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Did one run with The Hermit the other day. Finally ready to try this Downfall out... Died in Act 1 before I even got to the boss. Going to take some information gathering. Man this game is just the best ever.
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Any mobile game recommendations while I'm waiting for this game to get fixed on Android 13? For whatever reason it crashes when switching to another app
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Nov 19, 2022 22:58
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Gyshall posted:Any mobile game recommendations while I'm waiting for this game to get fixed on Android 13? For whatever reason it crashes when switching to another app Slice and Dice. Goon made game where you take a party of five through a run of 20 fights as you accumulate loot and promote your classes. The demo is free with a one time cost to unlock the full game. It has no micro transactions. The only downside is there is currently no iOS port, but since you're running Android that's not an issue.
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Nov 19, 2022 23:25
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Gyshall posted:Any mobile game recommendations while I'm waiting for this game to get fixed on Android 13? For whatever reason it crashes when switching to another app Seconding slice and dice, the game play loop lends itself to shorter sessions on mobile as well.
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Nov 20, 2022 00:00
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Thirding Slice & Dice!
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Nov 20, 2022 01:09
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Metal Meltdown posted:Slice and Dice. Goon made game where you take a party of five through a run of 20 fights as you accumulate loot and promote your classes. Slice and Dice is goon made? That's awesome, I've been really enjoying it and this makes it even better.
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Nov 20, 2022 02:01
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Just got Silent to A17 by beating Time Eater. Got Happy Flower from Neow, took Bouncing Flask on Floor 1 and got a Corpse Explosion in an early question mark. Never found Catalyst and it was a close call a few times. I even got down to 1 hit point after 3 Slavers. I also ended up with Sundial and Lantern so there were some fights I started with 7 energy and I had an Adrenaline if I needed more.
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Nov 20, 2022 05:35
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Been puttering around with a few runs after not really playing the game for a couple years and just won (for only my third time!) with a scuffed-as-hell A20 Silent run! You know it was scuffed because I took Tiny House at the end of Act 2   Buying Ice Cream at the start of Act 2 with no additional energy generation ended up being extremely important, Pocketwatch is still supremely underrated, and Dead Branch saved my rear end from certain death at least five separate times. Crazy run, absolutely a blast. Was very amused that I got both Kunai and Ornamental Fan on a run with Pocketwatch, but I ended up getting some value out of them anyway. Looking back at it apparently I took 0 damage throughout all of Act 3 until the bosses, but every fight was tense as hell. Slay the Spire is good, y'all.
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Nov 20, 2022 07:01
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A20s double bosses for Defect is loving me up because time eater kills my claw decks and awakened one kills my power decks and beyond that Im out of ideas for defect.
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Nov 20, 2022 15:55
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Gyshall posted:Any mobile game recommendations while I'm waiting for this game to get fixed on Android 13? For whatever reason it crashes when switching to another app Not sure I'd hold my breath. Last updated April 2021 and a bunch of bugs and glitches have been ignored. I can't believe the long sync on load has never been addressed. edit: maybe time to transfer my save back to PC and I can just stream it when playing at home.
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Nov 20, 2022 16:45
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massive spider posted:A20s double bosses for Defect is loving me up because time eater kills my claw decks and awakened one kills my power decks and beyond that Im out of ideas for defect. Inserter mass orb decks
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Nov 20, 2022 22:41
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Sometimes the solution to double-boss can be as simple as sitting on a potion that will give you the boost you need should the worst-case second boss pop up. Like, maybe a focus potion will boost your frost orb block enough to counter Awakened One's strength buffs. Maybe a combo like Clockwork Souvenir and a flex potion (so that you keep the +5 STR) will boost your damage enough to take down Time Eater before their strength gets out of hand. Maybe a capacity potion lets you hold enough frost orbs that, along with your Focus source, you can build up enough block that Time Eater basically can't hurt you and you can whittle them down. Watching high-level streamers is neat for this sort of thing, because they'll make decks that can win against the "hard counter" boss, often by doing something clever/resourceful.
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Nov 21, 2022 01:29
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If Awakened One is killing your power decks you simply don't have enough powers.  More broadly speaking, if a particular boss totally counters a deck then it's entirely possible your decks aren't as flexible and fleshed out as they really ought to be.
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Nov 21, 2022 16:24
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i have gone from "my deck is hard countered" to "bro look at the top of the map you had a whole rear end act to prepare bro"
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Nov 21, 2022 16:48
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i have gone from "my deck is hard countered" to "bro look at the top of the map you had a whole rear end act to prepare bro" The worst is when you look at the top of the map, see an Act 3 boss who can potentially counter your deck, and remember you took Busted Crown as your Act 2 reward because the other two sucked and you were confident that your deck was complete 
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Nov 21, 2022 17:36
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Also people chuck around "hard countered" way too much. A lot of the time you can still beat Time Eater with shiv decks and Awakened One with power-heavy decks as long as you play them carefully (eg don't play all your powers on the first two turns just because you happened to draw them, and maybe don't play some of them at all)
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Nov 21, 2022 17:42
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Personally, I prefer to build mediocre decks with no plan that lose to the second boss no matter who it is, even if by some miracle they manage to defeat the Act 2 boss.
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Nov 21, 2022 17:44
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nrook posted:Personally, I prefer to build mediocre decks with no plan that lose to the second boss no matter who it is, even if by some miracle they manage to defeat the Act 2 boss. quit giving away all my strategy secrets
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Nov 21, 2022 17:57
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I managed to die with Dead Branch last night because Snecko Eye betrayed me. Very sad.  Praise Snecko, my brethren.
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Nov 21, 2022 18:03
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also potions exist. a lot of them are real good unless you took sozu bro don't take sozu
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Nov 21, 2022 18:04
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Just pick the good cards lol
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Nov 21, 2022 19:13
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theshim posted:I managed to die with Dead Branch last night because Snecko Eye betrayed me. Very sad. If you win with Snecko, Snecko gave you the win. If you lose with Snecko, you would have lost anyway and Snecko just saved you some time. PRAISE SNECKO!
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Nov 21, 2022 19:25
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Both Dead Branch and Snecko can hand you a win, but when Dead Branch does it, I feel like I can take more credit for it, since I chose the exhaust cards, and chose to when exhaust the exhaust cards.
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Nov 21, 2022 19:34
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i feel cheated at my last run never dropping a Rupture so i could get the legendary Rupture + Blue Candle + Curse of the Necronomicon build going, because that one is incredibly fun
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Nov 21, 2022 19:45
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Snecko giveth and Snecko taketh away; blessed be the name of the Snecko
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I finally got my first heartkill on the Silent, but even with like 25+ relics it took a little savescumming to get the spoon relic to save my poison triple card which ended up being the win condition in the end. I think a big issue I have is that I keep forgetting which relics I have, so I end up squandering energy when I have the ice cream relic, etc. Still, a win is a win. I've been frustrated for months now not ever seeing a heartkill, so at least that's off my conscience now. E: picture before killing blow showing my relic collection: 
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Nov 22, 2022 14:03
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Every time I've ever been stuck on an ascension, snecko always broke my losing streak. Snecko was the reason for my first A20 Silent win. I felt like it was cheating so I had to get a 2nd win without it. Also, Downfall is awesome. All the characters are fun, I love how all the events are changed, and everything is OP enough to be fun without being too hard. But I can't get my head around Hexaghost. I feel like advancing your ghostflame is one of the main themes, but doesn't seem strong enough to build around. Soulburn seems powerful, but not as good as poison. There's an exhaust/ethereal/afterlife theme there too but I'm not really sure what it's supposed to do. I just don't seem to know what to build around. I got the Broken Seal once and that was pretty funny but I feel like that's more of a meme, though some of the seals can be useful. I feel like I can just about get all the other characters though. In particular, I love the Automaton and the Gremlins
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I think people are too hard on themselves with Snecko in saying that runs with it are "cheating" or don't count. I know because I am one of those people. Sure you can just blindly do whatever with it in low ascension but up past 18 you absolutely need to draft carefully with it, be very careful with your potions, and honestly be even more careful about elites than you would be without it--you need to be sure you can weather a few bad hands even if you have the cards you need to beat them. Specifically, can you survive a bad first or second hand against Repto? Or maybe not survive, but can you afford taking 40 damage for that relic? Anyway, all I'm saying is that I really don't think it's quite as much of a "now I win" relic as it's made out to be and people should still give themselves credit for winning with it. Praise Snecko.
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Nov 22, 2022 18:41
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A Moose posted:Every time I've ever been stuck on an ascension, snecko always broke my losing streak. Snecko was the reason for my first A20 Silent win. I felt like it was cheating so I had to get a 2nd win without it. Hexaghost is my least favorite Downfall character, for roughly the reasons you describe. There is a LOT of power in those seals, but to extract it, you need a solid defense. Luckily one of the seals gives you more card rewards. If it comes together, I try to milk rewards from seals until one of the act 3 non-scaling fights, then trade in the seals for the Broken Seal. I've had good success with the afterlife recursion theme, and using a few good afterlife cards as an engine. Soulburn, and the basic soulburn card are 90% hot garbage because they suck at front loading and quick AE damage. The best uses for ghostflames that I've found are dancing back and forth for forced ignitions, and figuring out how to ignite the +str one over and over. Overall, the character feels like an over complicated mess without good payoff. All my downfall characters are at A17-20, except hexaghost at A7.
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jetz0r posted:
This is how I feel about most, if not all, of the Downfall characters.
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The Hermit is easily the smoothest experience of any of the Downfall characters, and even then it takes a while to get the hang of how their power scaling works.
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mcvey posted:This is how I feel about most, if not all, of the Downfall characters. I think Slime Boss, Snecko, and Automaton are pretty simple overall. Or at least only about as complicated as the base game characters. Gremlin Mob, Guardian, Champ, Hermit and Hexaghost are the ones that feel way too finicky to me
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Gremlin Mob is really fun IMO. I always just draft around hulking out one gremlin tho. Wizard and fat gremlin both have some fun builds.
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Gremlins are super fun, mostly because of Wiz and bonus strength from angry gremlin. If you can get a multi hit attack, then you can do some crazy poo poo. Or get bonus strength and a bunch of shivs on the sneaky gremlin. Gremlins are capable of some absolutely nasty burst turns. It also seems like there's a bunch of support for the fat gremlin spamming weak on everything with shivs. Gremlins seem to be about being able to swap to the right gremlin at the right time. Also being able to tank damage by just swapping in one that you're not using to take a massive hit is an interesting possibility. Automaton is fun because eventually your deck is just these super powerful combo cards after a few turns of set up. I think it rewards small decks the most, without losing to status cards because you have cards that can make use of them. Stuff like that innate card that grabs an encode card, or Spaghetti Code, and other cards that generate random encode cards let you fill your deck with powerful functions. The encode cards are slightly weak on their own, but there's enough support that you don't need to cast them to get them encoded every time (like the one that scrys and encodes any encode cards you would discard), and by combining them, you thin out your deck quickly.
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Gremlins feels like a character that Lifecoach would have a 97% win rate with.
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You don't need to take snecko eye if you only take 0 cost cards
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mcvey posted:This is how I feel about most, if not all, of the Downfall characters. Too complicated, sure. But they mostly have a good pay off if you jump through the hoops. Hexaghost has you jump through hoops to get 12 damage in 3 turns.
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SKULL.GIF posted:The Hermit is easily the smoothest experience of any of the Downfall characters, and even then it takes a while to get the hang of how their power scaling works. That's because the Hermit isn't a Downfall character. It was designed separately by someone else, and only later added to Downfall when it became an official TC mod.
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Jedit posted:That's because the Hermit isn't a Downfall character. It was designed separately by someone else, and only later added to Downfall when it became an official TC mod. Yes, he’s more from the highly popular Uprise version of slay. Hold your applause.
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I did it, I finally beat the heart with a searing blow deck. Abacus was the mvp tho.
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