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Charity Porno posted:yeah dumbass, all those things aren't individual programs Oh, word?
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HootTheOwl posted:My switch, phone, and other windows programs can figure out how to do their updates when I'm not looking. Arena can too. FYI Arena will do this on PC if you download the client through the Epic Store. But another totally unforced error on WotC's part not putting their client on Steam.
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AngryBooch posted:Positive news is the top 8 Pioneer Dreamhack Atlanta looks very diverse and Pioneer has been pretty diverse on the weekend: Collected company is maybe the most important card in your deck and it being the only foil is a bit sus. Its secret lair art is also not so much better than its other versions that makes it something you just gotta have. It is however sometimes the cheapest version of collected company if you buy them today, so I could see why someone would only have these as foil. Sucky situation for sure.
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I don’t foil up my decks for that reason. I got deck checked at a 1K once and I had a single foil consider that the judge said they could cut right to and I had to very quickly buy a non-foil one. Funny thing was my opponent got dinged for a single foil as well lol.
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Why would he need to be cut from the tournament over that... just take one of those blank MDFC whatever proxy cards and write the sold-damaged secret lair card text on it? This is a fake problem.
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You aren't allowed to proxy to replace a foil in those circumstances?
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Sickening posted:Collected company is maybe the most important card in your deck and it being the only foil is a bit sus. Its secret lair art is also not so much better than its other versions that makes it something you just gotta have. It literally says "among other foils." I wonder what the threshold of randomness is regarding foils vs non foils in decks. I always thought it I HAD to play some foils of key cards, i'd throw in some foil basics too but I wonder if even that would be too much knowledge according to a judge. The whole thing is stupid, they should just let you slot a blank card in there and show the foil legit copy upon request
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Nov 20, 2022 22:46
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Captain Invictus posted:You aren't allowed to proxy to replace a foil in those circumstances? Only if the foil is the only version of the card, so when Nexus of Fate was only available as a foil buy a box promo you could get a proxy for it.
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Captain Invictus posted:You aren't allowed to proxy to replace a foil in those circumstances? Khanstant posted:Why would he need to be cut from the tournament over that... just take one of those blank MDFC whatever proxy cards and write the sold-damaged secret lair card text on it? This is a fake problem. The cards were treated like marked cards. I have no idea the procedure of this anymore because "lol judges academy", but the player getting a DQ was because the judge felt that the player intended for the cards to be marked. I personally have always been a bit skeptical of the "i can cut to your foil cards" because its often not done practically. The judge is often going much slower, feeling around much more , and basically making the "shuffling" not very natural. If a player was sitting across from you shuffling in the way that these judges use to cut to the cards in question, you would ask the player what in the hell they are doing. I will say though, a secret lair collected company should be extremely obvious on the top of your deck though if you are basing your turn around if you are about to draw it or not. The pringle is going to be noticeable.
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Nov 20, 2022 22:50
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Official tournaments should all use house-provided proxies of all cards printed on the exact same stock and treatment and be shuffled exclusively by a gentle automatic sleeved card shuffling machine, with cards dealt on draw by a professional dealer. Anything less and I have to suspect the entire thing is a scam to try and get players to spend more money on Magic products
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Nov 20, 2022 23:19
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I know that’s a joke, but Magic players getting to shuffle and deal their own decks in anything resembling a high stakes tournament is nuts
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AngryBooch posted:Negative news is that players are having to re-learn that you should not put foils in your tourney decks and WotC continues to ignore their foil issues: They should start putting acorns on foil Secret Lairs
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whydirt posted:I know that’s a joke, but Magic players getting to shuffle and deal their own decks in anything resembling a high stakes tournament is nuts in high stakes events you are obligated to shuffle your opponents deck every time they present it to you
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lol the amount of online arguments about mana weaving shows most MTG players have no idea what the gently caress "random" actually means
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whydirt posted:I know that’s a joke, but Magic players getting to shuffle and deal their own decks in anything resembling a high stakes tournament is nuts It turns out WotC made a special shuffling program for this, that also enforces game rules. You can find it under "Magic Arena"
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Toshimo posted:It turns out WotC made a special shuffling program for this, that also enforces game rules. You can find it under "Magic Arena" This is probably accurate given how often the modo thoughtseize bug occurs
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Toshimo posted:It turns out WotC made a special shuffling program for this, that also enforces game rules. You can find it under "Magic Arena" Actually doesn't Arena generate two random hands and give the player the one with the better mana/spells ratio?
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Charity Porno posted:Actually doesn't Arena generate two random hands and give the player the one with the better mana/spells ratio? It does this in best of one ranked. All the competitive events use BO3 where there is no "hand smoother" and it's completely psuedorandom
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Charity Porno posted:Actually doesn't Arena generate two random hands and give the player the one with the better mana/spells ratio? Not exactly, but that also only applies to Best-of-1 queues, not best-of-3, where any serious competitive games take place.
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ilmucche posted:This is probably accurate given how often the modo thoughtseize bug occurs modo thoughtseize bug?
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Arivia posted:modo thoughtseize bug? I don't know what that player is talking about but my opponent always has 2 in their opening hand lol
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Arivia posted:modo thoughtseize bug? It's a joke that you get thoughtseized and your next draw is that card. Same with brainstorming something away, fetching and your next draw is one of the cards you tried to ditch. It doesn't actually exist
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Toshimo posted:It turns out WotC made a special shuffling program for this, that also enforces game rules. You can find it under "Magic Arena" If you love Arena so much why don’t you marry it.
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Charity Porno posted:I don't know what that player is talking about but my opponent always has 2 in their opening hand lol He’s talking about the joke that when you thoughtseize an opponent it will be their next draw. Some morons have taken it to be true and they are the same people who say stuff like “the shuffler” with no irony
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Considering that earlier in the thread someone posted an MTGO bug that permanently alters client behavior and is bound to your account, the shuffler having no errors seems like the more surprising outcome Edit: oh maybe it wasn't posted in here? https://twitter.com/BryantACook/status/1593815744084590592
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Considering that earlier in the thread someone posted an MTGO bug that permanently alters client behavior and is bound to your account, the shuffler having no errors seems like the more surprising outcome What part of Final Fortune do you fall to understand?
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MTGO is a little different, it's kind of a miracle it works at all
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Toshimo posted:It turns out WotC made a special shuffling program for this, that also enforces game rules. You can find it under "Magic Arena" oh that sounds neat... wait, two whole gigs?!?!??!
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kalel posted:oh that sounds neat... wait, two whole gigs?!?!??!
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When I boot up Arena and it has to download 2 gigs
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kalel posted:oh that sounds neat... wait, two whole gigs?!?!??! fuuuuuuuuuuuuck this is a hellworld
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Considering that earlier in the thread someone posted an MTGO bug that permanently alters client behavior and is bound to your account, the shuffler having no errors seems like the more surprising outcome lol, just lol
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/fakejakebrowne/status/1594421108564193280?s=46&t=0ZWflCRTnbpET2QcpvzAJw Didn't realize they even did RCQs in the Bahamas
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MODO probably has a bug with shuffling, most often seen with ponder where it seems to not shuffle when you put cards on top and tell it to and it says it does in the log. There is also a lot of oddities in the log in general right now where it's putting the players name in place of a cards name or not showing what creatures are attacking plansewalkers correctly. It just recently had some weird issues with escape costing the combination of the cards casting cost and the escape cost instead of just the escape cost because it's poorly duct tapes spaghetti code which probably leads players to seeing bugs when they aren't there.
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neaden posted:MODO probably has a bug with shuffling, most often seen with ponder where it seems to not shuffle when you put cards on top and tell it to and it says it does in the log. There is also a lot of oddities in the log in general right now where it's putting the players name in place of a cards name or not showing what creatures are attacking plansewalkers correctly. It just recently had some weird issues with escape costing the combination of the cards casting cost and the escape cost instead of just the escape cost because it's poorly duct tapes spaghetti code which probably leads players to seeing bugs when they aren't there. The ponder bug is not real. Someone did a statistical analysis of like 1000 ponder casts and seeing the card you shuffled away on top happened the expected amount of times. The names thing in the log is funny but not related to any serious gameplay thing
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Ill unironically not play on my phone because every time I get the urge to, i remember I have to update arena and it takes more than 5 minutes and then the urge passes and I read the forums or whatever.
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If anyone still plays MODO (and is willing to admit it) is Mind's Desire still bugged?
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AngryBooch posted:Negative news is that players are having to re-learn that you should not put foils in your tourney decks and WotC continues to ignore their foil issues: https://twitter.com/Ajelenbogen/status/1594522614546022403
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