[Ukraine] EU: Nice minister, shame if something were to happen...

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Jon Pod Van Damm: Apr 6, 2009; THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC

Throatwarbler posted:

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1594760417997623298?s=19

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:09

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# ? May 26, 2024 00:12

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

It's crazy how much this guy knows about Russian military movements. It's a good thing that Ukrainians can't speak Russian, or else they could really use this information

Militaries run on rumours, and that the rumours going around are about withdrawals rather than buildups for the next big push might just reflect a mood. I wouldn�t credit any Ukrainian �audio recordings�, or even say it indicates morale issues, just that soldiers are always speculating and gossiping and what they are speculating and gossiping about reflects the feeling in their unit at a given time. The telegram rumour mill is sort of similar in how it fluctuates from doom and gloom to the next One Weird Truck, but since it�s spectators and not participants doesn�t have that same connection to time and place as rumours in battalion.

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:10

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

the next One Weird Truck

ukrainian technicals confirmed

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:17

V. Illych L.: Apr 11, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

ted hitler hunter posted:

idgi

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:18

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

V. Illych L. posted:

idgi

Don't invite your neighbor over if you're in Sweden. It's how they find the spies.

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:19

nomad2020: Jan 30, 2007

V. Illych L. posted:

idgi

Imagine Tobe Hooper, director of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, being arrested for making Texas look bad.

VV- hope so, but my disbelief has been thoroughly suspended.

nomad2020 has issued a correction as of 20:35 on Nov 22, 2022

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:25

speng31b: May 8, 2010

i think that post is a joke? afaik ari aster wasnt arrested

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:27

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

speng31b posted:

i think that post is a joke? afaik ari aster wasnt arrested

if he had been, posting about it would probably be a crime under the new law

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:34

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Throatwarbler posted:

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1594760417997623298?s=19

I was assured Nordic Democracy would guarantee this kind of thing never happens. They are nations of laws

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:48

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

mawarannahr posted:

I was assured Nordic Democracy would guarantee this kind of thing never happens. They are nations of laws

couple years ago I read a danish ww2 history book, and one thing that stuck with me was a bit on how, when the nazis took over danish government, some of their private diary entries and documents revealed the german soldiers and administrators found the scale of our police state a bit beyond the pale.

# ? Nov 22, 2022 20:55

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

mawarannahr posted:

I was assured Nordic Democracy would guarantee this kind of thing never happens. They are nations of laws

A nation of laws that passed a new law. If you don't like it, have you tried voting????

# ? Nov 22, 2022 21:12

evilmiera: Dec 14, 2009; Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

speng31b posted:

i think that post is a joke? afaik ari aster wasnt arrested

It is 100 percent a joke. The Socdems lost power in the last election to a coalition of rightwingers propped up by the far-right.

# ? Nov 22, 2022 21:17

paul_soccer12: Jan 5, 2020; by Fluffdaddy

evilmiera posted:

It is 100 percent a joke. The Socdems lost power in the last election to a coalition of rightwingers propped up by the far-right.

stop posting

# ? Nov 22, 2022 21:18

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/sbobkov/status/1595080975763243008

The tank factories are very busy these days.

# ? Nov 22, 2022 21:37

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

evilmiera posted:

It is 100 percent a joke. The Socdems lost power in the last election to a coalition of rightwingers propped up by the far-right.

the right wing lost power to the right wing, nordic democracy in a nutshell

# ? Nov 22, 2022 21:52

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

Comrade Koba posted:

lol, missed this gem:

Iuliia Mendel is also one of the various insane Ukrainian figures on Twitter; her tweets have been posted here many times before.

# ? Nov 22, 2022 22:30

Ferdinand Bardamu: Apr 30, 2013

What ever happened to that hillbilly boomer from Texas? He was palling around with the Russian army back in February/March. I hope he's settled down in a dacha somewhere and sired a few half-breed Orclings.

# ? Nov 22, 2022 22:39

THS2: Oct 2, 2021

WaryWarren posted:

What ever happened to that hillbilly boomer from Texas? He was palling around with the Russian army back in February/March. I hope he's settled down in a dacha somewhere and sired a few half-breed Orclings.

him and the one legged guy fought to the death

# ? Nov 22, 2022 23:46

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

WaryWarren posted:

What ever happened to that hillbilly boomer from Texas? He was palling around with the Russian army back in February/March. I hope he's settled down in a dacha somewhere and sired a few half-breed Orclings.

favorite story about this guy is that during the initial fighting in 2014, a Vice reporter asked the other soldiers in the militia unit if they thought he was a CIA agent. the response was "no," and when asked why they thought so, one of the militia said something along the lines of "just look at him."

# ? Nov 23, 2022 00:06

Starsfan: Sep 29, 2007; This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

WaryWarren posted:

What ever happened to that hillbilly boomer from Texas? He was palling around with the Russian army back in February/March. I hope he's settled down in a dacha somewhere and sired a few half-breed Orclings.

would be happy to get an update on this guy as well as the three irish dudes who were stealing donation money by cos-playing soldiers in Ukraine

# ? Nov 23, 2022 00:16

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Starsfan posted:

would be happy to get an update on this guy as well as the three irish dudes who were stealing donation money by cos-playing soldiers in Ukraine

dont forget the goony lpr reporter

# ? Nov 23, 2022 00:22

SplitSoul: Dec 31, 2000

Stumbled upon this gem again.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5HemK_H2f9/

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:06

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

Anarchist Florida Man seems to have been shook and needed to reaffirm to himself his internalized beliefs.

https://youtu.be/fyaG64rGWoU

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:23

Dixon Chisholm: Jan 2, 2020

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

Ukraine has been invading the Județ of Bugeac for over 30 years

Bugeac is the strongest bug.

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:34

Starsfan: Sep 29, 2007; This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Anarchist Florida Man seems to have been shook and needed to reaffirm to himself his internalized beliefs.

https://youtu.be/fyaG64rGWoU

NATO has no aggressive intentions because they passed up on a "golden" opportunity to enter a nuclear conflict with Russia and Russia knew that NATO would pass up on an oppurtunity to go to war which is why they launched the missile at Poland to blow up that grain silo so therefore Russia was lying when they said the reason they invaded Ukraine was to prevent Ukraine joining a hostile military alliance against them

The logic is unbreakable

***Wait a second in one breath he says that it's obvious that the US / NATO would conjure up an excuse to go to war with someone out of thin air (AKA Iraq) because they are incredibly craven and opportunistic but then later he says that instigating wars or being aggressive has never been in NATO's playbook and Russia is making that up

Starsfan has issued a correction as of 01:53 on Nov 23, 2022

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:35

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Anarchist Florida Man seems to have been shook and needed to reaffirm to himself his internalized beliefs.

https://youtu.be/fyaG64rGWoU

lol

his takes are not great on average but this is stupid as gently caress even so from him

please read books people i am begging you

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:36

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

i just like how beau went from criticizing us foreign policy under trump to outright endorsing US state department positions under biden

really makes you think

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:42

Dixon Chisholm: Jan 2, 2020

Zodium posted:

it's me, i'm shelling the zaporizhia plant.

I'll kill you for that.

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:42

speng31b: May 8, 2010

Dixon Chisholm posted:

I'll kill you for that.

now, mods, this may seem actionable but please keep in mind it would be a valid military target

# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:49

iCe-CuBe.: Jun 9, 2011

I will die for the safety of Nievsky Zaporizhia Petrogradovich Oblast

# ? Nov 23, 2022 02:10

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Anarchist Florida Man seems to have been shook and needed to reaffirm to himself his internalized beliefs.

https://youtu.be/fyaG64rGWoU

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Beau_of_the_Fifth_Column

quote:

Trivia
He has a background as a military contractor and trainer.

lmao

# ? Nov 23, 2022 02:31

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

here are some more details, with a chat log, about the guy who got fired from ap.

https://www.semafor.com/article/11/22/2022/ap-fired-a-reporter-after-a-dangerous-blunder-slack-messages-reveal-a-chaotic-process

quote:

A 10-minute miscommunication on Slack between journalists at the Associated Press resulted in an erroneous report last week that appeared momentarily to bring tensions between NATO and Russia to their highest point since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Last Tuesday, AP posted a news alert saying that a �senior U.S. intelligence official says Russian missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, killing two people,� and noting that leaders in Poland were �holding an emergency meeting due to a �crisis situation.��

The report, which would have represented a Russian missile striking a member of NATO, immediately sparked fear of a dramatic escalation of tensions between the US and Russia.

But national security officials said the report was false, and the Associated Press retracted the piece a day later. On Monday, it fired James LaPorta, the national security reporter for the wire service who got the initial tip that set the story in motion.

LaPorta�s firing was first [reported](https://www.thedailybeast.com/ap-fires-reporter-behind-retracted-russian-missiles-story) by the Daily Beast, and [confirmed](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/11/21/james-laporta-associated-press-poland-russia-missile/) by the Washington Post. Both stories quoted AP sources and put the blame squarely on the reporter. The Beast reported that LaPorta left �the impression that the story�s sourcing had been approved.�

But the slack messages on which the incident played out tell a different story, of honest mistakes, internal confusion, and a lack of a clear process that led to a disaster for one of the few news organizations whose Twitter presence is an authoritative account of world affairs.

On Tuesday afternoon at 1:32 PM ET, LaPorta wrote in an internal Slack channel that he�d been told by a senior US intelligence source that Russian missiles crossed into Moldova and Poland. LaPorta described the source as an �official (vetted by Ron Nixon),� referring to the publication�s VP of news and investigations.

But while Nixon had approved the use of that specific anonymous source in the past, people involved said, Nixon was not aware of that tip or that story. LaPorta did not exactly claim that Nixon had approved the source in this case, but his words were interpreted by the editors to mean that he did.

Lisa Leff, an editor on the European desk, immediately asked if the wire service could send an AP alert, or if they would need confirmation from another source.

�That call is above my pay grade,� LaPorta replied.

When Leff asked if LaPorta could put together a story, he told the Slack channel that he was not around.

�I�m actually at a doctor�s appointment. What I passed along is all I know at the moment,� he said.

Deputy European news editor Zeina Karam ultimately decided to publish, believing that Nixon had vetted the source, and the alert was sent out at 1:41 PM ET, less than ten minutes after LaPorta�s initial message.

But the story was false. The initial tip may have been a true accounting of what senior officials thought in the minutes after the explosion in Poland. But it was wrong, as is often true amid the fog of war and wartime journalism. NATO officials later determined that the missiles were likely fired by Ukrainian air defense. The Associated Press took the story down, and issued a correction saying that �subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack.�

LaPorta was suspended on Thursday morning, according to a source familiar with the situation, and fired on Monday after a review by the wire service.

In a statement to Semafor, he said that he would �love to comment but I�ve been ordered by AP not to comment."

# ? Nov 23, 2022 02:31

speng31b: May 8, 2010

mawarannahr posted:

here are some more details, with a chat log, about the guy who got fired from ap.

https://www.semafor.com/article/11/22/2022/ap-fired-a-reporter-after-a-dangerous-blunder-slack-messages-reveal-a-chaotic-process

its really cool to see that all the people at ap are just as loving stupid as random nafos on twitter

# ? Nov 23, 2022 02:37