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Komet
Apr 4, 2003

drat Dirty Ape posted:

The transitive property of college football just doesn't work. Penn State thoroughly dominated Maryland who played both UM and OSU tough. A few weeks ago I was thinking UM all the way but now I'm not so sure.

But there is some truth to it even if it isn't true 100% of the time. But to your point, you could certainly make the argument that Penn State is much better now than when they lost to Michigan. I think Penn State is a legitimately very good team, whose main limitation is the inconsistency of Clifford. I think they are the best 2 loss team in college football.

Komet fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 20, 2022

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Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
Torn ACL for Hooker, so he’s done. That loving sucks.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

Joey Freshwater posted:

Torn ACL for Hooker, so he’s done. That loving sucks.

Hopefully that doesn’t hurt his professional career too much.

Next game and bowl will be a preview of The Joe Milton Show next year, hopefully it looks a little better than the last time he was a starter. He’s been great in every game he’s played this year outside of South Carolina when he sailed some balls like he did last time he was a starter.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Komet posted:

I think they are the best 2 loss team in college football.

lol

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
Awful to hear about Hooker. The he balled out the last 2 years here. I am not sold at all on Milton. He has looked like the greatest QB ever during garage time but looked not so hot during times when it matters. I am wish him a redemption arch but wishing doesn't do poo poo. We just better beat Vandy, because it we don't...

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Feel awful about Hooker, especially since it was non-contact.

If Milton is inaccurate was he was last night, Vandy has a chance.

Tad SG
Apr 16, 2003

Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy.

The Glumslinger posted:

I'm enjoying the fact that this team made of transfers and questionable defenders is probably gonna make the playoffs (and then get murdered, but let's not talk about that part yet)

Yup. There’s a large part of me that would rather just play in the Rose Bowl this year than get destroyed in the first round of the playoffs. But if that’s the cost for beating Notre Dame this week, then so be it.

dirty shrimp money
Jan 8, 2001

Houston blew out East Carolina 42-3. In other words, looking good against inferior competition.

Senior Day on Black Friday is against Tulsa. Looks like a 8-4 finish which looks good on paper but leaves zero confidence entering the Big 12.

Manoueverable
Oct 23, 2010

Dubs Loves Wubs
Washington just has to beat Wazzu to get a 10 win season. God drat that's a turnaround and we'd be playing in the championship game if we hadn't laid a loving egg against Arizona State god dammit I'm still mad about that game.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Tad SG posted:

Yup. There’s a large part of me that would rather just play in the Rose Bowl this year than get destroyed in the first round of the playoffs. But if that’s the cost for beating Notre Dame this week, then so be it.

If the Dawgs win out, putting it out there that it's not a given that UGA would blow out USC, let alone beat them straight up. Trojans defense is clownish except for forcing turnovers and UGA has been pretty turnovery the back half of the year. A shootout against USC is exactly the sort of thing that brings out "Stetson tries to do too much"

Ungratek
Aug 2, 2005


Georgia v USC would be a snuff film. Could probably win without even throwing a pass.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




D.N. Nation posted:

If the Dawgs win out, putting it out there that it's not a given that UGA would blow out USC, let alone beat them straight up. Trojans defense is clownish except for forcing turnovers and UGA has been pretty turnovery the back half of the year. A shootout against USC is exactly the sort of thing that brings out "Stetson tries to do too much"

UGA will do the same thing to USC they did to UT

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

D.N. Nation posted:

If the Dawgs win out, putting it out there that it's not a given that UGA would blow out USC, let alone beat them straight up. Trojans defense is clownish except for forcing turnovers and UGA has been pretty turnovery the back half of the year. A shootout against USC is exactly the sort of thing that brings out "Stetson tries to do too much"

USC's defense forced four turnovers against UCLA this week and still gave up 45 points

Maxwells Demon
Jan 15, 2007


Oregon vs USC will be a competitive game if it gets played. UGA beat Oregon by 46 points this season.

If Georgia wants it, they would beat USC by 30 points.

Thermos H Christ
Sep 6, 2007

WINNINGEST BEVO
I feel like Texas could beat USC

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.

Thermos H Christ posted:

I feel like Texas could beat USC

uh

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Thermos H Christ posted:

I feel like Texas could beat USC

That was a good ‘un if memory serves

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Thermos H Christ posted:

I feel like Texas could beat USC

:hmmyes:

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
Sorry but Vince Carter is no longer your QB.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

nate fisher posted:

Sorry but Vince Carter is no longer your QB.

Quinn Ewers is probably a better quarterback than Vince Carter.

Probably.

Chieves
Sep 20, 2010

Manoueverable posted:

Washington just has to beat Wazzu to get a 10 win season. God drat that's a turnaround and we'd be playing in the championship game if we hadn't laid a loving egg against Arizona State god dammit I'm still mad about that game.

Congrats on the awesome rebound year. Did you see any sparks in 2021 or was this just wholly unexpected?

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.

Chieves posted:

Congrats on the awesome rebound year. Did you see any sparks in 2021 or was this just wholly unexpected?

Unexpected but was in the realm of possibility as soon as Penix transferred. Last year ground down a lot of faith in the program.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

hell yeah vandals made the playoffs

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

If Georgia, TCU, or USC don’t win out, things are going to get sloppy. Clemson is in a good spot to get into the playoffs though if any of the others lose.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Bird in a Blender posted:

If Georgia, TCU, or USC don’t win out, things are going to get sloppy. Clemson is in a good spot to get into the playoffs though if any of the others lose.

I, uh, wouldn’t look past South Carolina if I were Clemson.

Unless that was like a tantrum that the Gamecocks are gonna need a couple weeks recovering from. Yeesh.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

harperdc posted:

I, uh, wouldn’t look past South Carolina if I were Clemson.

Unless that was like a tantrum that the Gamecocks are gonna need a couple weeks recovering from. Yeesh.

One week prior the cocks couldn’t move the ball against UF, who have maybe the worst defense in the SEC.

I think that offensive explosion was a one week aberration and Clemson is going to win by a couple scores at home.

Looks like the line is 14.5.

I hope in wrong because that would be absolutely hilarious.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
Troy and USA are both 9 and loving 2 and not ranked.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

harperdc posted:

I, uh, wouldn’t look past South Carolina if I were Clemson.

Unless that was like a tantrum that the Gamecocks are gonna need a couple weeks recovering from. Yeesh.

Clemson loses to SCAR, Georgia loses to LSU in the SECCG, TCU loses to KSU in the Big 12 CG, USC loses to ND, but beats Oregon in the PAC-12 CG. That's probably mass chaos right there.

Komet
Apr 4, 2003

Bird in a Blender posted:

Clemson loses to SCAR, Georgia loses to LSU in the SECCG, TCU loses to KSU in the Big 12 CG, USC loses to ND, but beats Oregon in the PAC-12 CG. That's probably mass chaos right there.

You forgot OSU/Michigan loses to Iowa.

The loser of UM/OSU maybe still slides into the playoff, but Iowa goes to the Rose Bowl

drewhead
Jun 22, 2002

harperdc posted:

I, uh, wouldn’t look past South Carolina if I were Clemson.

Unless that was like a tantrum that the Gamecocks are gonna need a couple weeks recovering from. Yeesh.

No Dobut. Can the Gamecocks do it a second time in two weeks on the road at noon? Maybe, but I think it's more likely the following week in the ACC championship that we get the second L.

I said after the ND game this team wouldn't finish 13-1. Louisville looked like it had the makings to give us trouble especially if they could get up early. But Cunningham entered the stadium with a club on his non throwing hand, was ineffectual, and didn't make it to halftime. That was a gift.

Miami was the only sure win left, they were hands down the worst team we have faced this year. Furman looked better.

Weird things happen in rivalry games but SC expending all that emotional energy to beat Tenn might just be the best thing for us. We are on a seven game streak and we did blank them last year, so those are extra motivating factors, but on paper we win this without having to flex much.

It's the UNC game that has me worried in Charlotte. Until last week Drake Maye had scored on everybody. I didn't like our chances in a shootout. But then GaTech of all people held them to 17? I feel like this may be a turnover game; who ever protects the ball the best wins. College Football is weird y'all.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

GD_American posted:

Troy and USA are both 9 and loving 2 and not ranked.

The Jags had their shot against UCLA, but it's hard to get votes without a P5 win. But maybe Wommack stays in Mobile for another year if they fly under the radar.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Komet posted:

Edit: I can't believe Tennessee is still above Penn State in the AP. What a joke.

I mean, what's Penn State's best win this year? Purdue?

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

General Dog posted:

I mean, what's Penn State's best win this year? Purdue?

It's this. Penn State has "better" losses but they don't have any good wins.


e: also lol getting mad at the AP poll now that CFP poll is going

Joey Freshwater fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Nov 21, 2022

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

uh I'll have you know they trounced Aub- :lol:


Yeah no. They ain't beat nobody pawl.


edit lol I read the schedule wrong, Auburn wasn't ranked then either

pfunkdaddy
Nov 19, 2004

*makes it rain*

Mustached Demon posted:

hell yeah vandals made the playoffs

TRIBE FROM THE NORTH, BITCH!!

I didn't think UofI would make the playoffs again!

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Komet posted:

But there is some truth to it even if it isn't true 100% of the time. But to your point, you could certainly make the argument that Penn State is much better now than when they lost to Michigan. I think Penn State is a legitimately very good team, whose main limitation is the inconsistency of Clifford. I think they are the best 2 loss team in college football.

I think this is fairly accurate, it’s either them or LSU in my mind—Tennessee doesn’t have the defense to belong there and Bama doesn’t have the offense. Even if you watch back the Michigan game, receivers were open—it’s why I referenced Washington. When Michigan was playing man, the coverage wasn’t the reason that the offense wasn’t working, Clifford’s happy feet and bizarre processing was. He seems like a dude where he just cannot play 3 games in a row the same way.

It feels like a game where more can go wrong for Ohio State and have them survive to me. If Michigan goes down 2 scores, they can’t pass their way back into the game. If Michigan is up 2 scores, Ohio State possibly can. The early run fits for both teams probably dictate the situation, but I just don’t see the margin there for Michigan with a starting QB that inconsistent right now.


Funniest outcome here would be JSN comes back and repeats the Utah game, but I’m very interested how much both of these teams have held back for this. Knowles hasn’t really had to dial up anything crazy all year. Day’s notorious for sitting on plays until big games. Harbaugh loves his gadget and trick plays, and we really haven’t seen what the new DC does when pushed other than this past week when they went to man after a very very bad attempt at playing Quarters. Going to be the most intrigue on scheme we’ve had going in since like Urban year 1.

dirty shrimp money
Jan 8, 2001

I ran another dirty shrimp poll and just like the real poll, your playoff is just about set?

Congrats to Charlotte for losing another dirty shrimp reverse championship

pre:
Delta	Team			Record	Score
-	1. Ohio State		11-0	4.9827
-	2. Georgia		11-0	4.7645
-	3. TCU			11-0	4.5819
+1	4. Michigan		11-0	4.5776
+1	5. USC			10-1	4.3170
+1	6. Clemson		10-1	3.6479
-3	7. Tennessee		9-2	3.4767
+2	8. Oregon		9-2	3.4377
-	9. LSU			9-2	3.2511
+1	10. Kansas State	8-3	3.0745
+1	11. Penn State		9-2	3.0631
+3	12. Alabama		9-2	2.8982
-	13. Washington		9-2	2.8591
-6	14. Utah		8-3	2.8471
+3	15. Florida State	8-3	2.7464
+9	16. Cincinnati		9-2	2.3660
+6	17. Notre Dame		8-3	2.3497
+11	18. Tulane		9-2	2.3153
+11	19. Louisville		7-4	2.1597
-6	20. North Carolina	9-2	2.1385
+6	21. Troy		9-2	2.1166
+9	22. Oregon State	8-3	2.1046
-7	23. UCLA		8-3	2.0737
-3	24. Illinois		7-4	1.9800
-6	25. Ole Miss		8-3	1.8843
			
			
-	122. Temple		3-8	-3.1795
+5	123. Hawaii		3-9	-3.1835
-1	124. Colorado		1-10	-3.3715
-1	125. South Florida	1-10	-3.5359
-	126. Colorado State	2-9	-3.6035
+3	127. Akron		1-9	-3.7726
-1	128. Nevada		2-9	-3.8751
-4	129. Northwestern	1-10	-3.9596
-1	130. Massachusetts	1-10	-3.9867
-	131. Charlotte		3-9	-4.1250


pre:
 
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
-6	26. NC State		7-4	1.8689
+9	27. Texas		7-4	1.8387
-4	28. Coastal Carolina	9-1	1.8368
-12	29. UCF			8-3	1.8006
+5	30. UTSA		9-2	1.7508
+7	31. Iowa		7-4	1.7330
+10	32. Mississippi State	7-4	1.7304
-11	33. South Alabama	8-2	1.7026
+5	34. Marshall		7-4	1.5420
+8	35. Washington State	7-4	1.4073
-10	36. Minnesota		7-4	1.3661
+9	37. Wake Forest		7-4	1.3431
+2	38. Purdue		7-4	1.3340
-7	39. Duke		7-4	1.3137
-12	40. Florida		6-5	1.2786
+4	41. Pittsburgh		7-4	1.1851
+13	42. Boise State		8-3	1.1621
+5	43. James Madison	7-3	1.1584
+9	44. Ohio U		8-3	1.0773
-12	45. Oklahoma State	7-4	1.0412
+3	46. Wisconsin		6-5	1.0040
+19	47. Arkansas		6-5	0.9423
+3	48. Air Force		8-3	0.9400
+8	49. Oklahoma		6-5	0.9345
-16	50. Syracuse		6-5	0.9242
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
-14	51. Kansas		6-5	0.8860
-11	52. Baylor		6-5	0.8088
+14	53. South Carolina	7-4	0.7744
-	54. Kentucky		6-5	0.7590
+9	55. Fresno State	7-4	0.6962
+3	56. Texas Tech		6-5	0.6315
+5	57. BYU			6-5	0.6133
+5	58. Appalachian State	6-5	0.6130
-7	59. Maryland		6-5	0.5633
-10	60. East Carolina	6-5	0.5474
+8	61. Georgia Tech	5-6	0.5368
-18	62. Western Kentucky	7-5	0.4750
-16	63. Liberty		8-3	0.4458
+4	64. San Diego State	7-4	0.3341
-5	65. San Jose State	6-4	0.1987
+13	66. Memphis		6-5	0.1618
+4	67. Louisiana 		5-5	0.0480
-7	68. Michigan State	5-6	0.0132
+5	69. Houston		7-4	-0.0004
-14	70. SMU			6-5	-0.0739
-6	71. Wyoming		7-4	-0.1465
+6	72. Vanderbilt		5-6	-0.1685
+10	73. California		4-7	-0.1816
+7	74. Missouri		5-6	-0.2671
-17	75. Toledo		7-4	-0.2763
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
+12	76. Auburn		5-6	-0.4057
-5	77. Miami (FL)		5-6	-0.4311
-2	78. UAB			5-6	-0.4867
+7	79. Southern Miss	5-5	-0.4955
-7	80. Iowa State		4-7	-0.5419
+11	81. Eastern Michigan	7-4	-0.5764
+11	82. Middle Tennessee	6-5	-0.6067
-13	83. Connecticut		6-6	-0.6542
+10	84. Miami (OH)		5-6	-0.7781
+10	85. Texas A&M		4-7	-0.8432
+16	86. Bowling Green	6-5	-0.8626
-2	87. North Texas		6-5	-0.8652
-13	88. Arizona		4-7	-0.8846
+14	89. Indiana		4-7	-0.8907
-10	90. Georgia Southern	5-6	-0.8911
+9	91. Army		4-6	-0.9052
-1	92. Buffalo		5-5	-0.9104
-16	93. Florida Atlantic	5-6	-0.9829
-12	94. Kent State		4-7	-1.0831
-8	95. West Virginia	4-7	-1.0924
-12	96. Rutgers		4-7	-1.1874
-7	97. Arizona State	3-8	-1.2879
+1	98. Louisiana-Monroe	4-6	-1.3768
-10	99. Ball State		5-6	-1.4617
+19	100. Navy		4-7	-1.4787
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
-	101. Georgia State	4-7	-1.4958
-4	102. Rice		5-6	-1.5109
-6	103. UNLV		4-7	-1.5918
+6	104. Utah State		6-5	-1.5980
+11	105. UTEP		5-6	-1.6206
-	106. Arkansas State	3-7	-1.6408
-2	107. Virginia		3-7	-1.6851
-12	108. Boston College	3-8	-1.7080
-2	109. Texas State	3-7	-1.7232
+8	110. Western Michigan	4-7	-1.7484
-7	111. Stanford		3-8	-1.8145
+5	112. Tulsa		4-7	-1.8593
+7	113. Virginia Tech	3-8	-1.8910
-6	114. Nebraska		3-8	-1.9777
-3	115. Northern Illinois	3-8	-2.2167
-2	116. Old Dominion	3-8	-2.3049
-6	117. Louisiana Tech	3-8	-2.3340
-9	118. Central Michigan	4-7	-2.3554
-6	119. New Mexico State	4-6	-2.3648
-5	120. Florida Intl	4-7	-2.5716
-	121. New Mexico		2-9	-2.8526

dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Nov 21, 2022

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
What’s it’s doing to make Charlotte lower than several teams above them with less wins?

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dirty shrimp money
Jan 8, 2001

Joey Freshwater posted:

What’s it’s doing to make Charlotte lower than several teams above them with less wins?

The biggest factor is the loss to William & Mary - I double count losses to FCS teams. Other than that it's being 131st in points allowed, 128th in defensive yards allowed, 118th in turnover margin, and 125th in my strength of schedule. They had a bad year.

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