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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

homelander's great but the deep is an all-timer of a character

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Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
Starscream was a little better.

im saint germain
Jan 30, 2021

i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns

AnimeIsTrash posted:

The entire show is ripped from Grant Morrison's version of doom patrol,. although obviously they change up a lot of the backstories and stuff to make it more watchable.

Cool thanks, that is good to hear

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Her documentary about the Hormel meat packing unions in the '80s is just as depressing lol

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

MeatwadIsGod posted:

Her documentary about the Hormel meat packing unions in the '80s is just as depressing lol

if you told me Wolf was unionized it would conform to my previously-held beliefs

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Blood Boils posted:

Finally the podcasters will pay for their crimes

I was being a wee bit extra and I apologize

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Glass Onion is real good. Worth a watch if you can squeeze in time to see it in the all of one week it's in theaters.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

what if i can watch it from the teevee while i'm sitting on the couch drinking like eight mimosas for $7

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

i say swears online posted:

what if i can watch it from the teevee while i'm sitting on the couch drinking like eight mimosas for $7

I'll allow it.

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator

MeatwadIsGod posted:

Her documentary about the Hormel meat packing unions in the '80s is just as depressing lol

Excellent film. Won the academy award for documentaries that year I think?

A must-watch for American socialists

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i refuse to buy a hormel product based on taste but the labor practices are illuminating

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Empire State posted:

GoT chat is making me want to want to watch some movies/shows that set up revolutionary struggle where victory is a little power transfer or something that doesn't effect meaningful systemic change. To be mad about later. Any suggestions?

Star wars episodes 1-9

Real talk the best political movies are
z & missing by Costa gavras
Battle of Algiers
Act of killing
First half of Athena (by Costa gavras kid) but has a hideously bad end scene

Probably a bunch of other ones I don't know

Also the most feminist movie ever made is faster pussycat kill kill

mastershakeman has issued a correction as of 00:06 on Nov 24, 2022

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

mastershakeman posted:

faster pussycat kill kill

you mentioned this a bunch a couple months ago and i tried to watch it but only got thirty seconds into the promo photos before i got sleepy

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

New Andor ruled but I don’t know what we’re supposed to think about the dead lady giving a speech that could only lead to a massacre? It’s like people only read the first half of a book about the Easter Rising.

Resisting the Empire for it’s own sake and vaguely defined notions of liberty or whatever is some lib brained poo poo and got innocent people killed in a riot that would have made more of an impact if it had happened peacefully.

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Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Che is great too! part 1 more exciting than part 2, but 2 def has the bitter defeat if that's what you're looking for

part 1 is so fuckin good, idk how sody pulled that off

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Joe Rogan calling Che a mass murderer and getting all heated over it will never not be funny.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Frosted Flake posted:

New Andor ruled but I don’t know what we’re supposed to think about the dead lady giving a speech that could only lead to a massacre? It’s like people only read the first half of a book about the Easter Rising.

Resisting the Empire for it’s own sake and vaguely defined notions of liberty or whatever is some lib brained poo poo and got innocent people killed in a riot that would have made more of an impact if it had happened peacefully.

I think it's entirely intentional that all these spontaneous uprisings against the Empire end up getting crushed- to take your analogy the Easter Uprising was a complete failure on its own terms but it was the start of a bigger movement that eventually led to independence. Luthen et al are trying not just to spark unrest but eventually redirect it into what will be the Alliance (and ironically, the final coup that seals the deal and unites the fledgling Alliance will be the Death Star)

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator

mastershakeman posted:

Battle of Algiers

Watched the Battle of Algeirs for the first time around the start of the year. Great movie.

I particularly liked the scene where a French general, brought in to suppress the rebellion, is being interviewed by French reporters and basically says "Yeah we're here to take their resources and gently caress the locals over. Don't like it? Talk to your politicians idc."

So good :allears:

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

Che is great too! part 1 more exciting than part 2, but 2 def has the bitter defeat if that's what you're looking for

part 1 is so fuckin good, idk how sody pulled that off

This is probably the best possible western-produced biopic about a communist revolutionary you could hope for. It follows Jon Lee Anderson's biography of Che very closely (he might have consulted on the movie), and it's gorgeously shot and acted. Even though del Toro was way older than Che would have been he's still fantastic. My only complaint is that there wasn't an intermediate movie that dealt with Che's tours of the non-aligned and socialist countries, his time at INRA and the state bank, and also his time in the Congo. Definitely worth a Criterion subscription to watch it, if you don't have one already.

In other news, Crimes of the Future owns.

MeatwadIsGod has issued a correction as of 01:18 on Nov 24, 2022

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


i'll add some more:

Attica (1974) — made (incredibly) by a 23 year old heiress and an incredible document of the uprising, available for free here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG1f7FzgXY8

Reds

Man With A Movie Camera (revolutionary — in form if not content— for its time! still a trip to watch; free here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGYZ5847FiI)

The Human Condition

Young Karl Marx

The Wind That Shakes The Barley

Bacurau

Danton

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The Boys isn't just more superhero schlock, it's left wing political satire wrapped in a cape and cloaked with sex and violence

The writing is great and the acting is fantastic. Homelander is both a psychopathic, unstoppable ubermensch and despicably pathetic.

the last season rocked. i'd never imagined i'd see such pitch perfect ironic recreations of the celeb imagine vid and the pepsi blm commercial in a loving amazon web series. the writers are definitely way too online.

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6i4Nys5WqQ

rofl
(ignore the lovely watermarked, but definitely don't ignore hgh deformed kumail)

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


MeatwadIsGod posted:

In other news, Crimes of the Future owns.

hell yes, my fave of the year

i want to marry timlin

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

i say swears online posted:

you mentioned this a bunch a couple months ago and i tried to watch it but only got thirty seconds into the promo photos before i got sleepy

Try again, at least up through the end of the opening racetrack plot thread. You'll know if you like it by then


And yes, man with movie camera is very cool

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

Ardent Communist posted:

new episode of andor pretty good

"which star wars do you like"

"the terrorist one"

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

im saint germain posted:

Has anyone who's watched Doom Patrol also read any of the comics? I'm curious if any of the stuff from the Grant Morrison run gets tapped for the show. I know what I really want is to watch a show version of The Invisibles, but this might do me enough good for now

the comics are really good but i haven't watched the series so i couldn't say. they've been talking about an Invisibles adaptation for ages, last time i heard the guy that made the Sandman show wanted to have a go.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
doom patrol is excellent but also doesn't lend itself to binge-watching if that's your thing. every character's storyline is incredibly dense and there are roughly 2-3 major cathartic emotional breakthroughs in a given episode. quality stuff but i am exhausted if i watch more than 2 in a row.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Empire State posted:

GoT chat is making me want to want to watch some movies/shows that set up revolutionary struggle where victory is a little power transfer or something that doesn't effect meaningful systemic change. To be mad about later. Any suggestions?

Sorry to Bother You
Blue Collar
La chinoise

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

Laterite posted:

doom patrol is excellent but also doesn't lend itself to binge-watching if that's your thing. every character's storyline is incredibly dense and there are roughly 2-3 major cathartic emotional breakthroughs in a given episode. quality stuff but i am exhausted if i watch more than 2 in a row.

alan tudyk as a guest sort of peaks any show he's in

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Doom patrol has episodes featuring Flex Mentallo and Danny the Street. It owns

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022
is the new addams family show any good?

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

tristeham posted:

is the new addams family show any good?

i watched 2 episodes

ehhh

i don't remember psychic visions being a thing, i kinda wanted to watch addams family values thanksgiving scene part-way through

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

i think it tries to build upon the sabrina teenage witch show

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

MacheteZombie posted:

Doom patrol has episodes featuring Flex Mentallo and Danny the Street. It owns

worth watching just for the Hero of the Beach.

UwUnabomber
Sep 9, 2012

Pubes dreaded out so hoes call me Chris Barnes. I don't wear a condom at the pig farm.

tristeham posted:

is the new addams family show any good?

I havent watched it, but no.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!

Oglethorpe posted:

"which star wars do you like"

"the terrorist one"

not disagreeing with you but people don't give lucas enough credit, the rebel alliance was based on the Viet Cong.

Frosted Flake posted:

New Andor ruled but I don’t know what we’re supposed to think about the dead lady giving a speech that could only lead to a massacre? It’s like people only read the first half of a book about the Easter Rising.

Resisting the Empire for it’s own sake and vaguely defined notions of liberty or whatever is some lib brained poo poo and got innocent people killed in a riot that would have made more of an impact if it had happened peacefully.

i thought it was pretty funny she mentions that, "i'll admit calling people to fight for their lives is easy for a dead person" but what the next poster said is correct, it's absurd to expect a full blown rebellion to come out of a single action.

StashAugustine posted:

I think it's entirely intentional that all these spontaneous uprisings against the Empire end up getting crushed- to take your analogy the Easter Uprising was a complete failure on its own terms but it was the start of a bigger movement that eventually led to independence. Luthen et al are trying not just to spark unrest but eventually redirect it into what will be the Alliance (and ironically, the final coup that seals the deal and unites the fledgling Alliance will be the Death Star)
Exactly, losing the battle to win the war. americans are huge fan of big disasters at the start of their wars, it gets the populace's blood all hot. Tonkin gulf, pearl harbour, remember the alamo, remember the maine! maybe it's just good pr taking advantage of the fact they tended to drawn down their army into a state of lethargy, but whatever, massacres can sometimes being almost more motivating, especially if it's the result of a previous victory (in this case aldani)

big fan of the immediate turn around on the gently caress around, find out with the imperial messing with the droid.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


It's mostly a matter of, unless you're willing to die for something, you won't win against somebody who is, or doesn't understand the stakes of what they do, i.e. someone with as-of-yet untested and unrestricted social/political power with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. An established fascist order is the latter, and anything that opposes it must become the former in order to overcome that, and while Andor deals in lib-brained nonsense about democracy and freedom, I think it's not much of a stretch to apply it to other things. Active resistance tends to kick off with acts that charitably get seen as martyrdom later on. Stubborn loss.

It's a good show, honestly.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Oglethorpe posted:

i think it tries to build upon the sabrina teenage witch show

ugh

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Isn't Sabrina also tied to that wacky Archie show?

The Riverdale Expanded Universe

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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
The Easter Rising but make the guns blasters and give everyone Star Wars names would be the most popular poo poo ever made. Everyone would cheer on the adventures of Liam Irelandfreebaggano

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