a racism" policy.
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Anyone fancy a job? You don't need to understand anything about the law, but there's a backlog of proles to process https://twitter.com/DominicRaab/status/1593579778371633153
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Reveilled posted:Unironically yes, or at least, fine with everyone that Musk wants to satisfy. The thing advertisers care about is whether someone can take a screenshot of their ad next to a racism. As long as it's at least a screen height away they want those ads there because chuds buy stuff (sometimes they even buy your stuff so they can destroy it performatively!). If this was the only change Musk made he could have probably threaded the needle of enabling his fans hate speech while satisfying advertisers. Of course he's decided to crash twitter into the ground for good measure so I expect a lot of advertisers will be sceptical he can follow through with his "no screenshots of your ad next to a racism" policy. arms race between the person with the longest screen and the twitter racism yardstick
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fuctifino posted:Anyone fancy a job? You don't need to understand anything about the law, but there's a backlog of proles to process would love to see them extend this to northern ireland
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