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Oh man I forgot how much I hated the SW shotgun too. I don’t know why but I very recently tried replaying SW and it’s an immensely hosed up gun. Maybe it’s the weird reload every four shots and maybe it’s that it doesn’t one-shot basic ninjas on Who Wants Wang. Yeah SW sucks forget about it entirely. Play Duke if you want but Blood really is the standout of the Build engine.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:No way dude. Blood is for advanced build engine players. Starting with Duke then Shadow Warrior, them Blood is the way to do it I started with Blood and went back to Duke 3d and let me tell you, the drop in quality and interactivity was pretty stark. Duke was still a good time but there is just so much more going on in Blood, usually for the better. Eventually I'll stop playing DRG and get around to Shadow Warrior.
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A month ago there was an auction-site which had certain listings that people interpreted as Tommy Tallerico selling some of the collections he had at his "crib". I only remember the mention of a whole lot of classic Spider-Man comics. This would never happened if he had just gotten that Roblox money!
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Sir Lemming posted:I mean HL2 was basically why we all installed Steam in the first place, right? Orange Box for me so...technically?
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I just did an all weapon parts hard run on cultic and squeezed in under 90 minutes by 4 seconds and change. I think once I go back to casual I could eschew a lot of stuff mostly parts and secrets, and especially imbue skulls which seem to take a while for out of the way they are. Someone's beating it under 15 minutes now by popping out the level and stuff. It's insane. I knew the game was going to have a solid speedruns but I didn't figure people would break it that fast.
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Turin Turambar posted:So this video isn't really related to retro FPS (nor it's really about Roblox) but somehow, I thought it would be appreciated here, as we are able to appreciate self aggrandizing lying douchebags on the videogame industry (hi Randy) edit: and to Randy's credit, this guy seems to be in another magnitude of tall tales. I still remember Randy's preview videos for both Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 and Hell's Highway that both had lots of graphics and features that didn't make it into either game. Randy's BS started before a lot of people realize.
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The Tallarico stuff goes on and on and on. The funny thing is he’d still come off as a massive douche if it wasn’t all lies. Messiah is such a fun idea that I wish would get remade. The gameplay wasn’t very polished and it’s all too frantic. Ross’s game dungeon covered it a couple of years ago and it gets obnoxiously hard towards the end. I haven’t made it even halfway to though before losing interest and doing something else. https://youtu.be/PRY3Ze7xv6A
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I watched a speedrun for it on a whim a few months ago. I remember it kinda having a cult following? Probably would have eaten my computers alive at the time
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Good soup! posted:Day of Defeat 3.1b was better than the retail release I share your opinion. DoD 3.1b was the best version imo.
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verbal enema posted:Messiah ftw
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bbcisdabomb posted:I started with Blood and went back to Duke 3d and let me tell you, the drop in quality and interactivity was pretty stark. Yeah Blood is plainly better than Duke but you can't knock that the most important part -- the fragging of alien bastards -- is still pretty choice in Duke 3D. Good guns, good music to jam to, lots of explosions. It's a game that clearly came first but it's not bad at all.
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I remember seeing Messiah in a game magazine as a kid thinking it looked way more detailed than most games. I finally decided to look up some old articles to see how it works. It uses "real-time deformation and tessellation", the RT-DAT engine. It's pretty funny how they were hyping it up like it'll be the only engine games ever need https://www.gamespot.com/articles/perry-sees-the-messiah/1100-2466967/ https://www.ign.com/articles/1999/05/11/messiah-3 Some very 90s marketing, reaching Mmolyneux levels here quote:Unique graphics: Each 3D model has approximately 500 times more polygons that most games. Characters have real skin that stretches over their bones. RT-DAT technology (Real-time Deformation and Tessellation) enables a fully scalable game - it looks great on today's PC and PlayStation hardware, but as technology improves, Messiah is the first game that will automatically keep up. (In other words, it'll look great on PS2, heh heh.) quote:"In Messiah, instead of boxy looking characters, this technology will allow for real smooth breasts and real smooth backsides, and you will also see the skin stretch and the body move. That will be done in software and not actually some cheat or animation. That is the software saying that if your butt was to move up a little bit then the cheek would compress. That's the type of real movement we are looking for. We have built-in tools to tell each little piece of the skin's surface how it should react to different movements and that's what makes this technology exciting." Looking at a video it doesn't even look that good, there's definitely an emphasis on character detail but their tessellation system doesn't look great in motion. HolyKrap fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Nov 19, 2022 |
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I mean blood is great but very very idiosyncratic. Duke is cringe as gently caress at times but the gameplay is very straightforward. Also as great as "I live again" is an opening line, it doesn't really compare to "drat, those alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my ride." It sums up the game all right there in the first few seconds. You had a spaceship, you're tough enough to survive a crashing spaceship, there are alien bastards, and you're gonna have to make em pay.
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real smooth breasts and real smooth backsides
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90s Cringe Rock posted:real smooth breasts and real smooth backsides no need to sign your posts
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HolyKrap posted:I remember seeing Messiah in a game magazine as a kid thinking it looked way more detailed than most games. I finally decided to look up some old articles to see how it works. It uses "real-time deformation and tessellation", the RT-DAT engine. It's pretty funny how they were hyping it up like it'll be the only engine games ever need Yeah, pretty much the only thing about Messiah was the engine, which could do some legit good looking things in screenshots, unfortunately in motion you ended up with every character constantly squirming and twitching, which was very offputting. Very creepy way of promoting it, too. In terms of gameplay, they just straight up didn't have any ideas beyond the possession system, which was admittedly pretty cool, but not enough to carry the entire game, so in the end, you ended up with a long stretches of terminally dull platforming in dark, industrial environs. Not the most fun. The Shiny/Planet Moon games were all pretty weird, but Messiah is the one I'd least like to see remade. I'd much prefer Giants: Citizen Kabuto remake that doesn't just grind to a halt like a third into the game or even just go full ham and remake the insanity that was MDK.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I mean blood is great but very very idiosyncratic. Duke is cringe as gently caress at times but the gameplay is very straightforward. Hollywood Holocaust is one of the all time greats as far as I’m concerned. Perfectly encapsulates the entirety of Duke in one little map. Awesome explosions right at the start, aliens in the streets, shotgun and rocket launcher, the jetpack, badass music, all the poo poo to fiddle with, it’s awesome.
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RyokoTK posted:Hollywood Holocaust is one of the all time greats as far as I’m concerned. Perfectly encapsulates the entirety of Duke in one little map. Awesome explosions right at the start, aliens in the streets, shotgun and rocket launcher, the jetpack, badass music, all the poo poo to fiddle with, it’s awesome. And it takes place in a porn theater.
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Capilarean posted:Yeah, pretty much the only thing about Messiah was the engine, which could do some legit good looking things in screenshots, unfortunately in motion you ended up with every character constantly squirming and twitching, which was very offputting. Very creepy way of promoting it, too. Somehow remembered which magazine I read, the december 1999 edition of gamepro. Even back then they were a little unsure about it! "The characters undulate, which is a little distracting and disturbing"  https://archive.org/details/GamePro_Issue_135_December_1999_U/page/n95/mode/2up This was around the time Quake 3 released, which has pretty drat good environmental detail and looks nice even today. RT-DAT seems cool for the time but Shiny put way too much faith in it for the hardware they were trying to run it on. They got like PS2 characters in N64 environments
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Anyone try this mod? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqYe_nu5zU Also: is there actually a good Painkiller game outside the first one?
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Mordja posted:Also: is there actually a good Painkiller game outside the first one?
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RyokoTK posted:Hollywood Holocaust is one of the all time greats as far as I’m concerned. Perfectly encapsulates the entirety of Duke in one little map. Awesome explosions right at the start, aliens in the streets, shotgun and rocket launcher, the jetpack, badass music, all the poo poo to fiddle with, it’s awesome. HolyKrap posted:but Shiny put way too much faith in it for the hardware they were trying to run it on. EDIT: Oh, also: A new update to the Selaco demo is landing on December 16. No new levels, but lots of improvements and upgrades to what's there, including proper gamepad and Steam Deck support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECS1fBJMgpQ
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The Kins posted:That seems to be a common trend with their 3D games. I think they were trying to do NURBS on a PS2 in Enter the Matrix... They managed to pull off normal mapping on a PS2 for Path of Neo.
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I just did a hard run through of Op4 and I swear to god they changed it in some way. I've got hundreds of hours playing the campaign and while it's been a while I could remember pretty much everything but I'm pretty sure they hosed with it some way. Everything is just "off". It's also way harder than I remember though that could just as well be because the base HL weapons all seem kinda meh and I just came over from cultic where they're all pretty good. Hard to make a SPAS-12 so lame
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Milo and POTUS posted:I just did a hard run through of Op4 and I swear to god they changed it in some way. I've got hundreds of hours playing the campaign and while it's been a while I could remember pretty much everything but I'm pretty sure they hosed with it some way. Everything is just "off". It's also way harder than I remember though that could just as well be because the base HL weapons all seem kinda meh and I just came over from cultic where they're all pretty good. Hard to make a SPAS-12 so lame Dunno about things being changed but I can confirm that OP4 has always been fairly difficult. I've played through easy and normal on both HL and OP4 and OP4 is definitely harder for various reasons. I always found myself with less ammunition most of the time in OP4 as well. However if you ever talk smack about base HL weapons being meh again I'll. I'll. I'll cry. 
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I still play HLDM (almost 1500 hours). I'm allowed to criticize the weapons :P Honestly though the more exotic weapons are great. Tau and egon are tits, it's a solid rocket launcher and the crossbow is insanely OP on open areas and even corridors if you can quickscope. I just don't like the smg and shotgun. The desert eagle in op4 is great though and I think I like the weapons more overall in it. The egg launcher is so cute and it owns most things with one or 2 direct hits. It's kinda a shame the whole thing feels non-canon
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Milo and POTUS posted:I still play HLDM (almost 1500 hours). I'm allowed to criticize the weapons :P After HL's MP5, Op4's SAW felt like a true machine gun. EDIT: I mean, I guess that's because it was. But after previous hours of plinking dudes with a 9mm submachine gun, it felt great to unload on something with an actual machine gun. EDIT 2: And no the M2 machine gun emplacements in HL don't (completely) count.
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The saw is so good at breaking the game lol. I don't even speedrun it like a pro and I'll use it to boost jumps and stuff. Rifle is fun too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBm0FP1Rm2g&t=716s Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 20, 2022 |
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The arsenal in Half-Life plus Opposing Force was so good. Perfectly on theme with a good mix of security, military, weird science, and alien weapons. It's the variety and quality of weaponry that every FPS should aspire to, and Half-Life's weapon category selection system was genius. Unfortunately, thanks to Opposing Force being so good, I used to have hope for Gearbox projects. Needless to say, that optimism went away lmao.
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Gearbox CAN make decent games. The Borderlands series is good at what it's trying to do, even if that thing isn't to my taste a lot of the time. They just happen to also make plenty of poo poo (and then try to pretend that actually it was someone else that made the poo poo).
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Full parts run cultic, now just under 1:23. Hard too. Even had leftovers that I didn't even bother with in ritual chamber since I'm literally gonna be in there for 50 seconds or so. Means I can start skipping some and if I do it on casual I can go without the imbued skulls and stuff too. I see no way I'll be able to do all the truly sequence breaking stuff (other than the bridge in the mine town) but I might be able to knock it down to sub 1 hour. Funny enough I used to hate the crypts the most but now I appreciate how fast it is once you know what you're doing
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Milo and POTUS posted:Full parts run cultic, now just under 1:23. Hard too. Even had leftovers that I didn't even bother with in ritual chamber since I'm literally gonna be in there for 50 seconds or so. Means I can start skipping some and if I do it on casual I can go without the imbued skulls and stuff too. I see no way I'll be able to do all the truly sequence breaking stuff (other than the bridge in the mine town) but I might be able to knock it down to sub 1 hour. Funny enough I used to hate the crypts the most but now I appreciate how fast it is once you know what you're doing Do you do much with Survival mode? I beat the game comfortably on Extreme, but I've never been able to make it past Round ~6 (or so) on Extreme in Survival. It just gets nuts so drat fast. EDIT: Although I guess I have the #5 and #29 scores in "Graveyard" on Very Hard & Extreme, respectively, so I guess there's not a lot of people getting significantly further (outside of exploits). Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Nov 20, 2022 |
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