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Panel 1: Loup and Lana kiss while blushing, obviously in puppy love. Panel 2: Lana notices Loup is missing a tooth, because they just kissed, and comments on it. Panel 3: Loup explains that Coyote gave the tooth to Annie, and once the tooth is returned he will know Coyote's plan and want to die. Lana looks concerned. Panel 4: Loup, while holding her in his arms, tells Lana with a smile that he doesn't want the tooth back or die, he wants to spend forever with her. She looks relieved and happy. There's the entire chapter in a single 4 panel strip. Minus the 2 pages of Zimmy and Gamma that looked like something interesting might happen, of course.
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CodfishCartographer posted:E: you know it's funny, with how much it feels like Tom is rushing through plot beats, there's an awful lot of "why is this being stretched out so long? This could easily be condensed down" There are updates when weeks of progress happen, and there are weeks where one update's worth of progress happens.
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Nov 22, 2022 13:52
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GunnerJ posted:There are updates when weeks of progress happen, and there are weeks where one update's worth of progress happens. reminder that the entire plot of the star ocean and the court's plans were revealed to us in like 3 pages of exposition.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:13
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Niavmai posted:reminder that the entire plot of the star ocean and the court's plans were revealed to us in like 3 pages of exposition.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:24
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GunnerJ posted:There are updates when weeks of progress happen offscreen, and there are weeks where one update's worth of progress happens. Fixed that for you.
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Nov 22, 2022 19:40
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The biggest problem with Current Gunnerkrigg is it feels so disconnected from and tonally distinct from Past gunnerkrigg. I would hardly mind a new project being told that's goofy supernatural romcom hijinks and aside from a few moments that were unquestionably terrible, it's not incompetent. But it feels entirely unrelated to all the characters and storylines I was actually invested in, and tonally like a completely different work. And that sucks.
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Nov 23, 2022 02:35
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mycatscrimes posted:The biggest problem with Current Gunnerkrigg is it feels so disconnected from and tonally distinct from Past gunnerkrigg. I would hardly mind a new project being told that's goofy supernatural romcom hijinks and aside from a few moments that were unquestionably terrible, it's not incompetent. But it feels entirely unrelated to all the characters and storylines I was actually invested in, and tonally like a completely different work. And that sucks. Kesper North posted:i feel like a different person is writing this story
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Nov 23, 2022 04:17
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Remember that scene where Boxbot is like hello! and Annie is like, no, these were proper robots! and the joke is that it's a very small, very silly aside from this otherwise interesting drama? The whole comic just feels like that, now, all the time.
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Nov 23, 2022 05:47
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Tbh gunnerkrigg has always taken a profoundly sedate approach to the progression of its plot and has been utterly allergic to behaving with a sense of urgency, but the difference was back then the meandering was well done and interesting in its own right It's just now the subject matter is something readers have zero investment in
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Nov 23, 2022 06:59
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Look, it's the tooth and Reynardine is telling Annie she has to kill Loup. Surely this will happen and won't be interrupted by Lana in any way shape or form.
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Nov 23, 2022 11:22
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Annie is going to accidentally stab Lana and Loup is going to want to die because someone sacrificed herself for him.
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Nov 23, 2022 16:11
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I get that the narrative is setting up this kind of tragic position where we're supposed to feel conflicted about Annie needing to kill Loup. I get that from the reader's perspective, it's supposed to be tragic that Annie only knows one side of Loup and doesn't know that the weird robo boy is who he really is now and he's found true love. And any other time with different story setups and tweaks I would love a narrative like that. But the stakes aren't really focused on effectively for me to care about all the evil deeds Loup has done. We rushed through Renard's body getting destroyed, no one seems to care enough about the court getting FUBAR or the Star Ocean, and we honestly don't know why Annie needs to kill Loup in the first place other than Coyote said so. It doesn't seem like killing him would bring back the status quo for the court or the forest, and so far it doesn't seem like him dying would save anyone else. Honestly even if it was said somewhere that killing Loup will destroy any chance of Ysengrin and Coyote ever coming back, I would feel the conflict a little more, especially if there was any chance that Zimmy could use her powers to separate them in the same way she combined the two Annies. Hopefully that was something I missed, but right now it feels like conflict for the sake of conflict.
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Nov 23, 2022 16:12
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No, Vriska avatar, the reason we need to kill Loup is because he is *ruining the comic* and Annie is going to assert herself as protagonist again. It's going to be a Homestuck twist! (It will not.)
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Nov 23, 2022 16:34
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What are the things he's done. He collapsed a few buildings and he destroyed the fox body, but other than that he hasn't really been up to much of anything that we've seen lately. Yes those are bad, but narrative-wise, they were all kinda offscreen or happened very quickly and were then dismissed. All we've really seen him do is ditz around.
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Nov 23, 2022 17:35
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There Bias Two posted:Annie is going to accidentally stab Lana and Loup is going to want to die because someone sacrificed herself for him. Lana: "OooOoh I perish" Kat: "Didn't I give you guys like three redundant circulatory systems" Lana, staged dramatically in Tragic Yet Beautiful Anime Death Pose #2: "Dude shut up"
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Nov 23, 2022 17:48
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on paper Loup is dangerous to let live - he casually screwed with basic causality and banished all the forest residents from their homes on a whim, and he reacts with rabid violence towards anyone who even looks like they’re going to stand up to him. but he’s spent months as a bumbling fuckup with the world’s loudest inner monologue, so his threat is muted somewhat
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Nov 23, 2022 17:48
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There Bias Two posted:Annie is going to accidentally stab Lana and Loup is going to want to die because someone sacrificed herself for him. oh my god she is absolutely going to get fridged. the first and only real death in the comic.
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Nov 23, 2022 17:49
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Nettle Soup posted:What are the things he's done. He collapsed a few buildings and he destroyed the fox body, but other than that he hasn't really been up to much of anything that we've seen lately. Yes those are bad, but narrative-wise, they were all kinda offscreen or happened very quickly and were then dismissed. All we've really seen him do is ditz around.
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Nov 23, 2022 18:22
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I mean the comic may as well show him being even more abusive to his new partner by way of making out with her and only then telling her that he's a target being hunted by students trained to 'deal with' him. He's already not redeemable, he threw Lana against a wall to earn her affections, I really don't care what you do you're not redeeming him to set him up for tragedy after that! edit: he's just been more and more abusive to her every page to the point where he seems to not even realize he's doing it? Just gaslighting her and diminishing her strength so that he can cuddle her, but the comic holds the intent of still actually sympathizing him. Really, really odd framing device. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 23, 2022 |
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Nov 23, 2022 18:54
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*stab with tooth* Here lies Lana, she was an interesting character and then she met Loup and every page after that featuring the two of them was about him.
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Nov 23, 2022 19:00
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Lana was with Loup from page one, she just initially seemed like a playful mentor archetype and then turned into a simpering ingenue and I wouldn’t call Loup’s sweet talk “gaslighting,” he doesn’t have enough understanding of psychology for that to be his intent. he’s just riding the hormone high and wildly cooing over Lana for giving him good feels Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Nov 23, 2022 |
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Nov 23, 2022 19:28
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A big flaming stink posted:Tbh gunnerkrigg has always taken a profoundly sedate approach to the progression of its plot and has been utterly allergic to behaving with a sense of urgency, but the difference was back then the meandering was well done and interesting in its own right Yeah to me the pacing itself isn't a huge change or a big problem, it's the tonal shift and change of content- as well as the shift away from the characters and storylines who I was actually invested in.
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Nov 23, 2022 20:23
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There Bias Two posted:Annie is going to accidentally stab Lana and Loup is going to want to die because someone sacrificed herself for him. I didn't think of it until you said it, but yeah, seems like a decent bet. Or something even more disappointing.
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Nov 23, 2022 21:39
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lol what if indeed
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Nov 23, 2022 21:47
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i know this thread's confidence in the comic is subterranean right now but GC has never been cavalier about killing off its characters, and especially with the cloying shoujo angle it's taking now i seriously doubt lana's in any mortal danger smart money is still on "loup must die so jerrek can live"
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Nov 23, 2022 22:15
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I JUST WANNA SEE SOME BLOODSHED WE HAVE BEEN WASTING TIME FOR SO LONG. Bruh nothing seems that dangerous nobody died Loup at best was a minor nuisance. What loving urgency is there at least with the ghost sword lady it was guilt over court crimes.
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Nov 23, 2022 22:31
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Loup killed Reynard's body and the immediate reaction from both Annie and Rey was "Huh... well, guess that happened. Oh well, didn't really care anyway. What do you want to do tomorrow?"
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Oxxidation posted:i know this thread's confidence in the comic is subterranean right now but GC has never been cavalier about killing off its characters, and especially with the cloying shoujo angle it's taking now i seriously doubt lana's in any mortal danger Well... Annie is holding a blade that can cut through anything. I wonder if it can permanently cut Jerrick off from his Loup powers?
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I just want to know if Annie actually got to the star ocean and found anything out or if she just immediately took the next train home after Jerrick left. Was there any point to that whole sequence beyond giving Lana a chance to get close to Loup? Like even a joke panel at the end of the chapter showing Annie awkwardly sitting in the train alone after everyone left would have been something. Guess we could still get a flashback chapter at some point but who knows.
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Nov 24, 2022 06:41
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Tom why the gently caress does nothing matter to the kids. Is it a message that any major changes and cruelties of the world don't effect middle class people or something? Like I'm not even joking what is the point of bringing up the star ocean or killing loup if it's just not gonna lead to anything. I forgot if the kids even do things like graduate.
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Nov 24, 2022 07:01
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I don't buy the "Loup dies so Jerrick lives" theory anymore because Loup isn't hiding that he's Loup in these recent strips. In the comic's eyes they are one and the same at this point.
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Nov 24, 2022 07:56
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the fact that annie apparently went to the star ocean and came back and didn't remark on it at all is lunacy like there are ways to do that writing trick of hiding something from the viewer but the character still has to be affected
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Patware posted:the fact that annie apparently went to the star ocean and came back and didn't remark on it at all is lunacy lmao holy poo poo this didn't even sink in until now the protagonist of the story literally went to witness the big thing made by the evil antagonists that could potentially jeopardize her life as a partially-etheric being, did so OFFSCREEN, then returned with zero comment on it, back to talking about loup
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Annointed posted:Tom why the gently caress does nothing matter to the kids. This. This comic would suck less if the characters cared about literally anything that's happening. Patware posted:the fact that annie apparently went to the star ocean and came back and didn't remark on it at all is lunacy Chernobyl mostly focused on people's reactions rather than the sets themself. It worked--you can play coy with information while being extremely emotionally intense This comic used to know how to do that Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Nov 24, 2022 |
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Patware posted:the fact that annie apparently went to the star ocean and came back and didn't remark on it at all is lunacy seems a little early to say that. it's a really common narrative device when shifting perspectives to use a topical present conversation as a sort of bridge before going back to past events. what we witness on this 1 page starts on a small part of a larger conversation they're having. Catgirl Al Capone fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Nov 24, 2022 |
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Nov 24, 2022 13:51
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its not early to say it when its what the comic has been doing for years now annie giving a poo poo about the star ocean would be going against type at this point
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Nov 24, 2022 19:55
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"Hmm? Oh, I just got off at the next platform and went home. It didn't seem right to go without the protagonist there."
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Splicer posted:"Hmm? Oh, I just got off at the next platform and went home. It didn't seem right to go without the protagonist there." I thought this was a little too cynical to say this earlier but I so wanted to say this because I was absolutely thinking it.
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This is gonna be my second read-through from after the two Annies where I'm doing so not because the comic is great, but because I need to confirm it's decline in quality isn't in my head/me being negative. The first time I was *very* drunk, but I remember "Down that Road" being the first major crack for me, though small ones showed up before that. A lot of telling us Kat is going nuts without much showing beyond "booted up the old robots", which didn't feel like it had the weight it should have, and Paz having to tell us Kat is getting obsessive again. It really feels like Jeanne was the real finale, and it's been a slow decline since.
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Annie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r18Ab8cb5s&t=8s
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