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What is the most powerful flying bug? This poll is closed. |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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crimea is, by geography, both incredibly defensible and also not on the front lines i wouldn't read too much into this other than that defeatism is starting to seriously seep into the russian military consciousness e; it is *possible* but straight-up letting the ukrainians back into crimea would be a complete capitulation which i don't think putin's government would survive.
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Nov 22, 2022 17:08
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Zeroisanumber posted:Iirc, the way that Ukraine was approaching the advance into Crimea meant that they would essentially outflank and make useless a bunch of Russian prepared defenses. Still strange that they'd pull out without a fight. some of the replies saying that it's likely just to keep out of himars range
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Nov 22, 2022 17:09
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Not So Fast posted:Sweden getting in on the arresting collaborators game too. If the Sweeds think you aren’t talkative that’s a huge red flag.
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Nov 22, 2022 17:10
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V. Illych L. posted:crimea is, by geography,... incredibly defensible The Germans in 1941 had already marched as far as east Rostov and they still wouldn't be able to take Sevastopol until about six months later, well into 1942
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Nov 22, 2022 17:14
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Sieges of Sevastopol have historically gone really well for the attacker and I have no doubt Ukraine would make Cardigan proud. But more to the point, whatever the Russian “Red Line” is, if they lose their Black Sea base to a nation they could extinguish if they only had the will, I don’t see how the government survives. Imagine Gibraltar being lost to the Argies. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 17:22 on Nov 22, 2022 |
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Nov 22, 2022 17:19
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Frosted Flake posted:Sieges of Sevastopol have historically gone really well for the attacker and I have no doubt Ukraine would make Cardigan proud. even considering how poorly the russians have been performing and how little will they have to fight, it would be shocking if they allowed a push on crimea
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Nov 22, 2022 17:26
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I don’t think ukriane is dumb enough to invade Russia but who knows
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Nov 22, 2022 17:26
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euphronius posted:I don’t think ukriane is dumb enough to invade Russia but who knows if russia allows it they absolutely will
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Nov 22, 2022 17:27
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There's a difference between Russia allowing it and the people there allowing it.
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Nov 22, 2022 17:30
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euphronius posted:I don’t think ukriane is dumb enough to invade Russia but who knows Russia has done a poor job delineating what they consider “Russia”.
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Nov 22, 2022 17:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/kaylapop_/status/1591606521234063362?t=j06GACTc52DBeLnPbn5UQw&s=19 Chinese commies thinking they know better than the Communist Party of Russia and Ukraine is just correct
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Nov 22, 2022 17:36
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https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1595090607449554952
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Nov 22, 2022 17:40
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Frosted Flake posted:If there was that sort of consensus, then why not mobilize and do it properly with 700k men in two Combined and one Tank Armies, and drive deep to Lvov and Kiev from the onset? The US hasn't mobilized in what? 50 years? And everyone who's anyone loves wars. I don't think they are worried about people who are currently in the political system.
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Nov 22, 2022 17:48
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Yeah, I don’t really see the reasoning from available information on mass evacuation of the military at this point beyond some backroom deal we aren’t party too. This war is weird enough anything could happen but it would be very much the Kremlin making choices by fiat. Also, while there are bridges there are also direct land connections between Crimea and the mainland which would be “unsinkable” even if there were occasionally hit with MRLS fire. It really can’t be severed in the same way as Kherson. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 17:57 on Nov 22, 2022 |
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Nov 22, 2022 17:54
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https://twitter.com/yungkitty404/status/1595101101744963587?t=NSI_VVAOJr6trPZp6GsHVw&s=19
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Nov 22, 2022 18:10
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Sweden should be destroyed
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Nov 22, 2022 18:12
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https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1594753078774751234
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Nov 22, 2022 18:20
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🤔
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Nov 22, 2022 18:22
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Lmao
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Nov 22, 2022 18:23
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Does enhanced monitoring mean making sure crooked politicians never see the inside of a courtroom or?
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Nov 22, 2022 18:25
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Crimea being taken back ensures Zelensky the presidency for life.
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Nov 22, 2022 18:26
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If the kiev regime starts realistically threatening Crimea I think it's time for Russia to consider using nuclear weapons. In my opinion
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Nov 22, 2022 18:28
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servant of the people season 4 coming up with some obvious twists
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Nov 22, 2022 18:29
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lol ukraine is not joining the EU any time soon
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Nov 22, 2022 18:30
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If the EU contradicts the laws of Ukraine, then the EU should change.
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Nov 22, 2022 18:33
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Somehow I think the EU will make an exception so long as Kiev continues to throw open the doors to Ukraines natural resources for pillage by the west and keeps stripping workers rights and protections to provide Europe with cheap labor
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Nov 22, 2022 18:33
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paul_soccer12 posted:Somehow I think the EU will make an exception so long as Kiev continues to throw open the doors to Ukraines natural resources for pillage by the west and keeps stripping workers rights and protections to provide Europe with cheap labor why offer them the benefit of EU membership when the government of ukraine will sell out everything in exchange for some lovely aluminum artillery pieces and DRM wonder rockets
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Nov 22, 2022 18:35
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Just things the good guys do
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Nov 22, 2022 18:45
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paul_soccer12 posted:If the kiev regime starts realistically threatening Crimea I think it's time for Russia to consider using nuclear weapons. In my opinion probably won’t work against human wave attacks on quad bikes though
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Nov 22, 2022 18:48
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Rutibex posted:why offer them the benefit of EU membership when the government of ukraine will sell out everything in exchange for some lovely aluminum artillery pieces and DRM wonder rockets as we americans know, the best kind of cheap labor you can force to work in virtual slavery comes from people immigrating without any legal protections at all, also
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Nov 22, 2022 19:01
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Yeah, the future isn’t looking bright for the Ukrainian people even if Kiev wins.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:02
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paul_soccer12 posted:If the kiev regime starts realistically threatening Crimea I think it's time for Russia to consider using nuclear weapons. In my opinion IMHO that's an overreaction. Only if they reach Rostov.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:04
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Donrf posted:More and more I'm reminded of "the government lives on another planet". Th I guess the Russian government is still playing games instead of taking it seriously, oh well.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:04
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Lostconfused posted:(from t.me/donrf22/9684, via tgsa) That one may need some context. Going back, I guess you could argue that Kherson was always going to be plagued with supply issues due to bombardment but it was a bit weird how during Kharkov there was almost no push back and Russian forces weren’t even close. If they give up on the land bridge and Crimea without a fight, there has to be something we just don’t know if not can’t know. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 19:10 on Nov 22, 2022 |
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Nov 22, 2022 19:06
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, the future isn’t looking bright for the Ukrainian people even if Kiev wins. They would literally be better off if Russia just took over
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Nov 22, 2022 19:07
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The people of Ukraine would be infinitely better off if their government surrendered on day 1, but the welfare of regular people has literally zero impact on what the ruling class decides is going to happen
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Nov 22, 2022 19:10
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Sure, why not. 500 is a soldier refusing to serve in the special military operation. Supposedly the majority of losses the Russian army suffered during this whole mess are all 500. So while mobilization did start, anyone smart or wealthy enough can still duck out by getting a lawyer. Just seems like an indication that the Russian government still doesn't want to bother the people too much with this business.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:11
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PiratePrentice posted:The people of Ukraine would be infinitely better off if their government surrendered on day 1, but the welfare of regular people has literally zero impact on what the ruling class decides is going to happen That’s not entirely true - as their understanding of the Georgia war is: “The Georgian army held out for two days, but on the third day its lines broke and it retreated toward Tbilisi. The Russians advanced but, with the Georgian army prepared to fight for the capital, stopped short.” The ruling class decided that risking the welfare of regular people, rather than surrendering on Day 1, was their best course of action. The ruling class dared Russia to storm Kiev and armed the populace to ensure that it would bear as high a human cost as possible. If they were only indifferent to people’s welfare they wouldn’t have actively put them in harm’s way.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:17
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Granted, I think almost all governments work in a similar manner to be honest. They are perhaps making it a bit easier than normal but there are plenty of stories from Vietnam of nurses pretty much rubber stamping evaluations. That said, Moscow just isn’t treating it like a total war…it is barely treating it like a war and even that one is a bit debatable. I would say if the Russians were just pulling back then they would want to exit the war but they are still being growing damage to Ukraine’s infrastructure.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:19
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It's crazy how much this guy knows about Russian military movements. It's a good thing that Ukrainians can't speak Russian, or else they could really use this information
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