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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I'm happy that Ukraine is fighting the collaborators over there, so we don't have to fight them over here

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Danann posted:

(from t.me/milinfolive/93699, via tgsa)

think that truck is armored enough?

needs more dakka

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

A Bakers Cousin posted:

Turns out they just thought it was a Buddhist symbol so they executed the guys

Seatbelts
Mar 29, 2010

Danann posted:

(from t.me/milinfolive/93699, via tgsa)

think that truck is armored enough?
Small caliber rounds only.
Mild steel is NOT armor

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Seatbelts posted:

Small caliber rounds only.
Mild steel is NOT armor


confederate breastplate from a dead guy at gettysburg

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

i say swears online posted:



confederate breastplate from a dead guy at gettysburg

looks fully intact. the armor works everywhere except where it gets shot

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

OctaMurk posted:

looks fully intact. the armor works everywhere except where it gets shot

other than that how was the play mrs Lincoln

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Raskolnikov38 posted:

other than that how was the play mrs Lincoln

lol

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

I wouldn't trust anything Lincoln might say about personal protection.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Seatbelts posted:

Small caliber rounds only.
Mild steel is NOT armor



It is for shrapnel, which is a pretty big deal in Ukraine at the moment.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
I don't see what a British general has to do with anything.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1595080760159260674?s=20&t=wiAAkh0Z5fd9HSt_bqoYGw

https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1595362904211361792?s=20&t=wiAAkh0Z5fd9HSt_bqoYGw

Seems doubtful the EU members will be able to collectively agree of the proposed natural gas and oil cap prices.

Different member states are saying they are to high; others that they are to low.

https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1595330659114950657?s=20&t=wiAAkh0Z5fd9HSt_bqoYGw

And Japan managed to argue for no cap on its buying of Russian oil from a certain oil field.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Not too surprising, seems like any real cap could be countered with "thats not what we agreed on, guess we're not selling here anymore"

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1595512541471465472?s=20&t=C-XXR871lp6-Di7tpIWjNQ

US should invoke Article 5 against Turkish aggression

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Who predicted the Baltics cracking down on their (large) Russian minority populations while hiding behind NATO’s skirt?

Latvia plans to scrap Russian language classes, Lithuania may follow suit

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Turkey called out the US for sending a few terrorist their way a few days ago, this is probably their way of saying "Stop loving around"

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

since the russians are now apparently close to actually knocking out ukraine's power grid, the papers are calling it a crime against humanity etc. and my insistence that this sort of thing is pretty common in modern war is making me few friends in my local party meetings

i have sources on US/NATO strikes on electric infrastructure during the serbian and iraq wars, but i would like to know whether this was also a thing in afghanistan and libya, with some kind of respectable source to cite if possible. i'm putting together a short document trying to lay out that the surprising thing isn't so much that the russians are attacking this infrastructure, but that they're only seriously attacking it this late in the war. this is naturally meant to be used to justify a general anti-war stance, not to minimise the awfulness of the present war.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Frosted Flake posted:

Who predicted the Baltics cracking down on their (large) Russian minority populations while hiding behind NATO’s skirt?

Latvia plans to scrap Russian language classes, Lithuania may follow suit

How could China do this to Xinjiang

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Turkey called out the US for sending a few terrorist their way a few days ago

what?

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


turkey called out the US for sending a few terrorists their way a few days ago

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Военный Осведомитель posted:


Обломок ракеты AIM-120 от поставленного на Украину ЗРК NASAMS, найденный в Киеве после сегодняшнего ракетного удара по энергетической инфраструктуре стране.

@milinfolive
(from t.me/milinfolive/93696, via tgsa)

nasams confirmed around kyiv by wit of shrapnel and debris

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


https://thehill.com/policy/international/3734308-turkey-alleges-us-complicity-in-deadly-istanbul-bombing-rejects-condolence-statement/

quote:

Turkey’s interior minister accused the U.S. of being complicit in a recent bombing in the city of Istanbul on Sunday that left at least six people dead and dozens of others injured.

Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu rejected a statement of condolence from the U.S. during a press conference with reporters near the scene of the attack after authorities arrested a Syrian woman with suspected ties to Kurdish militants.

“I emphasize once again that we do not accept, and reject the condolences of the U.S. Embassy,” Soylu said, according to [Turkish state media publication Anadolu Agency](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkiye/turkiye-does-not-accept-us-condolence-over-istanbul-terrorist-attack-interior-minister-soylu/2737533).

The interior minister said the U.S. statement of condolence was like “a killer being first to show up at a crime scene.”

The U.S. Embassy in Turkey [tweeted Sunday](https://twitter.com/USEmbassyTurkey/status/1591812641684885504) that it was “deeply saddened” by the explosion, adding, “We extend our deepest condolences to the families of those who lost their lives and wish a speedy recovery for the injured.”

White House press secretary [Karine Jean-Pierre ](https://thehill.com/people/karine-jean-pierre/)also [tweeted on Sunday](https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1591879512215650307) that the U.S. “condemns the act of violence that took place today in Istanbul.”

“Our thoughts are with those who were injured and our deepest condolences go to those who lost loved ones,” the statement read. “We stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our NATO Ally Turkiye in countering terrorism.”

The bomb on Sunday exploded on Istiklal Avenue, a popular shopping thoroughfare. Turkish authorities [arrested a Syrian woman](https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-international/ap-suspect-arrested-in-deadly-istanbul-bombing-minister-says/) who police said was connected to Kurdish militants and confessed to planting the bomb.

Authorities said instructions for the attack came from Kobani, a Syrian city that borders Turkey.

No groups have claimed responsibility for the attack, though Turkish officials have blamed Kurdish militants.

Ankara considers the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, a terrorist group, [as does](https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/) Washington. The PKK is a militant group that has fought against the Turkish government for political and cultural rights.

However, Washington and Ankara diverge over support for Syrian Kurds. The U.S. has supported the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in fighting the Islamic State.

The SDF and the PKK have both denied involvement in the attack in Istanbul.

Soylu on Monday said whoever gave the attackers information was culpable, according to state media.

The interior minister promised to “pay back heavily” those who carried out the attack.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

AnimeIsTrash posted:

turkey called out the US for sending a few terrorists their way a few days ago

A big UPS box with “terrorists” on it

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Danann posted:

(from t.me/milinfolive/93696, via tgsa)

nasams confirmed around kyiv by wit of shrapnel and debris

people were posting earlier these might have misfired into apartments again?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

speng31b posted:

people were posting earlier these might have misfired into apartments again?

I only saw someone mention that it exploded above an apartment building when intercepting something.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Lostconfused posted:

I only saw someone mention that it exploded above an apartment building when intercepting something.

https://twitter.com/GabeZZOZZ/status/1595485000216068112

there are a hundred tweets like this but i don't think they're highly credible

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013
https://twitter.com/VientianeVibes/status/1595565442487275521

sum
Nov 15, 2010

I've received confidential intelligence that Russia has modified its NASAMS missiles into a ground attack role

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

I know you're joking but they (theoretically) can't because it's geographically limited so as not to include things like France's colonies.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

V. Illych L. posted:

since the russians are now apparently close to actually knocking out ukraine's power grid, the papers are calling it a crime against humanity etc. and my insistence that this sort of thing is pretty common in modern war is making me few friends in my local party meetings

i have sources on US/NATO strikes on electric infrastructure during the serbian and iraq wars, but i would like to know whether this was also a thing in afghanistan and libya, with some kind of respectable source to cite if possible. i'm putting together a short document trying to lay out that the surprising thing isn't so much that the russians are attacking this infrastructure, but that they're only seriously attacking it this late in the war. this is naturally meant to be used to justify a general anti-war stance, not to minimise the awfulness of the present war.

Just looking quickly at generation data it doesn't appear like there was as much destruction of at least power generation equipment in Libya and Afghanistan as is typical.


https://www.eia.gov/international/analysis/country/LBY

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
You could argue both operations didn't really require the full "suite" of offensive measures especially the Taliban.

That said, supposedly elements of Western Libya's water infrastructure was hit pretty hard.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Ardennes posted:

You could argue both operations didn't really require the full "suite" of offensive measures especially the Taliban.

That said, supposedly elements of Western Libya's water infrastructure was hit pretty hard.

Iraq maybe?

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

speng31b posted:

Iraq maybe?

FF has posted extensively on this in the thread. Probably in the old thread now though.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Weka posted:

Just looking quickly at generation data it doesn't appear like there was as much destruction of at least power generation equipment in Libya and Afghanistan as is typical.


https://www.eia.gov/international/analysis/country/LBY

Is there anything like this for the Chechen wars?

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
Afghanistan didn't have infrastructure to strike. Iraq was wrecked.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Weka posted:

I know you're joking but they (theoretically) can't because it's geographically limited so as not to include things like France's colonies.

Also so Cyprus wouldn't blow up NATO

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

They should stop the war imo op

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

That's kind of gross. Don't post stuff like that.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

sube posted:

Well, there's a draft in Russia which a lot of people have gone through - however, actually going to war is quite a bit different. They are slowly trickling in, yes, but they've mostly just been used to fill some gaps when Ukrainians were advancing. Russia doesn't really have any infrastructure for mobilisation properly, which is why many pro-SMO reporters documents lots of issues with it (basic supplies are often lacking, iirc). I think a considerable portion of them are just getting trained in Belarus now

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/10/14/why-russia-is-pushing-a-return-to-negotiations They wrote about it here for ex. It's quite liberal, but they sometimes have interesting articles and reporting.

https://tass.com/politics/1535411

quote:

MOSCOW, November 11. /TASS/. The United States’ statements about possible negotiations between Moscow and Kiev are nonsense, as Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky is impossible to negotiate with, a senior Russian lawmaker said on Friday.

it doesn't really look like they're desperate for a ceasefire unless there's something more recent

also while i was trying to find that i came across this: https://tass.com/world/1540085

quote:

MOSCOW, November 22. /TASS/. Cuba condemns Western sanctions against Russia, the causes of the Ukrainian conflict should be sought in the policies of the US and NATO, Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel, who is on a visit to Moscow, said at a plenary session of the State Duma on Tuesday.

another victim of russian disinformation

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Karl Barks posted:

They should stop the war imo op

they should stop the war, make up, and secretly restart CCCP while pretending to still be at war. meanwhile the west sends all its weapons to Ukraine and builds up the peoples arsenal until the moment the west is weak enough to strike.

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