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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
He should have just kept buying a few percent of the company at a time whenever the stock dipped. He would have had control in a few years for a lot less money.

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Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Charlz Guybon posted:

He should have just kept buying a few percent of the company at a time whenever the stock dipped. He would have had control in a few years for a lot less money.

Yeah but like most narcissists he has poor impulse control and had to have it naoow

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

Doggles posted:

I don't think I've seen this video in the thread before. It's new to me. Let's watch a Tesla identify a horse-drawn carriage.

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7131351993859329285

Tesla at least earns a courtesy point for not plowing full-speed through an unknown object, as opposed to what a self-driving Uber would do.

Do Teslas seriously not have a slow-moving vehicle ID for stuff like buggies, farm equipment, golf carts, and other not-quite-car things found on <25mph roads? I feel like if there's a special insignia for something (the reflective triangle in the US) that you're supposed to recognize on a driver's test a self-driving car should recognize them too.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Youth Decay posted:

Do Teslas seriously not have a slow-moving vehicle ID for stuff like buggies, farm equipment, golf carts, and other not-quite-car things found on <25mph roads? I feel like if there's a special insignia for something (the reflective triangle in the US) that you're supposed to recognize on a driver's test a self-driving car should recognize them too.

Yeah but this a software that has lots of blind spots and notorious behavior. Like it rolling stops through stop signs or just blasts through them if the car is going fast enough.

SniHjen
Oct 22, 2010

Two things jump out for me, when watching that video.

1st: it starts out believing it is a slow moving truck, why did it change its mind, when that was fine?

2nd: It doesn't have a "I'm unsure" option, it is too specific, a better solution would be making a box with a question mark in it. Maybe ask the passenger "what am I looking at?"

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Kwyndig posted:

Yeah but this a software that has lots of blind spots and notorious behavior. Like it rolling stops through stop signs or just blasts through them if the car is going fast enough.
The 'best' thing about the stop sign saga were all the Musk stans arguing that it didn't matter because a slow roll through is more efficient and everyone does it anyway. Which doesn't matter - it's still breaking the law!

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
The software also had a setting for slow rolling didn’t it? Like a literal “how much do you want to break the law by?” option.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Charlz Guybon posted:

He should have just kept buying a few percent of the company at a time whenever the stock dipped. He would have had control in a few years for a lot less money.

That's kinda possible but maybe not in the way you are thinking. You have to start filing SEC forms that are public about your intention to buy and sell public securities when you already own 5 or 10% of a publicly traded company. I don't recall which forms (I'm only familiar with the insider trading ones which is primarily form 4 and some form 3) but even as an "outsider" you'd have to start filing. Not just historically, but your intentions to purchase. So now the entire market knows you're going to purchase up to X shares of Y in the next Z days and.......yeah, doesn't really work out well when you're this level of attention seeker.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Doggles posted:

I don't think I've seen this video in the thread before. It's new to me. Let's watch a Tesla identify a horse-drawn carriage.

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7131351993859329285

Tesla at least earns a courtesy point for not plowing full-speed through an unknown object, as opposed to what a self-driving Uber would do.

Hey, a Tesla's able to simulate one of those cautionary tales from the "Texting Can Wait" videos.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



SniHjen posted:

1st: it starts out believing it is a slow moving truck, why did it change its mind, when that was fine?

lol if you think FSD has any conception of object permanence.

At their last AI Day there were hours of presentations about neural network architecture, maybe 5 minutes discussing training on simulations covering some tiny area of San Francisco (so you'd think it would be flawless there, right?), and approximately 0 seconds discussing validation, regression testing, or really any kind of performance or safety metrics.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Evil Fluffy posted:

The software also had a setting for slow rolling didn’t it? Like a literal “how much do you want to break the law by?” option.

Yup, the short lived "aggressive driving" toggle that would make it more likely to weave, cut people off, blow through yellow lights, and do rolling stops..

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Youth Decay posted:

Do Teslas seriously not have a slow-moving vehicle ID for stuff like buggies, farm equipment, golf carts, and other not-quite-car things found on <25mph roads? I feel like if there's a special insignia for something (the reflective triangle in the US) that you're supposed to recognize on a driver's test a self-driving car should recognize them too.

It draws my digger as a lorry mostly.

I do sometimes wonder if Tesla stole the code from some sort of ai dustbin lorry startup because where it really excels is identifying and drawing wheelie bins.

NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Nov 20, 2022

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Cabbit posted:

This seems like a good time to remind everyone of who the second largest stakeholder of Twitter is after Elon Musk:

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1593428819070914560?s=20&t=5SGCAXbjyX8wEMJiqcmZrg

By the time this is over I would not be surprised if the KSA has a.) a controlling stake in Twitter and/or b.) a controlling stake in Elon Musk's head.

For the Saudis, blowing up a critical vehicle for dissent would be worth the write-off.

Shazback
Jan 26, 2013
Why blow up what you can control and infiltrate?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

HelloSailorSign posted:

Hasn't Elon snubbed Trumpism in the past?

Because Elon going, "okay Donald, welcome back!" and Trump going, "lol fuckoff nerd" would be absolutely hilarious.

Quoting this for posterity

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
When is he bringing back Chuck "floorshitter" Grassley

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Shazback posted:

Why blow up what you can control and infiltrate?

At this point it seems like preventing Twitter from exploding would be the harder task, which is pretty typical for Elon's projects.

Owling Howl
Jul 17, 2019
Amazon lost billions on Alexa. Apparently running a voice assistant is finicky business but still.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

I'll take whatever I can get. woo :toot:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Owling Howl posted:

Amazon lost billions on Alexa. Apparently running a voice assistant is finicky business but still.

I figured that anything that's been pushed this hard for this long has to be a spectacular failure of a pet project, and here we are.....it is. I mean, every goddamn device with a microphone is trying to get you to "turn on Alexa". Every product on Amazon that could possibly be controlled over a network gets stamped with "Works with Alexa!".

Meanwhile the only things I've ever hear anyone do with Alexa is use it to play music or turns lights on and off. Selling units at cost for people to do this is a lovely business plan.

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


Still think it was an incredibly dick move by Amazon to pick an extremely common name for their AI -- Apple and Microsoft at least had the good sense to pick rare ones and Google just named it after itself.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
It's funny to me that their motivation with Alexa was to essentially make it so people can effortlessly buy things through it. Presumably they intended to do this by enabling people to make mindless purchases on a whim like "Alexa, buy me a new toaster", or something? But buying stuff on Amazon is already such a disaster thanks to the complete lack of product moderation, I don't think I'd trust Alexa to buy me a toaster that wasn't actually just one of those scams where they send you a printed jpeg of a toaster.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Magic Hate Ball posted:

It's funny to me that their motivation with Alexa was to essentially make it so people can effortlessly buy things through it. Presumably they intended to do this by enabling people to make mindless purchases on a whim like "Alexa, buy me a new toaster", or something? But buying stuff on Amazon is already such a disaster thanks to the complete lack of product moderation, I don't think I'd trust Alexa to buy me a toaster that wasn't actually just one of those scams where they send you a printed jpeg of a toaster.

"Alexa, buy me a P-p-p-p-p-powerbook."

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Szmitten posted:

Am I naive in thinking Elon's just gonna cave and a bunch of people will be invited back asap after the first hitch with regular work hours and WFH and will pick a new leader and gently caress off and everything resumes as it was?

I don't think Elon's going to gave on WFH ever. I don't even think it's a pride thing; I think he thinks he has a vested interest in defeating WFH because of the control WFO gives him over people.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1594415301466415104

Hey brah, you wanna rez at the DraftKings House or the Caesar's Sportsbook Palace? (no, that's not literally what's happening yet, just this:)


TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Magic Hate Ball posted:

It's funny to me that their motivation with Alexa was to essentially make it so people can effortlessly buy things through it. Presumably they intended to do this by enabling people to make mindless purchases on a whim like "Alexa, buy me a new toaster", or something? But buying stuff on Amazon is already such a disaster thanks to the complete lack of product moderation, I don't think I'd trust Alexa to buy me a toaster that wasn't actually just one of those scams where they send you a printed jpeg of a toaster.
I imagine it would default to a subscription plan for a new toaster jpeg every month

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

eXXon posted:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1594415301466415104

Hey brah, you wanna rez at the DraftKings House or the Caesar's Sportsbook Palace? (no, that's not literally what's happening yet, just this:)




this will surely end well and not with thousands of gambling addicted debt saddled 20-year-olds

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

this will surely end well and not with thousands of gambling addicted debt saddled 20-year-olds

I mean, isn't this just a gambling-addiction-replay of when a bunch of colleges would really push credit cards with super skeevy terms on their students?

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Neito posted:

I mean, isn't this just a gambling-addiction-replay of when a bunch of colleges would really push credit cards with super skeevy terms on their students?

yeah but now we get to look forward to the first college sports team that figures out how to get rich by throwing their own game.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

yeah but now we get to look forward to the first college sports team that figures out how to get rich by throwing their own game.

I'd hate to see such noble traditions as paying Div III teams to get slaughtered to pad out wins corrupted by gambling.

Audience here is doubtless the older and richer alumni, that looks like the stage truck so most people who see those ads are going to be doing so on TV. It's sort of old internet lore at this point but this is also the team that tigerdroppings was created for, to give fans a place to chat about football and politics.

Not that they're going to complain if any college aged kids sign up and get hooked, but like has been pointed out it's not exactly the kind of market you bling out a semi to park in front of a stadium for.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Neito posted:

I don't think Elon's going to gave on WFH ever. I don't even think it's a pride thing; I think he thinks he has a vested interest in defeating WFH because of the control WFO gives him over people.

It's absolutely this. Insecure dipshit execs/owners need to micromanage so they feel they're doing something and absolutely HATE work from home. WFH makes it clear just how irrelevant they are to the business and the entire structure of power they've built.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Magic Hate Ball posted:

It's funny to me that their motivation with Alexa was to essentially make it so people can effortlessly buy things through it. Presumably they intended to do this by enabling people to make mindless purchases on a whim like "Alexa, buy me a new toaster", or something? But buying stuff on Amazon is already such a disaster thanks to the complete lack of product moderation, I don't think I'd trust Alexa to buy me a toaster that wasn't actually just one of those scams where they send you a printed jpeg of a toaster.

I thought their motivation was to get an always-on microphone in as many households as possible under the guise of 'order stuff easily'.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

this will surely end well and not with thousands of gambling addicted debt saddled 20-year-olds

Pay off your student debt with gambling!

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Alexa was still a good idea for them. It’s a land grab. If they didn’t do it then Google and Apple would be controlling the market.

Their problem was overinvestment. They hired expensive teams to build features in Alexa that no one uses. I think some report said the vast majority of users use Alexa only for two or three basic features, like playing music or checking the weather.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Vegetable posted:

Alexa was still a good idea for them. It’s a land grab. If they didn’t do it then Google and Apple would be controlling the market.

Their problem was overinvestment. They hired expensive teams to build features in Alexa that no one uses. I think some report said the vast majority of users use Alexa only for two or three basic features, like playing music or checking the weather.

It's pretty much this, and it's pretty much why, AIUI. Amazon very much wants to be the third player in the connected devices space.

Alexa, play Skyrim Very Special Edition.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Vegetable posted:

Alexa was still a good idea for them. It’s a land grab. If they didn’t do it then Google and Apple would be controlling the market.

Their problem was overinvestment. They hired expensive teams to build features in Alexa that no one uses. I think some report said the vast majority of users use Alexa only for two or three basic features, like playing music or checking the weather.

So would it have taken a long time for the market to catch up to what Alexa is capable of?

I have family and friends who use Alexa and Google's voice command features pretty extensively. I know this isn't the most compelling use case, but it's really convenient for setting up multiple cooking timers when you're cooking a big meal.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


ninjahedgehog posted:

Still think it was an incredibly dick move by Amazon to pick an extremely common name for their AI -- Apple and Microsoft at least had the good sense to pick rare ones and Google just named it after itself.
They already owned the trademark on Alexa, a company they bought in 1999. (I was at that Alexa's launch party. The food was excellent.) Words that aren't already trademarked are very hard to find in this century.

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine

Epic High Five posted:

I'd hate to see such noble traditions as paying Div III teams to get slaughtered to pad out wins corrupted by gambling.

Audience here is doubtless the older and richer alumni, that looks like the stage truck so most people who see those ads are going to be doing so on TV. It's sort of old internet lore at this point but this is also the team that tigerdroppings was created for, to give fans a place to chat about football and politics.

Not that they're going to complain if any college aged kids sign up and get hooked, but like has been pointed out it's not exactly the kind of market you bling out a semi to park in front of a stadium for.

LSU mass emailed current students, including lots of whom were under the legal age to gamble at the time, promotional sign up codes and asked them to sign up. Its absolutely not just aimed at the older and richer alumni.

Its all covered in good depth in the NYT articles.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Blut posted:

LSU mass emailed current students, including lots of whom were under the legal age to gamble at the time, promotional sign up codes and asked them to sign up. Its absolutely not just aimed at the older and richer alumni.

Its all covered in good depth in the NYT articles.

Oooookay yeah I got the wrong read on that, extremely horrible.

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Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Neito posted:

I mean, isn't this just a gambling-addiction-replay of when a bunch of colleges would really push credit cards with super skeevy terms on their students?

"If you sign up for this CC we give you a free T-Shirt too!"

I wonder how many applications were filled out with complete bullshit info by students looking for freebies. If it's less than 50% I'd be amazed.

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