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CPColin posted:(some enlisted crewman in a Jeffries tube on deck 41 winks out of existence and nobody notices) Everyone posted:So that's one reason the only enlisted crewman is O'Brien. (Chief watching the crewman disappear) 
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MikeJF posted:I'm all for making GBS threads on Berman now but I feel like blaming him for 'I didn't get a totally different episode that I imagined in my head' is pushing it somewhat even for him. no, I was making two separate complaints but I get why it was confusing. 1) I think it was a better episode without those last five minutes 2) The "genghis khan with an ak47" idea that Berman was trying to write an episode around, one that is pretty fun and a scifi staple that would be good Trek, isn't in the final product at all. It's maybe the story of the guy who gets the weapons he sells to a conqueror. (My source for that idea is Memory Alpha, I like reading the background details for every episode as I go.) I think 1) is partially Berman's fault but is just a general failure, I think 2) is absolutely Berman's fault for failing to deliver the cool idea he was trying to write about in the first place.
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Nov 20, 2022 19:39
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Related to the same episode: I've always thought Matt Frewer, who played Berlinghoff Rasmussen, is underrated as an actor. Max Headroom was the best and worst thing that ever happened to his career -- it was his first big break, but so many people still just can't see him as anything else.
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Nov 20, 2022 20:17
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davidspackage posted:(Chief watching the crewman disappear) I had a dream early this morning that O'Brien got a cameo in the new season of Picard and the way they spitefully killed him off was that he blew up in a shuttle craft during some dumb action sequence and the explosion somehow triggered a wormhole that sent him into an evil hell dimension at just the right moment. It was the most Miles O'Brien way he could have died, and I applaud my subconscious for concocting it.
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Nov 20, 2022 20:28
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Why does everyone hate o'brien so much?
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Nov 20, 2022 21:49
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wesleywillis posted:Why does everyone hate o'brien so much? We love O'Brien. The universe hates him though.
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Nov 20, 2022 22:09
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wesleywillis posted:Why does everyone hate o'brien so much?
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wesleywillis posted:Why does everyone hate o'brien so much? Starfleet is full of scabs that's why
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Everyone posted:So that's one reason the only enlisted crewman is O'Brien.  oh sure, eeeeeeveryone always lines up to polish the Chief's buffers, but nobody's ever got time for lowly Crewman Simon Tarsas
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Nov 20, 2022 23:45
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Pascallion posted:Remember Me? The answer for enlisted crew on the Enterprise is "No"
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Nov 20, 2022 23:50
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Nessus posted:why they speak British in France Things that look like shitposts: Picard S2 addresses this
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Nov 21, 2022 00:00
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Whenever I remember that show, all I see is a post-it note reading "wasted potential." What was it again?
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CPColin posted:Things that look like shitposts: Picard S2 addresses this And it's actually a really good explanation, which is surprising given that it's Star Trek: Picard. The Nazis drove the Picard family out of France when they invaded and occupied the country in World War II, so they went to England as refugees, and then just kind of stayed in their adoptive homeland for the next century and picked up the British accent in the process before one branch of the family finally moved back to La Barre. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Nov 21, 2022 04:16
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I thought it was super weird that there was even a chateau for the Picard's to return to but from what I understand there are loads of abandoned chateaus in France right now that no one wants because of the cost of upkeep and a bunch of other issues.
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8one6 posted:I thought it was super weird that there was even a chateau for the Picard's to return to but from what I understand there are loads of abandoned chateaus in France right now that no one wants because of the cost of upkeep and a bunch of other issues. There’s some very popular home Reno shows about random rich people (mostly American rich wives) buying abandoned chateaus and renovating them into their dream homes
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8one6 posted:I thought it was super weird that there was even a chateau for the Picard's to return to but from what I understand there are loads of abandoned chateaus in France right now that no one wants because of the cost of upkeep and a bunch of other issues. Clan Picard was just playing the long game and waiting for the post-scarcity end of money before they came swooping back in and took their home back for free 
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I'm going through TNG and got to the episode of where that kid wants to be like Data and lolling hard when Data critiques that kids work
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nine-gear crow posted:And it's actually a really good explanation, which is surprising given that it's Star Trek: Picard. The Nazis drove the Picard family out of France when they invaded and occupied the country in World War II, so they went to England as refugees, and then just kind of stayed in their adoptive homeland for the next century and picked up the British accent in the process before one branch of the family finally moved back to La Barre. I know I for one have the same accent as my great+ grandparents from 300 years ago. This is as stupid as the rest of Picard sounds.
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Winifred Madgers posted:I know I for one have the same accent as my great+ grandparents from 300 years ago. This is as stupid as the rest of Picard sounds. No, as in they moved back to France from England when Picard was a boy, I think.
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Winifred Madgers posted:I know I for one have the same accent as my great+ grandparents from 300 years ago. This is as stupid as the rest of Picard sounds. Also all of his weird fantasies about being a Victorian gentleman are because of his inherited trauma from being forced to live in England for a bit
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Colm Meaney just said he hoped the Bashir/O'Brian relationship would turn romantic. Thoughts on that sort of radical left turn? Season 7 would have been different. The full four-person O'Brian polycule would have been wild. Everybody loves Myles! Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Colm Meaney just said he hoped the Bashir/O'Brian relationship would turn romantic. They didn't have the balls to have gay background characters, they definitely wouldn't have had the balls to have a married Miles leave Keiko for Bashir or bring Bashir into the relationship. But this has made me want a "Garak and O'Brien team up to rescue Bashir, and everyone knows why they're doing it but nobody says it outright" plot. EDIT: Also, I saw that clip from whatever that was, and even though in the past few years there's been more and more debunking of Berman and his flunkies' claims that Avery Brooks was hard to work with, unapproachable, temperamental, diva-like, etc., it was still really nice to see them asked essentially "what working relationship really stuck with you?" and have both Meaney and Terry Farrell say "Avery" and talk about their respect for him and how much he helped Farrell. disaster pastor fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Nov 21, 2022 |
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I get the sense that Avery Brooks wasn't the kind to have a super-close personal casual friendship with most of the cast, but he was very dedicated to the craft and absolutely would've had a great working relationship in terms of acting/directing and mentoring and helping everyone around him become better in turn.
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People can be difficult for the boss and great for the coworkers. Usually someone who's really great to work with.
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He was probably annoying for the executives because I bet they'd be like OH gently caress IT GOOD ENOUGH LET'S GET IT IN THE CAN TICK TICK GUYS and he was like 'No let's to it properly' or like he'd argue with them about writers doing dumb character things. You know, the things good actors do.
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I would love to hear Avery Brooks going on a long, passionate diatribe regarding thespian craft
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I feel like Avery is someone that genuine people get along with and love and that fake people in corporate world absolutely will never understand.
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It's jazz baby, the music is all the executives you DON'T give a gently caress about
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Brawnfire posted:I would love to hear Avery Brooks going on a long, passionate diatribe regarding thespian craft Doesn't he teach acting at a university these days? I have to imagine his students get a hell of an education in that regard.
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MikeJF posted:No, as in they moved back to France from England when Picard was a boy, I think. Oh, the timeline in the post I was replying to didn't match up with that.
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No Dignity posted:Also all of his weird fantasies about being a Victorian gentleman are because of his inherited trauma from being forced to live in England for a bit Winifred Madgers posted:Oh, the timeline in the post I was replying to didn't match up with that.
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Well a century after WW2 is like, almost the present, at this point. TNG is what, the 2370s?
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Nessus posted:To be fair, living in England is very traumatic 147 I think edit: I misremembered, 137
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Brawnfire posted:I would love to hear Avery Brooks going on a long, passionate diatribe regarding thespian craft Lemniscate Blue posted:Doesn't he teach acting at a university these days? I have to imagine his students get a hell of an education in that regard. Rutgers University, in loving Jersey. I used to live in Princeton and thought of him every time I drove by.
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Winifred Madgers posted:Oh, the timeline in the post I was replying to didn't match up with that. For what it's worth, I don't think they actually really said when the Picards moved back to France from England, only that they did, eventually. If they put a date on it, it went right over my head because my god those back episodes of season 2 were just so bloated with stuff and yet also so inconsequential.
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It arrived!
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nine-gear crow posted:For what it's worth, I don't think they actually really said when the Picards moved back to France from England, only that they did, eventually. If they put a date on it, it went right over my head because my god those back episodes of season 2 were just so bloated with stuff and yet also so inconsequential. I prefer the secondhand nitpicking myself.
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I read somewhere (probably here) that Avery Brooks bonded with Cirroc Lofton as sort of a surrogate father/son pair since everyone spent so much time filming and Lofton needed a father figure for all those long filming days. I guess they're still pretty close. But I agree with this take:Mike the TV posted:I feel like Avery is someone that genuine people get along with and love and that fake people in corporate world absolutely will never understand.
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https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1387753539359821827
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gently caress that's cute. I'd like to see cirroc lofton on prodigy.
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