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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
even the countries that were regular victims of famines where tens of millions died made feeding guests absolutely central to their culture so it really does speak to the Swedes moral depravity that they’ve been so well off for so long but couldn’t bother to hand their guest a sandwich

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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Al-Saqr posted:

even the countries that were regular victims of famines where tens of millions died made feeding guests absolutely central to their culture so it really does speak to the Swedes moral depravity that they’ve been so well off for so long but couldn’t bother to hand their guest a sandwich

i just read some articles about this as it's the first I'm hearing. Lol their excuse is "it's cold so we don't have a lot of food, also Vikings are assholes to anyone who owes them a debt"

maybe instead of being incourtious and leaving your gusts hungry you simply don't keep track of their minor obligations to you? maybe feeding someone dinner actually doesnt entitle you to anything except their company?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Say what you will about the Russians, but even in middle of the Siberian frosts where nothing but ice, death and the howling winds of regrets roam they'll still share half their crackers with polar bears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30xDh8xUQGQ

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Yeah the excuse of "there isn't much food so we have to be careful" is utter bullshit and antihuman. hunter gatherer tribes share tons and they have a lot less resources than sweden. Russians share just like normal people and they have been hosed by famines and weather quite a bit!

sweaden culture feels like if entitled boomers existed for 1000 years and made a culture out of it

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
lenin inviting a soldier hunting him to come out of the rain

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Morbus posted:

Yeah that's fair enough, since so far the only thing that has pushed Russian forces out have been AFU counter-offensives.

However:

1.) Those Russian gains were made, as I've said before, under very different circumstances than exist now, and mostly before Ukrainian mobilization really got going. Taking them back may prove to be very different.

2.) The Ukrainians are much more committed to the war than the Russians are. How effective will strategic bombing actually be at neutralizing the AFU on its own? Historically, even after the largest and most effective air campaigns, regular forces still had to be defeated on the ground. They are probably the last thing to be affected by bombing cities and infrastructure.

3.) If Ukraine is being propped up and resupplied by the west, bombing Ukraine can only accomplish so much

4.) Waiting for strategic bombing to wear down the AFU indirectly is a slow process, whereas AFU counter-offensives need to be dealt with now.

So on balance, it seems Russia needs to address its mobilization problem, or these bombing campaigns will be a palliative measure at best.

I don't think we are that far apart to be honest of the issue. Yeah, the best opportunity for the Russians was the opening phase and the fact that there was no ready reserve or really an alternative plan is a massive if not historic failure. The Russians are going to have a tougher time taking territory than back then, it is possible but it isn't going to be relatively easy driving.

As far as commitment, the Ukrainians are in a war of national defense, but at the same time, I think morale isn't as strong as one would think. During early summer, a lot of units in the Donbass were refusing to fight in part because they weren't being given equipment and there wasn't a strong commitment to fight for specifically the Donbass itself. I would say morale can be highly dependent on circumstances (Ukrainian morale is going to be high after Kherson) and the Russians can't really walk away from this fight either.

It isn't being completely supplied by the West though and local resouces are being used, and I believe one goal strategic bombing is to debilitate the rail stock that uses electricity, and probably then target diesel locomotives to deprive the Ukrainians their main source of supply. Obviously, they can't take out every truck and if you have a land border you can get supplies but they could make it a lot less efficient.

Strategic bombing is slow, but Ukrainian offensives haven't been that quick either, it took nearly 3 months for the Kherson offensive to develop. There is some time sensitivity obviously but it may be something similar to this state across the winter.

Also, temperatures are rapidly dropping in the region, and freezing is already occurring to an early frost.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://mobile.twitter.com/kos_data/status/1593712498544369667

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Rutibex posted:

sweaden culture feels like if entitled boomers existed for 1000 years and made a culture out of it

100% accurate

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

sure why not!

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
Just rename it the association of serbia and east asian nations, duh

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



Rutibex posted:

Yeah the excuse of "there isn't much food so we have to be careful" is utter bullshit and antihuman. hunter gatherer tribes share tons and they have a lot less resources than sweden. Russians share just like normal people and they have been hosed by famines and weather quite a bit!

sweaden culture feels like if entitled boomers existed for 1000 years and made a culture out of it
Millimeter justice [millimeterrättvisa]
Swedish
Noun
1. Justice to an absurd degree.
Come on now, you can't argue for millimeter justice.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Asian NATO drake no
European ASEAN drake yes

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Al-Saqr posted:

even the countries that were regular victims of famines where tens of millions died made feeding guests absolutely central to their culture so it really does speak to the Swedes moral depravity that they’ve been so well off for so long but couldn’t bother to hand their guest a sandwich

You say this but you should count yourself lucky you've never been invited to have Swedish food.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/JayTharappel/status/1593874421411762177

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Lostconfused posted:

Yeah quadcopter drone thing, it's the hot new thing in this war.

Okay so the mentally disabled racist skull guy is flying around dropping grenades on trenches, but it's not Ride of the Valkyries playing, it's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqff1F0Ijn0&t=235s

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Leftist politicians should have been shouting this for decades already. Oh well, fash get to be the primary anti-neoliberals now. Can't imagine this will be a problem.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

Orange Devil posted:

Leftist politicians should have been shouting this for decades already. Oh well, fash get to be the primary anti-neoliberals now. Can't imagine this will be a problem.

You'd actually need leftist politicians for that though lol

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

Orange Devil posted:

Leftist politicians should have been shouting this for decades already. Oh well, fash get to be the primary anti-neoliberals now. Can't imagine this will be a problem.

liberals will double down on immigration but once they see there are non-whites in their country taking up government resources, they’ll defund government services and end the welfare state. the chuds win every time

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Orange Devil posted:

Leftist politicians should have been shouting this for decades already. Oh well, fash get to be the primary anti-neoliberals now. Can't imagine this will be a problem.

Remember what happened to Corbyn and he was as lukewarm as it got?

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Lostconfused posted:

It's kind of the big topic of today but Russians are also surprisingly blase about it. They aren't even blaming the Ukrainians for it but the ones that decided to surrender.

Well, the MOD is blaming the Ukrainians obviously. Doesn't surprise me if that's the take on telegram though.

The really pathetic but not surprising part is people coming out to do the "it's not a warcrime" takes. All war is crime, but trying to find loopholes so that summary executing POWs isn't one is some real big brained stuff.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Orange Devil posted:

Leftist politicians should have been shouting this for decades already. Oh well, fash get to be the primary anti-neoliberals now. Can't imagine this will be a problem.

It's not that they haven't. It's just that they get stomped, because they might actually mean it while the fash obviously doesn't

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...%20on%20Friday.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Al Jazeera posted:

Russia has urged international organisations to condemn the alleged execution of Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian soldiers.

“We demand that international organisations condemn and thoroughly investigate this shocking crime. No atrocity committed by Ukrainian military units will remain unpunished,”
said Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova, as reported by TASS news agency.

“Ukraine is flagrantly violating international humanitarian law, specifically the 1949 Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War and international human rights laws,” Zakharova added.

Her comment came following the circulation of a video on social media which shows, the Kremlin says, the execution of 11 Russian soldiers taken prisoners in the eastern Luhansk region.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Al Jazeera posted:

Peace in Ukraine will “only” be possible if the country’s 1991 borders are restored, a senior aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said.

“There will be peace when we destroy the Russian army in Ukraine and reach the borders of 1991,” Andriy Yermak, the head of the presidential administration, wrote on the Telegram messaging app.

Such statements reflect Ukraine’s toughening stance on peace talks with Russia after evidence of atrocities committed by Russian soldiers emerged in April and since Ukrainian forces have made a number of successful counteroffensives in the northeast and south of the country.

Zelenskyy had previously demanded that Moscow’s troops withdraw to the pre-February invasion borders, which do not include Russian-annexed Crimea and eastern Donbas.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
1991, the year history ended

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
drat, didn't expect Ukraine's peace proposal was dissolution of independence and reforming the union with 1991 borders.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Corky Romanovsky posted:

drat, didn't expect Ukraine's peace proposal was dissolution of independence and reforming the union with 1991 borders.

Bringing back the USSR seems like a good compromise.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

genericnick posted:

Bringing back the USSR seems like a good compromise.

we accept your conditions, no backsies

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

genericnick posted:

Bringing back the USSR seems like a good compromise.

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008


So they're giving up Crimea? That's reasonable

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Leandros posted:

So they're giving up Crimea? That's reasonable

they know not what they do

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/DanBoeckner/status/1593549271134982144

speng31b
May 8, 2010


hes coming back to sa

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

speng31b posted:

hes coming back to sa

Mad respect for Elon killing the careers of a million "journalists" just like him.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Russia should blow up Reddit's servers. This will force Ukraine to the negotiating table in hours. It's One Weird Trick that Just Might Work.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


he literally could have just started a blog

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Another day another video on twitter of Ukrainian soldiers executing unarmed people

Slava

speng31b
May 8, 2010

paul_soccer12 posted:

Another day another video on twitter of Ukrainian soldiers executing unarmed people

Slava

libs love it when the good guys do war crimes

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

an orc is a dangerous creature even without arms. Have you seen the teeth on those things

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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Not fun to think about what they must do to "collaborators" in the regions they seize

What would you expect from the Bandera is our Father people I guess

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