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Leperflesh posted:six mana tho, yeesh i mean, it's not a good card but as a common in jumpstart it'll probably be fine
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Nov 23, 2022 00:23
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Framboise posted:Both my calendar and my coin flip commander deck (from literally a year ago at this point) arrived today. Nice! I was honestly shocked at how many foils I pulled, the store page said each card had a 30% chance of being a foil, and I ended up with 14 of them. Foils: Lim-Dul's Vault Squee, Goblin Nabob Chrome Mox Lightning Helix Heritage Druid Elspeth, Sun's Champion Dragonlord Ojutai Thalia, Heretic Cathar Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh Arclight Phoenix Emry, Lurker of the Loch SHARK TYPHOON Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion Lotus Field
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Nov 23, 2022 00:31
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definitely offload the foil chrome mox if you don't care for it, that sucker's like 110 bucks right now and dropping pretty quickly.
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Nov 23, 2022 04:53
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W.T. Fits posted:Nice! I was honestly shocked at how many foils I pulled, the store page said each card had a 30% chance of being a foil, and I ended up with 14 of them. That first one is relevant to my interests
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Nov 23, 2022 05:10
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W.T. Fits posted:Nice! I was honestly shocked at how many foils I pulled, the store page said each card had a 30% chance of being a foil, and I ended up with 14 of them. Yeah, you definitely got the home run on this one, nice. You got pretty much all the high dollar ones.
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Nov 23, 2022 06:15
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wait even the advent calendar product was a gamble? Wizards, ffs.
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Nov 23, 2022 06:20
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It was known from the start, yeah. Was definitely hoping for better odds on mine, but they're still good cards, many of which on my to-buy list to begin with.
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So uh, anyone get shipped a second copy after only ordering one advent calender? A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Nov 23, 2022 |
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Nov 23, 2022 07:06
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I stopped by my LGS to pick up some BRO packs, grabbed a collector booster and 3 set boosters, and they...they just poured promos upon me. I was not expecting to walk out with almost a booster pack's worth of promos. happy for it, too, because my back slot of the collector pack was a full art foil buy-a-box promo
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Nov 23, 2022 08:10
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I would have sleeved that Windfall before leaving the store lol edit wait why is that so cheap, im getting old
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Nov 23, 2022 08:43
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Captain Invictus posted:happy for it, too, because my back slot of the collector pack was a full art foil buy-a-box promo Lol you can pull foil advertising cards? That's hilarious
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Nov 23, 2022 11:14
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Rutibex posted:Lol you can pull foil advertising cards? That's hilarious Buy a box promos are specific cards that you get when you buy a box, not a card encouraging you to buy a box - and they can see play (Kenrith being a big recentish example)
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Nov 23, 2022 11:40
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Buy a box promos are specific cards that you get when you buy a box, not a card encouraging you to buy a box - and they can see play (Kenrith being a big recentish example) Ahhh, sorry I just started reading this thread because I've been playing magic over lunch with some new friends. I haven't bought a magic card in years, I love the game but the sales model absolutely doesn't work for me. I'd be very happy if they made magic into a LCG and let me buy a full set of Antiquities or Legends for $40 print on demand. But obviously they would lose money doing that 
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CatstropheWaitress posted:wait even the advent calendar product was a gamble? Wizards, ffs. Yeah. The random foiling was the reason I decided not to get it. If there was an option for no foils I would have been in.
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Anyone who FINALLY received their coinflip Secret Lair precon decks, are the cards curled from the foiling?
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Rutibex posted:Ahhh, sorry I just started reading this thread because I've been playing magic over lunch with some new friends. I haven't bought a magic card in years, I love the game but the sales model absolutely doesn't work for me. lol I've been avoiding this game most my life because I hate the gambling and business model of it, but also know I can totally be grifted on poo poo like this. Depending on what you wanna do, you can play cheaply theoretically, but goddamn if you wanna explore it's gonna cost ya. These days I've started to just get proxies of any card over a certain amount, that seems to lower over time. 2-3 bucks or so per proxy of basically anything expensive and neato for a deck. There's also even cheaper options like MPCFill I need to explore, maybe just print entire decks in one batch rather than mixing select proxies into deck. The funness of this game is only matched by the shittiness of it's intended economics. I hope proxy normalization continues especially since income inequality aint getting any better. Everyone I've introduced to the game had a blast and would probably enjoy playing it again or even regularly but lol you have to be predisposed to this kind of suckery to see how much it costs. Like, even a 100% proxy deck is way more than most people expect to spend on a game, let alone just a single deck for a specific subset of formats.
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Khanstant posted:Depending on what you wanna do, you can play cheaply theoretically, but goddamn if you wanna explore it's gonna cost ya. These days I've started to just get proxies of any card over a certain amount, that seems to lower over time. 2-3 bucks or so per proxy of basically anything expensive and neato for a deck. There's also even cheaper options like MPCFill I need to explore, maybe just print entire decks in one batch rather than mixing select proxies into deck. Wow you are much fancier than me. I use magic Forge to make up sets of cards then export the pictures to print at the library. I can get nine cards onto a single page for $0.25. I just cut out the slips of paper and shove them into the front of a sleeve with a real card. I try to use as many real cards in my cube as possible, but my collection of cards is mostly a random assortment of rubbish from the last 20 years I bought at a garage sale. I pawned all of my actual old cards long ago for weed money.
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I just got an order from bro and the foils curled the non foils. All 8 cards with a nice little bend in them. Wotc, fix your product
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Jiro posted:Anyone who FINALLY received their coinflip Secret Lair precon decks, are the cards curled from the foiling? Ever so slightly. Not terrible if you double sleeve.
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Rutibex posted:Wow you are much fancier than me. I use magic Forge to make up sets of cards then export the pictures to print at the library. I can get nine cards onto a single page for $0.25. I just cut out the slips of paper and shove them into the front of a sleeve with a real card. Yeah definitely the relatively-expensive proxy route to import from the fancy bootleggers. I think I just have a thing for bootlegs, like I've always wanted to buy some bootleg shoes or try to snag knockoff copyright toys when I see em. Something about the obtuse notion of authenticity of goods that could be reproduced arbitrarily and whose value is mostly psychic, makes it kinda fun to have the "fake" copies or imitations of. I wonder if they were outright welcome to proxying and customized cards people can make for themselves, if it would become kind of like the "free" players/volunteers in f2p mtx games. Main hurdle to playing Magic is finding the space and people to play it with. A lot of folks are always going to want to have whatever the most expensive and rare options are, especially if there's something to contrast it against. So many people bounce off this game because they are not or cannot dump the money when there's so many ways to have fun that don't charge so much for so little.
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 I have waited four long, arduous, ratless years. 581 failed contenders for the throne of rat king.
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Khanstant posted:Yeah definitely the relatively-expensive proxy route to import from the fancy bootleggers. I think I just have a thing for bootlegs, like I've always wanted to buy some bootleg shoes or try to snag knockoff copyright toys when I see em. Something about the obtuse notion of authenticity of goods that could be reproduced arbitrarily and whose value is mostly psychic, makes it kinda fun to have the "fake" copies or imitations of. With the death of competitive magic wizards doesn't have much of a way to resist proxying. I suppose you couldn't do it a FNM, and obviously LGSs aren't going to want people rolling up with full proxy decks anyways, but like casually its mostly just community inertia. Pivoting away from magic is probably a good move for LGSs anyways. Without any downsides to cards getting damaged there's a business opportunity for providing a venue for commander games with a full kitchen / bar.
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Yeah definitely wish my LGS had some food or a little bar for FNM. There's a D&D / Tabletop bar up the block and a large barcade as well, think there's still room for gaming + drugs. Especially if you're sitting there on bye, they have a little cooler with a couple drinks and some pocky type snacks but I don't usually buy, but I'd probably have a beer or something to pass the time.
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My playgroup is strangely resistant to playing around food and drink, even though everyone sleeves and most double-sleeve. A shame, because 10-15 years ago it was great fun to go to FNM and then play EDH and Planechase at the nearby diner for a couple hours after.
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My favorite LGS was in a strip mall with a bar occupying the next spot over. Was fantastic.
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I brought my Drake posted:My playgroup is strangely resistant to playing around food and drink, even though everyone sleeves and most double-sleeve. A shame, because 10-15 years ago it was great fun to go to FNM and then play EDH and Planechase at the nearby diner for a couple hours after. I don't usually double sleeve just because woof, what a hassle, but i always get thirsty and snacky while playing. what the hell is the point of sleeving up if we cant live a little. i dont play commander at my LGS, just draft. but there's a group and discord in town that meets at least once a week at a local bar. been too cold for the outside benches and indoors the tables are super tiny, slightly overlapping playmats tiny and folks still manage a spot for drinks without spilling. I wish I was around for Planechase and also [literally all of them before DMU] but Planechase in particular seems like an interesting version of the game.
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It's always so strange to see people complaining about foil curling, I never had a curled foil in my whole life.
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YggdrasilTM posted:It's always so strange to see people complaining about foil curling, I never had a curled foil in my whole life. Aside from Commander Legends' atrocious and inevitable curling, I've never had a foil card curve on its own where I live-- they've only arrived to me in that condition. Thing is, so much of it anymore is coming curled straight out of the pack. I knew which cards in my advent calendar were foil before I flipped them over from the pack because they had a subtle but present arc to them. It's not so bad that they're unplayable, but I'm sure it'd be noticeable if they weren't sleeved up.
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Jabor posted:what's the average humidity where you live Around 80% in winter, 70% in summer 
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Nov 24, 2022 13:47
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Ive had so many pre curled in pack foils that i think its more likely yggdasil has bad eyes
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Nov 24, 2022 14:32
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Amazon has started their black Friday sale. Midnight Hunt draft boxes are $60, KND are $70 and DomU boxes are $80. Bunch of the related commander decks are slashed to $20 as well.
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Nov 24, 2022 14:33
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mandatory lesbian posted:Ive had so many pre curled in pack foils that i think its more likely yggdasil has bad eyes Maybe Italian cards are printed differently, I don't know.
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I am going to draft at a LGS tomorrow. This is only the second time I have done an LGS draft and the first one was about fifteen years ago. How do these things typically go and are there any helpful tips? I know how to draft (I used to draft cubes with friends regularly) and play on arena, I just don't normally go into shops.
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YggdrasilTM posted:Maybe Italian cards are printed differently, I don't know. This is very likely. The cards themselves are printed by different companies and almost all the complaints have been about how absolutely dogshit the quality of the american printings are.
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Grifter posted:I am going to draft at a LGS tomorrow. This is only the second time I have done an LGS draft and the first one was about fifteen years ago. How do these things typically go and are there any helpful tips? I know how to draft (I used to draft cubes with friends regularly) and play on arena, I just don't normally go into shops. Bring a notepad and pencil to track life totals and some random dice for counters. Other than that they’ll tell you everything you need to know at the draft itself- have fun! Paper magic rocks.
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Jabor posted:This is very likely. The cards themselves are printed by different companies and almost all the complaints have been about how absolutely dogshit the quality of the american printings are. It's not necessarily better quality, could just be that where the cards are printed has the same humidity as where they live. Humidity sensors are usually made from a coil of paper and foil. The two materials curling in different humidity is how non-digital sensors work. So unless something is done in the printing process to counteract the effect, what you're getting with most foils is basically a way to measure how different your local humidity is compared to where they were printed. (where I live is extremely humid compared to a lot of North America, and any foils printed after the 8th edition card frame switch are basically unplayable)
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YggdrasilTM posted:Maybe Italian cards are printed differently, I don't know. Oh yeah thats possible too, i assume they have different printers then english cards
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1. Belgian cards, which make up the bulk of cards sold in Europe (across all languages), are miles better than American ones. 2. Foils still loving curl for us and cards are routinely precurled in the booster. These two things can be true at the same time. It's less bad for us, but it's still bad. However the US product that makes it to our stores (usually promo stuff and some products like Fat Packs) is just downright abysmal. I would not pay for MTG if all I got were American cards.
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