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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Comrade Koba posted:mlmp08: there was no invasion. technically, it was a special military operation so when you say russia invaded ukraine you are factually and literally wrong. sorry for being correct, tankies. Technically correct is the best kind of correct.  Weka posted:Furthermore, Ukraine has recently invaded the capital of the Kherson oblast. Indeed! Why won't the world condemn the imperialistic aggression of Lesser Ukraine? (formerly known as Ukraine)
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Nov 21, 2022 07:57
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/KyleSimchuk/status/1594113562091610112?s=20&t=4hwmlOhYfTM-Y4bVKrbKCw 
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Nov 21, 2022 08:09
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The artist formerly known as Z
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Nov 21, 2022 08:13
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bankZ
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Nov 21, 2022 08:16
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V. Illych L. posted:it is a bit impressive that they're working themselves back into fascism by militant anti-communist revisionism at a time where *there is no credible communist movement*. your house is falling apart on its own merits, stop insisting that it's the fault of the monster under the bed
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Nov 21, 2022 08:16
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GenZ
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Nov 21, 2022 08:20
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IMO communism has never been in a better position globally.
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Nov 21, 2022 08:20
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Weka posted:IMO communism has never been in a better position globally. stalin could have really used chinese high-speed rail in his bank robbery
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Nov 21, 2022 08:22
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Weka posted:IMO communism has never been in a better position globally. Idk, there was that time frame where the USSR got the nuke and the sino-soviet split hadn't happened yet.
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Nov 21, 2022 08:25
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I feel you but America was booming of the war and the USSR and China not so much.
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Nov 21, 2022 08:28
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Weka posted:IMO communism has never been in a better position globally. as in it doesnt exist as any meaningful force at all?
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Nov 21, 2022 08:48
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Weka posted:British state media reporting on Ukrainian war crimes, even if they don't actually draw any conclusions to answer their titular question of "Were Russian soldiers shot after surrendering?" something chilling about that "power wheels" electric children's mini car used as a point of reference
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Nov 21, 2022 08:51
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quote:Why would NATO have no reason to exist after the Cold War? Looking at the situation now in Europe is one reason why it's better for it to exist. Without NATO, if Russia again tries to "revive" it's former Soviet might, what deterrent would western Europe have? quote:They even blame NATO expansionism for it, when they conveniently ignore that it's those ex-Warsaw Pact (Albania, Bulgaria, Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Slovakia)/Soviet (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) nations themselves who voluntarily joined (and NATO accommodated them) and not coerced by Washington just for the sake of expanding NATO next to the Russian border. quote:As far as I know, the neo nazi formations in the Ukrainian national guard receive just private donations of weapons, their own gear they purchased, older weapons or "requisitioned" from other Ukrainian military units in the professional army. gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 10:19 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Nov 21, 2022 09:01
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Al-Saqr posted:as in it doesnt exist as any meaningful force at all? Sure, provided Asia does not exist
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Nov 21, 2022 09:07
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the big red asia.
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Nov 21, 2022 09:11
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Raskolnikov38 posted:this sounds like buying russian gas with extra steps Look up where the EU buys its LNG from.
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Nov 21, 2022 10:23
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My "defensive alliance" sign on my short range first strike missiles is raising a lot of questions by the one country in range...
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Nov 21, 2022 10:33
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genericnick posted:Idk, there was that time frame where the USSR got the nuke and the sino-soviet split hadn't happened yet. the Soviets were always weaker then the western powers combined. communist China has stolen the means of production from the capitalists. it's a more sneaky strategy than giving everyone in the world an ak47 and trying to make revolutions, but it's worked
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Nov 21, 2022 10:41
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Pictured: Deng eyeing up the means of production.
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Nov 21, 2022 11:53
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You don't have to steal the means of production when the capitalists will just give it to you
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Nov 21, 2022 13:45
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"Deng hopped on Capital's back and started steering it around with a carrot dangling from a stick" remains my favorite summary of the last quarter of the 20th century.
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Nov 21, 2022 13:47
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Comrade Koba posted:mlmp08: there was no invasion. technically, it was a special military operation so when you say russia invaded ukraine you are factually and literally wrong. sorry for being correct, tankies. The SMO includes an invasion, not sure what point you are trying to make.
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Nov 21, 2022 13:57
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mlmp08 posted:The SMO includes an invasion, not sure what point you are trying to make. that you are being a dweeb
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Nov 21, 2022 14:00
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/KyleSimchuk/status/1594113562091610112?s=20&t=4hwmlOhYfTM-Y4bVKrbKCw Rememer Hlodmor
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Nov 21, 2022 14:01
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Raskolnikov38 posted:that you are being a dweeb Meh. A lot of people didn’t believe Russia would invade. Others made the correct call. poo poo happens.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:04
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Is it fair to say it is the correct call when it took like 75(30?) years of breathless repeating.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:14
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Weka posted:Furthermore, Ukraine has recently invaded the capital of the Kherson oblast. DancingShade posted:Indeed! Why won't the world condemn the imperialistic aggression of Lesser Ukraine? (formerly known as Ukraine) Ukraine has been invading the Județ of Bugeac for over 30 years
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Nov 21, 2022 14:14
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:Rememer 
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Nov 21, 2022 14:14
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Is it fair to say it is the correct call when it took like 75(30?) years of breathless repeating. The US warnings of invasion of Ukraine started in late fall/early winter of 2021 and grew in gravity and specificity leading up to the most recent invasion.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:18
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explains a lot about mlmp that he thinks making the same prediction over and over until it eventually comes true due to sheer coincidence is some sign of genius
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Nov 21, 2022 14:21
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Cerebral Bore posted:explains a lot about mlmp that he thinks making the same prediction over and over until it eventually comes true due to sheer coincidence is some sign of genius You can pretend to be smart by not knowing how anything actually happened, I guess. That completely ignores all the events from roughly 13 months ago through today, but then you can fill in the blanks with a self-serving and incorrect recall of the lead up to the war. That kind of self-certainty led to multiple posts about the genius of Russian Operations vs Ukraine only being capable of tactics and Deep Warfare rather than simply looking at what was happening with clearer eyes and coming to obviously different conclusions.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:24
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The grumbling about giving stuff away to Ukraine has really picked up pace recently. There was previously a lot of bluster about it but it seems like giving away winter clothes without consultation rubbed people the wrong way. Also, people are legitimately concerned about Freeland taking a top spot at NATO, not like you can blame them. Russia’s mistake was not having Red Tabs run the show, clearly. Imagine Napoleon and his marshals not using columns, or Wellington not forming squares. A military is a system, you can’t discard doctrine. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 14:27 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Nov 21, 2022 14:25
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mlmp08 posted:The US warnings of invasion of Ukraine started in late fall/early winter of 2021 The US had been warning of a coming invasion of Ukraine going back to 2014
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Nov 21, 2022 14:45
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gradenko_2000 posted:The US had been warning of a coming invasion of Ukraine going back to 2014 I think there is a big difference from a boilerplate speech about “Russian Aggression” vs this kind of statement from early December of 2021: ““The Russian plans call for a military offensive against Ukraine as soon as early 2022 with a scale of forces twice what we saw this past spring during Russia’s snap exercise near Ukraine’s borders,” said an administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information. “The plans involve extensive movement of 100 battalion tactical groups with an estimated 175,000 personnel, along with armor, artillery and equipment.” If the quote above is, to you, the same as generally grumbling about a country, that’s just your personal interpretation. There is a big difference, for example, in knowing that the US often uses an aggressive and interventionist foreign policy and noting a very real buildup of invasion forces along a border like the buildup to Desert Storm or OIF.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:52
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Also I don’t know masterful it was that the US looked at satellite data that clearly showed a build up. I would have said that Cspam in February probably wasn’t as open as it should have been to other possibilities (a common issue) but at the same time it didn’t make that much sense in the context of available information and motives, and in some ways it still doesn’t. It wasn’t the right call but I don’t think it was that unreasonable either. ———— I think the issue is that sometimes poo poo happens the way the US wants. It isn’t always the case but it happens.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:55
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cspam prediction curse continues, that's why everyone predicts Russians to keep retreating now.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:58
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Ardennes posted:Also I don’t know masterful it was that the US looked at satellite data that clearly showed a build up. I would have said that Cspam in February probably wasn’t as open as it should have been to other possibilities (a common issue) but at the same time it didn’t make that much sense in the context of available information and motives, and in some ways it still doesn’t. Yeah. Up through a portion of February, it still was plausible that it was a Russian threat and they could be dissuaded from attacking or limited to the donbass rather than going for full regime change. The US dodn’t reallly commit to Russia being sure of their plan to attack until mid to late February when the warnings went into overdrive. A lot of December, January and early February was several European powers and the US saying to Russia effectively “we see you are planning to invade your neighbor, but we recommend that you don’t do that, and we will support Ukraine.”
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Nov 21, 2022 15:01
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The Russian use of military buildups, war games and increased readiness during negotiations are extremely well known. They only indicate the use of force if no diplomatic pathway to resolve a crisis exists, and so US “foreknowledge” if anything indicates that there was no interest in avoiding war. How many times now have we seen pressure on the Ukraine not to negotiate? Externally as well as internally, killing their own chief negotiator being an obvious example, Boris Johnson flying to Kiev to scuttle talks being another. It’s no great feat to say “Russia will invade (if they see no peaceful resolution)”, if you are working to ensure that there is no peaceful resolution. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 15:04 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Nov 21, 2022 15:02
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mlmp08 posted:If the quote above is, to you, the same as generally grumbling about a country, that’s just your personal interpretation. https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/germany-concerned-about-aggressive-nato-stance-on-ukraine-a-1022193.html quote:General Philip Breedlove, the top NATO commander in Europe, stepped before the press in Washington. Putin, the 59-year-old said, had once again "upped the ante" in eastern Ukraine -- with "well over a thousand combat vehicles, Russian combat forces, some of their most sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery" having been sent to the Donbass. "What is clear," Breedlove said, "is that right now, it is not getting better. It is getting worse every day."
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Frosted Flake posted:The Russian use of military buildups, war games and increased readiness during negotiations are extremely well known. They only indicate the use of force if no diplomatic pathway to resolve a crisis exists, and so US “foreknowledge” if anything indicates that there was no interest in avoiding war. I don’t believe for a second that every snap exercise Russia has done (which is many of then) was a potential invasion that got negotiated away. Plenty of them are simply snap exercises as training and messaging. This most recent buildup to invade Ukraine was very different in size, scope, and intent.
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