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Kaldaris
Aug 10, 2008

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Awesome possum!

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Psyker "kill a boss only using brainburst while nobody else touchs the boss on difficulty 3+" full on requires a coordinated friend group to get it done and it can still fail if a stray bullet touches the boss while you try to solo it.

I've been actively trying to get Cliffhanger and the force of the push is so utterly piddly that I'm lucky if I knock, at most, 10 or so off, and gently caress me if they take longer than 2 seconds to fall and die, because then it won't count.

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Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

Kaldaris posted:

I've been actively trying to get Cliffhanger and the force of the push is so utterly piddly that I'm lucky if I knock, at most, 10 or so off, and gently caress me if they take longer than 2 seconds to fall and die, because then it won't count.

Yeah that is another one that seems rough, you would need a full horde to surround you on a narrow bridge.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

I think the ammo bar is actually just the magazine size divided by total ammo count... As in literally 31/190.

Edit: Maybe not as 31/190 is ~16% and that bar looks closer to ~25 full.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Internet Explorer posted:

I take no pleasure in reporting that Zealot is the new Elf. I'm sorry.

Also, I don't know how I feel about the Zealot having the low HP buffs that VT2 Zealot has. In this game, you can't see the THP generation so you don't easily know that's the build they're going for and aren't just some idiot running past healing. And then add things like they have to avoid dropped AoE healing. I dunno, it just doesn't seem like that great of game design.

You know, separately from the fact that it seems like everyone who just WWWWWs ahead is a Zealot right now.

Had a pubbie proudly declare "i get buffs on low health" right before a heretic captain boss fight, they went down during the second shield break and didn't get recovered until the final bit of health.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Has anyone had the twitch drop actually show up in their game inventory? As far as i can tell everything is linked properly but theres no skin in the appearances section in the game.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Tried the braced autogun and still don't like it on vet, although midrange the damage really is incredible.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Popete posted:

I think the ammo bar is actually just the magazine size divided by total ammo count... As in literally 31/190.

Edit: Maybe not as 31/190 is ~16% and that bar looks closer to ~25 full.

As far as I can tell each weapon type has base stats and then the bars show how much that one deviates from the base stats, but since the base stats or the actual values aren't shown it's pretty meaningless unless comparing it against another copy of the exact same weapon.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

deep dish peat moss posted:

Kinda hoping cosmetics get better too.

These are the pants/boots I unlocked for being level 10:


These are the pants/boots I unlocked for hitting a sniper with a grenade from over 40m away:


The only difference is that the boots in one are very, very slightly shinier.

The text on the right scroll is different.

Exodee
Mar 30, 2011

Damp and depressing.
It must be a goon in its
natural habitat!

deep dish peat moss posted:

Headhunter Autogun = trash tier.
Eh, the triple-shot version of this is legit as a special killer while still being decent at everything else. Not a fan of the MkVIII though, which has a slower double-shot.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Jerkface posted:

Has anyone had the twitch drop actually show up in their game inventory? As far as i can tell everything is linked properly but theres no skin in the appearances section in the game.

I did. It's only on the basic Kantrel lasrifles AFAIK but also lots of people are reporting not getting it.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I have the ugly winter lasgun skin and can confirm it works. I really like the pace of the game, swapping between ranged and melee and the classes that exist.

But I'd love to skip ahead two years and get more content. I guess this is a long post about being butthurt in regards to launch only having 4 classes.

Exodee
Mar 30, 2011

Damp and depressing.
It must be a goon in its
natural habitat!
Oh baby, I just unlocked the Eviscerator and this thing... well it shreds :black101:

https://i.imgur.com/MDUu3Wf.mp4
It two shots Maulers too, well kinda since you gotta get stuck in twice

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
That's a zealot weapon?

Exodee
Mar 30, 2011

Damp and depressing.
It must be a goon in its
natural habitat!
I've heard that it's Zealot exclusive yeah, but don't quote me on that.

The one-handed chainsword is pretty good too though, just doesn't have quite the same reach and its special doesn't cleave like the Eviscerator does in that video

Pasha
Nov 9, 2017
Wow, some of these weapons are really bad ...

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Much like vermintide, I don't like the one handed swords they throw at you.

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

I'm only at level 10 but yeah some of the guns feel terrible at low level. I'm hoping once their power level is maxed out and you get a good roll on the important stats that will change. Hopefully crafting unlocks soon? Or is that a launchday thing? I think we all forget how weak we were at the start of vermintide.

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
I didn't have many crashes initially but it's insane now, I can barely even load into a map

ArchRanger
Mar 19, 2007
I'm tired of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with 'em there.

Popete posted:

The text on the right scroll is different.

The scrolls are part of the chest piece, not the pants I think. I have both of those pants cosmetics and neither one has scrolls.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Much like vermintide, I don't like the one handed swords they throw at you.
I will say that I'm actually getting the most mileage out of my combat knife with Sharpshooter, can dodge for days.

Orv
May 4, 2011

terrorist ambulance posted:

I didn't have many crashes initially but it's insane now, I can barely even load into a map

Yeah my crashes were initially fixed by turning off DLSS, then they came back with a vengeance until I turned worker cores in the launcher down to 4.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
So how would we make equivalents with none-specialist enemies in darktide vs vermintide?

Maulers = Maulers, right down to the head being better armored.
Ragers = Berserkers, the armored version makes for a good elite version.
Zombies = Skaven slaves
Horny zombies = Norscan Zombie
Yellow shirts = more annoying and numerous beastmen archers
Black Armor Melee = Norscan Marauders
Scabs and x3 skullracks = Stormvermin
Ogyns = Chaos warriors


Also it's really weird that the meatgrinder testing area requires you to be level 30 to see every enemy inside it to test things.

ZombyDog posted:

I will say that I'm actually getting the most mileage out of my combat knife with Sharpshooter, can dodge for days.

Combat knife is basically the daggers from vermintide2 and it is very, very good, make a post about how much I liked it too.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Do chaos space marines come up eventually? I hope they manage to make them more than punching bags with bolters if so.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

So how would we make equivalents with none-specialist enemies in darktide vs vermintide?

Ogyns = Chaos warriors

There are five types of ogryn.

Crushers are the heavily armored ones with two handed hammers. They are the equivalent of chaos warriors but easier to dodge and much more vulnerable to stagger/knockdown. They are high-armor on all body parts.

Reapers are ogryns with heavy stubbers (machine guns) and armor on their arms. You need one person to draw their fire and someone else to kill them, or else wait for their long reload. Their shooting is continuous, high-damage, and knocks you back. They suck and can be a group wiper.

Bulwarks have big riot shields and armor on their arms. That's their whole deal, don't hit the shield.

Plague ogryn are bosses that appear randomly in zones. They look like Rhino, the Spider-Man villain. Dodge (sidestep) their punches and overheads, block or backdodge their stomp, shoot them in the head.

Ogryn Skullcrushers are the most valuable members of your team, please shoot specials for them so they can cheerfully kill all the hordes for you.

JBP posted:

Do chaos space marines come up eventually? I hope they manage to make them more than punching bags with bolters if so.

Nope. The closest is the assassination boss, who's still just basically a guy, just a well-armed guy. There's another fan-favorite Chaos enemy though, Beasts of Nurgle, a boss like the Plague Ogryn.

Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Nov 20, 2022

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

There's a sixth type which is the type that is on your team and eat all the bullets you shoot down a hallway just by existing and being large.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

deep dish peat moss posted:

There's a sixth type which is the type that is on your team and eat all the bullets you shoot down a hallway just by existing and being large.

When those ones run through your body and take up the whole screen as you line up a sniper they really ramp up the difficulty.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

deep dish peat moss posted:

There's a sixth type which is the type that is on your team and eat all the bullets you shoot down a hallway just by existing and being large.

rude

Pigbottom
Sep 23, 2007

Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time.
This game is amazingly fun and save for a few fails when trying to match-make I found almost none of the problems other people did.
Still, with that said, everything seems so unpolished and screams "needs another one or possibly two months in the oven". I have no idea how they are going to make it to release in 10 days.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Cease to Hope actually did not forget that type at all, and they are the fifth type, and I was so hasty to burn ogryn that I read their post afterward.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Pigbottom posted:

This game is amazingly fun and save for a few fails when trying to match-make I found almost none of the problems other people did.
Still, with that said, everything seems so unpolished and screams "needs another one or possibly two months in the oven". I have no idea how they are going to make it to release in 10 days.

Yeah same. The menus and stuff are absolutely terrible. It's riven with small but irritating bugs. Then there are the large glaring bugs. We were getting booted from games a lot today and it came in waves. I understand they're tinkering in the background but it feels rickety. Nothing I do removes the cursor from the middle of the screen.

Gameplay whips though.

wedgie deliverer
Oct 2, 2010

When the game works its very fun. Unfortunately I can't get a single run to go smoothly without major lag, disconnects, or other shenanigans.

Baiard
Nov 7, 2011

it's good for you
I was getting crashes on mission load until I turned DLSS off, and then intermittent crashes throughout the game afterward that were fixed by reducing ragdolls, visible enemy damage, and ragdoll interaction.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Ok I am really getting tired of the one teammate who is full on sprinting thru the entire level like this is some speed run record.

Psyker
Jun 21, 2004

[Binge and] Purge the xenos!

Pigbottom posted:

This game is amazingly fun and save for a few fails when trying to match-make I found almost none of the problems other people did.
Still, with that said, everything seems so unpolished and screams "needs another one or possibly two months in the oven". I have no idea how they are going to make it to release in 10 days.

That's the fun part - they won't!

IT's basically a meme with Fatshark that their games are super fun and super broken, and will always be several degrees of broken.

If they get the MP matchmaking and servers under control we're good.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Popete posted:

Ok I am really getting tired of the one teammate who is full on sprinting thru the entire level like this is some speed run record.

yeah this is a real problem right now. very annoying.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Internet Explorer posted:

yeah this is a real problem right now. very annoying.

Wait until this is on game pass.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011


I have seen a end of mission weapon gift maybe twice, why would I ever take this? Curios are also cheaper to buy then weapons.

5% Chance after 5% chance of a reward at end of mission to find a better Curio that has a bonus that will actually help you during the mission.

ArchRanger
Mar 19, 2007
I'm tired of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with 'em there.

deep dish peat moss posted:

There's a sixth type which is the type that is on your team and eat all the bullets you shoot down a hallway just by existing and being large.

I dunno if it's the case for every ranged weapon but the Infantry Lasgun at least shoots straight through teammates. I've killed a few specials while testing firing at them through teammates tonight after I did it on accident the first time.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Played a bit of Ogryn. On the one hand it is fun being a big bully knocking people down. On the other their dodge doesn't seem so good compared to Zealot, and I just realized the Brawler voice is basically Shrek.

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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpA4FONs2Jo


played a bunch over the weekend, the game has been surprisingly stable save for a couple hiccups, but I definitely have to start looking into upgrading my PC big time so I can experience the the environment at full with perfect frame rates.

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