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SniperWoreConverse posted:I check out some more news sometimes, it has half alright jokes & is kinda OK. i stopped watching him cause his partner was a liz warren die hard ranting about bernie on their podcast
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Srice posted:no war but the posting wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ
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Nichael posted:meanwhile in delaware lol this owns
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how can you counter a revolution that isnt happening and by a party devoted to democratic processes?
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Real hurthling! posted:how can you counter a revolution that isnt happening and by a party devoted to democratic processes? well you see, i made some mean tweets so
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Nichael posted:meanwhile in delaware Nichael was worried
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Nichael is going to personally destroy the delaware center and left so hard that Scott Walker is going to win due to the extreme disorganization and cliquishness. It will be glorious.
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silicone thrills posted:Nichael is going to personally destroy the delaware center and left so hard that Scott Walker is going to win due to the extreme disorganization and cliquishness. It will be glorious.  It was always going to end like this.
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CLAM DOWN posted:is anyone posting in cspam not stupid? I think everybody is a little frustrated at this point, having watched the committee spell out clear and public crimes all summer and fall, only to have Trump declare his candidacy for president again. The only consequence of any of this so far is what, 4 months of Bannon in jail for contempt? It's infuriating. Many shitposters dropped into this thread to tell us nothing was actually going to happen and we held on to hope anyway. The evidence was too strong, the public was too informed, the committee was too targeted on Trump himself for any of this to simply blow over. But the guy is a presidential candidate right now. What the gently caress.
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camoseven posted:how childish. next meeting say your fave pasta is strozzapreti and look pointedly at the executive committee
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Barnum Brown Shoes posted:I think everybody is a little frustrated at this point, having watched the committee spell out clear and public crimes all summer and fall, only to have Trump declare his candidacy for president again. 
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Barnum Brown Shoes posted:I think everybody is a little frustrated at this point, having watched the committee spell out clear and public crimes all summer and fall, only to have Trump declare his candidacy for president again. tane
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Barnum Brown Shoes posted:I think everybody is a little frustrated at this point, having watched the committee spell out clear and public crimes all summer and fall, only to have Trump declare his candidacy for president again. lmao Imagine anyone ever having thought a president of the united states of america would go to jail for crimes. lmao. Andrew Jackson literally told the supreme court "I dont care that you said I couldn't run the indians off the land, what army do you have to stop me" GWB started an illegal war. Karl Rove sold out a CIA agent. No one that high in government ever gets jail time. silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 02:01 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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The walls are closing in on Mr. Trmup.
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Barnum Brown Shoes posted:I think everybody is a little frustrated at this point, having watched the committee spell out clear and public crimes all summer and fall, only to have Trump declare his candidacy for president again. 
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My hot take on ableism/counterrevolutionary/problematic discourse that makes any sort of leftist organizing in the US is the result of the indoctrination by universities. Conservatives are right that there is indoctrination, but they are wrong about who is doing it (its admissions committees, not professors) and the end result (destruction of any possibility of solidarity, rather than turning kids into gay communists). Most other advanced nations have what is called a binary system of higher education. At a relatively young age, the population is divided into kids who will go to the trades and kids that will go to university. That process is highly class based, but it means that by the time you get to college admissions, you're already selected in and where you go doesn't matter. No dutch kid is losing their mind over Erasmus vs U of Amsterdam. But in the US, that class selection mechanism happens at the college admissions process. Whether you go to an Ivy, to a private school for those who almost made it into an ivy, to a good public university, a meh public university, a regional campus or a community college will have long term repercussions for you. It is an inherently exclusionary process. Harvard could increase the size of their incoming class tenfold and it would barely make a dent in their budget, but the point is being exclusive. But the liberals who run these institutions are deeply concerned with seeming aristocratic. So candidates have to justify their selection through personal statements, diversity statements, etc. Now, the kids of the really rich and the working class don't have to worry about it (the first because they can just make a donation, the second because they don't even know the rules of the game). But everyone from the aspiring lower middle class to the low millionaire who can't afford an 8 digit donation is socialized from an early age to think of the angle they will use for admissions. It will either be some story of personally overcoming some difficulty (frequently centered around mental health/disability because few of these people actually lack something) or being personally involved, through volunteering, in helping someone else do the same. And of course, because all of this is in the service of getting ahead in an exclusionary system, it can't be the sort of overcoming adversity that everyone shares. You gotta be able to argue that the type of adversity you overcame is special and unique to you. And it does not end at college admissions. Because then you have your grad school admissions. And your job interview/grant application. So from an early age, kids of this sort of class/status are trained to think not "my problems are like other people's problems and as such I should develop solidarity." But rather "how can I frame my struggles as unique and personal so that my achievements look more impressive to admissions committees." That is why liberal anti-left discourse is so sui generis in the US. In Europe or Latin America it will be the more common "unions make people lazy and inefficient" type of thing, or it will be connected to foreign policy tropes (being critical of Israel is antisemitic, being critical of the US is communism). In the US it's the "actually unions or any other form of class based organizing is ableism, counterrevolutionary, racist and sexist" because from an early age liberal kids have been trained to think of how their struggles are actually special and separate from everyone else's. joepinetree has issued a correction as of 02:12 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Nichael posted:well perhaps we can retreat to mutual aid causes, you might rightfully ask? Srice posted:no war but the posting wars Posts Not Action
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joepinetree posted:My hot take on ableism/counterrevolutionary/problematic discourse that makes any sort of leftist organizing in the US is the result of the indoctrination by universities. Conservatives are right that there is indoctrination, but they are wrong about who is doing it (its admissions committees, not professors) and the end result (destruction of any possibility of solidarity, rather than turning kids into gay communists). An interesting angle, had never thought of it from that perspective of (young) life long internalisation of negative specialness...
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Willa Rogers posted:all this poo poo has just been memory-holed & replaced by "hunter smokes crack & has a big dick lol" I was just thinking of this the other day, glad to see it got reposted.
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Nichael posted:meanwhile in delaware lmao
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Nichael posted:
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Gumball Gumption posted:"So yeah, there are videos of Hunter screaming at women to tell people he doesn't hit them, he's definitely abused women, they're hosed up and I wish there were consequences for him" editors note: the burisma scandal is technically real its just not important because politicians kids take shady jobs they obviously arent qualified for all the time so when you think about it actually it isnt real
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NEW YORK — Gov. Kathy Hochul won an unexpectedly competitive election as feuding Democrats reluctantly set aside their ideological differences to avoid squandering the governorship. Her next challenge will be trying to replicate that peace. Hochul heads into her first full term facing factions of moderates, progressives, establishment and fringe groups who remain divided on how the party should combat public safety issues, a housing crisis and the effects of inflation. The Democrats are also at odds over whom to blame for their brutal election showing, in which they lost three House seats as Hochul won a narrow victory over Republican Rep. Lee Zeldin. While some Democratic governors, like in Minnesota, Michigan and Pennsylvania, are basking in the glow of party gains in their statehouses, Hochul has to mend fences. “I think this is a great opportunity for us to rebuild,” Hochul said Monday after an event in Buffalo, characterizing intraparty clashes — many of which originated long before her tenure — as disagreements that could easily be settled. Hochul, a moderate from Buffalo, has taken a positive outlook on the election results — pointing to Democratic wins in the state Senate, Assembly and for the rest of New York’s statewide elected officials. But she acknowledged the state party is not “the powerhouse that it should be” in a heavily blue state. Democrats hold all state offices and control the state Legislature. “There’s a lot of different ideas for how to get to basically the same result, and I’m the person who has to be responsible for that,” Hochul, the first woman elected governor in New York, said. “I gratefully own that mantle.” Whether she can do that in a way that will avoid even sharper disappointment in 2024 remains an open question, especially as she continues to back state party chair Jay Jacobs despite a cavalcade of Democrats — at least 750 of them — pointing at his leadership as the problem. Any immediate change to Jacobs’ role would likely be at her direction; Jacobs, who has been party chair since 2019 and also held the job from 2009 to 2012, was reelected for another two-year term in September. Progressive democrats have floated names such as strategist L. Joy Williams, who heads the Brooklyn NAACP, or outgoing Rep. Mondaire Jones as the kinds of candidates they’re looking for. Jacobs, who is also head of the Nassau County Democratic Party, gave his support to Hochul after she took over from former Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who resigned amid sexual harassment allegations in 2021. Jacobs rallied the party around her reelection campaign. He’s been dismissive of some on the left, characterizing progressives like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as idealists who are naive about the kind of work and compromise needed to achieve results. He refused to back Democratic socialist India Walton in the Buffalo mayor’s race last year, although she was the party’s nominee, and he had to apologize for making racist remarks defending his choice. Jacobs said Wednesday that the state party isn’t to blame for the Election Day losses, saying the committee isn’t responsible for running legislative or congressional races — only for providing resources and volunteers on the ground, which he said it did. “When you don’t have the authority for certain things, then I don’t feel you should take the responsibility for the outcome when it doesn’t go your way,” he said. Groups on the left have expressed disbelief that Jacobs still holds the role, especially after being recruited as part of a frantic push to turn out voters for Hochul. Even Ocasio-Cortez, who has been no fan of moderate Democrats or Jacobs, campaigned with Hochul in the streets of New York City on Election Day. Meanwhile, Jacobs’ own Nassau County — where even Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer lost to his little-known GOP challenger despite Schumer’s resounding victory statewide — was fertile ground for Republican gains this year. “So we’re expecting for him to build a party across the state of New York and in these complicated times, while in his backyard he got completely demolished?” Bronx state Sen. Gustavo Rivera said in an interview. “Just from a straight up tactical perspective, how does that make any drat sense?” Hochul’s efforts to rebuild should rely on individuals who have not alienated key portions of voters and organizers, Rivera suggested. “From a longer term strategic perspective, what was clear around the country? What made sure that Democrats were able to not get completely slaughtered?” Rivera said. “It was young people, it was progressives.” “Let’s embrace them,” he added, “by embracing people that actually bring them into the party.” Many Democratic lawmakers attending the party’s annual SOMOS conference in San Juan in the days after the election were non-committal about whether Democratic alignment in the final days of the campaign could easily extend into the new year, and they expressed irritation that the state party’s campaign efforts were scattered enough to require bailing out Hochul’s campaign in the first place. “I am optimistic that we are the kind of party that comes together to encourage and excite New Yorkers to vote,” Assemblymember Catalina Cruz, a Queens Democrat, said when asked whether party unity could continue once the threat of a Republican governor had passed. “I can tell you that hearing from many of my community members — they were not even aware there was an election.” Hochul’s style of governing has so far been popular among other elected officials, who cite her as a productive and collaborative leader, especially in contrast to her predecessor, Cuomo, whose top-down governing style had worn out its welcome with Democrats in Albany and led to a yearslong feud with then-Mayor Bill de Blasio. Hochul has maintained a decent relationship with Mayor Eric Adams, despite him pressing the state for more action on New York City’s crime problem — which was a key issue that Zeldin and Republicans in House races effectively used to win over voters. “I think she’s done an amazing job under very difficult circumstances — difficult to the extent that she just got here and the fact that it is a mammoth government,” Assembly Majority Leader Crystal Peoples-Stokes, a Buffalo Democrat, said during an interview last month. “I think that she got up to speed very quickly. I think she’s put some amazing people in place to head up the work that she has to do, and I’m impressed with a lot of the women that she’s put in place to handle major pieces of her administration.” But being a good governor does not automatically extend to being a dynamic party leader. Hochul has been adamant that she will not replicate the strong-arm style of Cuomo, who insisted on controlling the state party and state government. She should replicate what she’s done in her administration by replacing Jacobs with someone — or multiple people — who can focus entirely on rebuilding bridges, said Democratic communications strategist Stu Loeser, who was a top aide to former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg. They should have experience, energy and, “most important, credibility” across party factions, he said. “It will take money, but she’s proven that she’s an exemplary fundraiser,” Loeser said. “And it will take talent to build a team. No one person can handle our loss of Hispanics in the suburbs and our lack of operations in NYC and every other challenge. “But a good team leader with resources and support from the boss can do it,” he added. “It’s exactly what she’s done in the government; it’s exactly what she’s great at.”
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Nichael posted:
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https://twitter.com/What46HasDone/status/1594435004838580224?cxt=HHwWgMDQjY6MyaAsAAAA …and that’s why Fentanyl is GREAT ACTUALLY!!!!!
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Some Guy TT posted:editors note: the burisma scandal is technically real its just not important because politicians kids take shady jobs they obviously arent qualified for all the time so when you think about it actually it isnt real Except when a republican does it, then it's ironclad proof of corruption of the highest order and Judge Daddy Garland should investigate them so hard over it.
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joepinetree posted:My hot take on ableism/counterrevolutionary/problematic discourse that makes any sort of leftist organizing in the US is the result of the indoctrination by universities. Conservatives are right that there is indoctrination, but they are wrong about who is doing it (its admissions committees, not professors) and the end result (destruction of any possibility of solidarity, rather than turning kids into gay communists). great post
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General Bullshit posted:I was just thinking of this the other day, glad to see it got reposted.  thank god eh5 declared the topic off-limits for usce before someone brought this poo poo up.
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lol randomly saw a bit on the local news site about Biden attending his grand daughter Naomi's wedding yesterday. Bets on Biden catching covid from the wedding? We will see on tuesday or wednesday! Not a single mask in sight in any of the posted pictures. quote:The public will see none of the festivities, unlike some past White House weddings. The bride and groom have decided to keep journalists out, although the ceremony will be outdoors on the grounds of what the president and first lady call the "people's house."
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Barnum Brown Shoes posted:I think everybody is a little frustrated at this point, having watched the committee spell out clear and public crimes all summer and fall, only to have Trump declare his candidacy for president again. lol
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