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BiggerBoat posted:Raising and taking care of a dog requires work, commitment, time, sacrifice and love. They're all perfect dogs,
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Simplex posted:Trump having the police clear protestors so he could walk across the street to give a speech on some church steps will forever remain the most Reported for misinformation  Kindly educate yourself on the Facts and say "NO" to fake news: https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/1004832399/watchdog-report-says-police-did-not-clear-protesters-to-make-way-for-trump-last- quote:The U.S. Park Police did not clear protesters from a park outside the White House so then-President Donald Trump could take a photo-op at a nearby church, an Interior Department inspector general's report found. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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thing about his presidency and his support to me. The absolute literal opposite of what Jesus would do.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Reported for misinformation quote:When we asked the USPP operations commander about this exchange, he stated he told the
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Who you going to believe, Trump or your lying eyes?
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Reported for misinformation Lol, yeah, USPP didn’t clear it because Secret Service did.
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MrMojok posted:To normal people a dog is the physical embodiment of love, the most loving and loyal companion. Maybe he just really liked A Hard Day's Night as a kid.
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I was too young to remember, how pissed were people that the Clinton’s had a cat?
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Socks was well liked enough to get his own goddamn video game. Rush et al were more concerned with calling a teenaged Chelsea ugly.
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Tayter Swift posted:Socks was well liked enough to get his own goddamn video game. Were they ever. You could hear the sadistic glee in their voices every time they got a chance to slag on Chelsea, like just how joyful it was to them to beat up on a young girl.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I was too young to remember, how pissed were people that the Clinton’s had a cat? no one. presidential pets have kinda always been kinda of non issue outside a story about Fala. and i guess bidens dog biting cops. quote:On September 23, 1944, Roosevelt began his 1944 presidential campaign in Washington, D.C., speaking at a dinner with the International Teamsters Union. The half-hour speech was also broadcast by all U.S. radio networks.[6] In the speech, Roosevelt criticized Republican opponents in Congress and detailed their criticisms of him. Late in the speech, Roosevelt addressed Republican charges that he had accidentally left Fala behind on the Aleutian Islands while on tour there and had sent a U.S. Navy destroyer to retrieve him at an exorbitant cost to the taxpayers: idk i like presidential pet stories. they are fun. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 20, 2022 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:I was too young to remember, how pissed were people that the Clinton’s had a cat? Getting mad about a presidents pets does not really play will politically, even the whatever? issue with Biden's dog or something that my conservative family spoke about in the terms of "why is this even on the news?" I guess it plays with some people.
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Imagine Rush Limbaugh calling someone ugly.
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I like the phrase "Republican fiction writers."
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BiggerBoat posted:Imagine Rush Limbaugh calling someone ugly. Picture of Rush Limbaugh during the Clinton Presidency, for reference: 
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nine-gear crow posted:Picture of Rush Limbaugh during the Clinton Presidency, for reference: Yeah. How dare a 14 year old girl not meet this person's standards? Then again, I've had it said to me that liberals like myself just can't take a joke. Ha.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:bidens dog biting cops. The dogs are no questions the best Bidens
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Failed Imagineer posted:The dogs are no questions the best Bidens Hunter Bidens got quite a hog, mind you
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Rust Martialis posted:Hunter Bidens got quite a hog, mind you He's an honorary menber of the Dog Pound
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Were they ever. You could hear the sadistic glee in their voices every time they got a chance to slag on Chelsea, like just how joyful it was to them to beat up on a young girl. Even better is Sean Hannity defending that stunt being like "it was a mistake that Chelsea's picture was put up" Ignoring the fact that 1. It was a pre-taped show and therefore such a mistake could be corrected 2. What the gently caress is the joke supposed to be then? Just in case you needed a reminder that Sean Hannity has always been a scummy piece of poo poo.
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I'm reasonably sure ghouls from that generation are still salivating at the thought of Chelsea entering politics. I.E, Prickly City going on about the accursed "Manchester" between calls for civil discourse and understanding.
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BiggerBoat posted:Yeah. How dare a 14 year old girl not meet this person's standards? Given what later came out about his Caribbean sex tourism, all the poo poo he had to say about Chelsea took on an extra layer of creepy. Not that it was lacking to begin with, of course.
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nine-gear crow posted:Picture of Rush Limbaugh during the Clinton Presidency, for reference: got a face like a Content Aware Resize
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Kith posted:got a face like a Content Aware Resize He is the Reverse Charlie Kirk.
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Here is a sad thought and a happy thought in regards to Rush. Sad thought: dude definitely thought of young teens/pre teens as attractive. Happy thought: dude is still super dead and will forever remain dead. Truly a "don't be sad that I lived but happy that I died" situation for our times.
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There are 84 people who signed sworn statements that they were duly elected electors for their state. Probably a few hundred more who helped facilitate the fraud against the United States. Where are thee indictments? Sure, we want the ring leaders like Ivanka and Jr and Giuliani but at least some of these fools should be doing 5 to 10 by now.
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Graham and Flynn are being deposed in GA today. They apparently delayed long enough to avoid being before the election. What’s the over for the number of 5ths proclaimed today? 250? 300?
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The new special counsel was working on Thanksgiving. https://twitter.com/Roniretired1/status/1595964769852592130
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Rigel posted:The new special counsel was working on Thanksgiving. Clear indication that Trump will become next years pardoned Turkey. Am I doing :nothingmatters: right? Not used to it.
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Rigel posted:The new special counsel was working on Thanksgiving. Lol, I like the direct call out to Trusty who’s floated several of these bullshit, “only if you ignore the facts of the case I cite” examples as legal arguments. BigglesSWE posted:Clear indication that Trump will become next years pardoned Turkey. One thing that’s sort of flying under the radar is that before the appointment of the special counsel there was no direct statement from DoJ that Trump was being personally investigated for criminal behavior. Even the Mar-a-lago search warrant was directed at Trumps “office” and not him personally. It’s actually a really big step towards prosecution.
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Some backbiting coming out of the January 6 Committee, per WaPo:Jan. 6 panel staffers angry at Cheney for focusing so much of report on Trump posted:Now, less than six weeks before the conclusion of the committee’s work, Cheney’s influence over the committee’s final report has rankled many current and former committee staff. They are angered and disillusioned by Cheney’s push to focus the report primarily on former president Donald Trump, and have bristled at the committee morphing into what they have come to view as the vehicle for the outgoing Wyoming lawmaker’s political future. Sounds like the report is likely to be pretty much "Trump was uniquely bad" rather than "holy poo poo the Republicans are goose-stepping lunatics." Which is unfortunate, but not unexpected given Liz Cheney is a conservative Republican and the co-chair of the committee. Hopefully the rest of the information gets released in appendices or something and not just buried - it sounds like there might be some pushback from some other committee members if that were to happen.
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Timmy Age 6 posted:Some backbiting coming out of the January 6 Committee, per WaPo: There was a similar report a while ago. Notable is that the source is staff members, rather than actual committee members. So I'm not sure how much of an actual problem this is. It's the Committee's report, not Liz Cheney's, and if they don't like it they can change it.
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I agree with Cheney and think these unnamed staffers are flat-out wrong and just upset that their work isn't getting top billing. The vast, vast majority of the report SHOULD be focused on Trump, loving no poo poo. The rest was just on incompetence, and extremism, which SHOULD pale in comparison and be relegated to footnotes and lesser chapters.
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Rigel posted:I agree with Cheney and think these unnamed staffers are flat-out wrong and just upset that their work isn't getting top billing. The vast, vast majority of the report SHOULD be focused on Trump, loving no poo poo. The rest was just on incompetence, and extremism, which SHOULD pale in comparison and be relegated to footnotes and lesser chapters. Caaaaaaaase solved. Phew. Just one more thing that requires us to learn absolutely no lessons and make absolutely no changes.
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Xander77 posted:Ah. Jan 6 happened because Trump was uniquely bad. The purpose of this report is purely political. The "lessons to be learned" were learned a long loving time ago, within a month or two after 1/6. The law enforcement agencies are not waiting in befuddled confusion for their wise masters to hand down the report that they must study to finally at long last learn from their mistakes. Given that this report is political, there's nothing to be gained from publicly announcing "well, our intelligence and law enforcement agencies underestimated the threat, and gosh we've got a problem with all these extremist groups too. Oh, and I guess Trump sucked too, but whatever." The purpose of the report is primarily to prepare the people for the reality that a president who many of them voted for should probably go to prison.
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In terms of successfully driving a wedge between trumpists and the not-(as?-)insane part of the republican coalition her and others on the committee's efforts to keep it from descending into just purestrain liberal fantasy about republicans has been unambiguously useful. Like I personally share a lot of the feelings about republicans, but if you want to create focused pressure on conservatives to reject trump, you categorically can not do that by smearing 100% of conservatives. Also I suspect that those leaks are not that widely held of a view because pretty much the entirety of the committee's efforts have been very focused and clearly on the same page wrt what they want to do. Like the committee does not need to convince dems to dump trump, it needs to convince conservatives to. There is a helluva largely unrecognized dem echo chamber about how obvious and completely beyond doubt trump's and republican's crimes are and while not exactly wrong, it just isn't that useful of a perspective when it comes to doing anything that requires bipartisanship and especially useless when it comes to getting republicans to do something. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Nov 25, 2022 |
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Xander77 posted:Ah. Jan 6 happened because Trump was uniquely bad. Here’s another way to think about it. Is the leader in a fascist movement essential to the movement? Trump is uniquely bad. There are significant structural fascist elements and issues with the GOP, that need to be addressed and changed. I guess what I’m saying is that it isn’t contradictory to believe both those things.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Here’s another way to think about it. Is the leader in a fascist movement essential to the movement? I don't think the argument is really "What portion of responsibility should be borne by Trump vs Republicans as a whole?", but "what role does a Congressional Committee play vs the DoJ and other law enforcement offices". Trying to collect evidence of crimes against people that aren't already notorious is a dangerous game - you might end up contaminating jury pools by elevating statements that aren't legally admissible, you probably don't have a sufficient body of evidence for more than single-digit targets to be worthwhile to focus the Eye of Sauron on, and because the decisions of the committee don't have any legal consequences they benefit way more from picking a symbolic target that casual news-readers recognize. The strategy they took may have been part of the reason for the elections going how they did, and that is inherently more valuable than getting more names in the press. I don't know if there is any master list of prosecutions related to Jan 6th, but there have definitely been a substantial number of them that end up getting posted and then lost in the flood of more interesting news. People going to jail for 3 years or whatever just isn't that interesting, and the associated crimes don't have any real staying power in people's minds. The individual court cases are fairly meaningless, but the aggregate picture is that people are being pursued for what they did. All that said, of course everyone wants Marco Rubio or whoever to get slammed with something, but the incitement is already fairly nebulous as a case when it comes to Trump and much moreso for anyone with a smaller platform - that's why the documents are the line. It's a tired trope that our justice system never delivers, but that's mostly because we want it to deliver prevention rather than punishment, and it inherently doesn't have the power to deliver that
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If 50 Republican representatives were part of the planning, they should be in the report and not just lumped in with the president. If there's a distinction between staffers, then identify those categories of culpability. If the claims are true, it sounds exactly like the goal of releasing a report that claims nothing (see russiagate), and simply gets dismissed as "Trump bad propaganda", which is neither what it is nor should be. Nor does T's eventual legal standing absolve any such Republicans of their liability. If they claim "the DOJ prosecutes", and if the eight-month standing argument is "the DOJ builds a case by talking to the top dog last", then does the committee simply throw away hundred of hours of depositions and tell the DOJ, "yeah if you want gym jordan, start all over". The nothing matters statement would be: Great so they moaned about having no fascist Republicans on the committee, they ended up with just one conservative, but true to the usual gerrymandering that one was enough to tank the whole thing at the end.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:If 50 Republican representatives were part of the planning, they should be in the report and not just lumped in with the president. If there's a distinction between staffers, then identify those categories of culpability. Aside from a couple representatives who may have given tours the night before (and the evidence against them intending anything more than just showing some friendly chuds around is thin), there is really no reason whatsoever to believe that there was this widespread conspiracy to organize an attack on the capitol. That was pretty much almost 100% completely the sole responsibility of Trump and his inner circle (well and the attackers themselves, but they wouldn't have gone without Trump's command). If you were hoping for a report that suddenly reveals a heretofore unknown massive conspiracy implicating the entire Republican party in crimes, well that expectation was not reasonable at all. We do have a mountain of evidence showing that basically the entire Republican apparatus from congressional leadership to Fox News on down were testily warning Trump not to march to the capitol, and he chose to ignore them. Rigel fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Here’s another way to think about it. Is the leader in a fascist movement essential to the movement? Almost certainly not. It's not a terrible stretch to picture some crab other than Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, or Mussolini to ride their respective waves of fear and hate, if the named ones were somehow removed early. Lots of potential leaders fell in each of those paths to power, and each had champions with their own drive and direction waiting in the wings for their opportunities.
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