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A Buttery Pastry posted:What is the point then? That there are no rules being followed, past statements cannot be used to predict future actions.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:This is wrong. The U-value of those blocks you've linked is exactly the same as a thermolite block. There is no way you can add a layer of those blocks and suddenly achieve a 0.3 U value. If you look at the brochures, they achieve that kind of U-value in combination with cavity fill insulation. They are just a normal aerated block. I would say then the option is to use non rockwool/glaswool insulation that can handle moisture. As much as is feasible on the inside. I have a hard time seeing you can add more than 50mm though without reducing the size of the interior too much unless it's a big place. And somone said to watch the ceiling, insulation there does a lot, more than walls. Though I dunno if that applies with stone walls.
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sebzilla posted:Don't check who won in 2017 The Spectator can award it to whoever they want. I bet he didn't go.
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For cost efficiency we're trying to skip winter.
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Out of curiosity why is there still an Autumn Thread? Winter doesn't officially start til December 21st maybe Guav is following that? Then Spring 2023 starts March 20th. Solstice Equinox Solstice Equinox
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Winter doesn't officially start til December 21st maybe Guav is following that? There's three different ways to reckon the seasons, Solar Winter begins on 1st November (putting the solstices as midwinter and midsummer), Meteorological Winter begins on 1st December, and Astronomical Winter begins on 21st December. Until we reach 1st December we can't be certain which definition the thread uses!
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Threads use the meteorological calendar, where winter starts December 1st and ends February last. Solstice Equinox Solstice Equinox is the astronomical calendar, which I think is what they're using to calculate the bills 
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Out of curiosity why is there still an Autumn Thread? Thread title's too good to change it.
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Following on from insulation/efficiency chat… Our house has double glazing with plastic frames (in brown colour, ugh). It’s probably 20+ years old and a few of the panes have condensation in the middle, but they’re generally in good nick. Im finding it really hard to find any information about whether 2022 double glazing is significantly better and more efficient than the older stuff. We have been visited by a couple of salespeople and they claim that new stuff will be more efficient (of course they will) but is that really the case? Unless of course we go for the super expensive triple glazed or the vacuum sealed stuff. We were originally planning on replacing them all but figured if we can paint the frames and replace a couple of panes, is it worth it?
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:Following on from insulation/efficiency chat… post/avatar combo
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:Following on from insulation/efficiency chat… It's not. Studies in done in Sweden showed that refitting late 1800s windows (single pane with an interior frame you put up for winter) with modern 3 glaze windows wasn't economically justifiable. They're better ofc, but not really as much as you think. And this is comparing technologies from different centuries. It''s one massive huge leap forward to go from single glaze to a storm window, but from there on it's massively diminshed returns. It's more a question of if the windows are tight, if you think the old ones look like crap.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Surprised to see this thread taking the pragmatic view on nukes. Pretty sure that wasnt the case when that grid of gammons were trying to convince Jeremy. I took the exact same view then as I do now, as did others in this thread. This wasn't a hivemind thing and we aren't the CND, people have differing opinions on the issue.
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Reveilled posted:There's three different ways to reckon the seasons, Solar Winter begins on 1st November (putting the solstices as midwinter and midsummer), Meteorological Winter begins on 1st December, and Astronomical Winter begins on 21st December.
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His Divine Shadow posted:It's more a question of if the windows are tight, if you think the old ones look like crap.
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:Following on from insulation/efficiency chat… Current double glazing would be more efficient than 20+ DG down to improvements in frame design, materials and glazing. Especially if some of your current windows are damaged or allowing moisture in. Don't go near triple glazing, it is crazy expensive for new builds and even worse for retrofits. You are better off looking at your wall insulation, attic insulation and heating system as windows can alway have curtains drawn on them to retain heat. Also discuss with an expert instead of a salesman, they can run the tests on your existing to see where the main issues are in your house. Even replacing panes can be a pain, especially if your house is a protected structure. Councils can and will force you to replace existing uPVC windows with historically accurate / appropriate looking windows.
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Yeah if you have condensation between the panes it has completely failed and is only marginally better than single glazing The difference when we replaced all the ancient single-glazing with DG after moving in was insane in terms of comfort, allowed us to push back Thermal Winter by a few months
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Guavanaut posted:Good indoor curtain/blind pairs also provide more insulation than a third pane or vacuum or argon fill, with the added bonus of stopping you seeing the frames you dislike. It has several benefits 
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feedmegin posted:I took the exact same view then as I do now, as did others in this thread. This wasn't a hivemind thing and we aren't the CND, people have differing opinions on the issue. Also the gammony weirdos were only worried about WOULD YOU PUSH THE BUTTON JEREMY WOULD YOU KILL MILLIONS rather than the many more pressing concerns we had, and still have, which was the objectionable bit.
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His Divine Shadow posted:It has several benefits How did you get my photo???
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yeah if you have condensation between the panes it has completely failed and is only marginally better than single glazing It's still far, far better than single glazing even if there is condensation.
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His Divine Shadow posted:It's still far, far better than single glazing even if there is condensation. Yeah alright that was an overstatement but: DG>>>Broken DG>>>SG According to the very scientific scale I just devised
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domhal posted:The Spectator can award it to whoever they want. I bet he didn't go. He didn't. He sent Diane Abbott to collect it on his behalf 
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WhatEvil posted:Shot: Surely Corbyn would be happy with something like Python because it's a sort of cooperative, the people who work there have the biggest say in what happens. Also, amazing: https://twitter.com/WooTube/status/1199998224729329664
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To refurb my mother's 1 bedroom bungalow entirely over 2021 cost me a shitload. Place only cost 75k and was a wreck. quote:Electrics 2800 Entire life savings are locked in her house now, but gently caress it. She has a safe place to live so it's worth it.
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Mebh posted:To refurb my mother's 1 bedroom bungalow entirely over 2021 cost me a shitload. Place only cost 75k and was a wreck. I could have gotten the bathroom done for 3832.25 , shoulda shopped around
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Mebh posted:To refurb my mother's 1 bedroom bungalow entirely over 2021 cost me a shitload. Place only cost 75k and was a wreck. Ending up with A House for under £100k is good
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feedmegin posted:I took the exact same view then as I do now, as did others in this thread. This wasn't a hivemind thing and we aren't the CND, people have differing opinions on the issue. There's always been a line of "nukes are the one defense spending that can't intervene in the middle east" in the thread, it's the general socialist viewpoints outside the thread which are more anti-nuke.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:There's always been a line of "nukes are the one defense spending that can't intervene in the middle east" in the thread, it's the general socialist viewpoints outside the thread which are more anti-nuke. Must be entryism from the UK Posadist Thread
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NotJustANumber99 posted:This is wrong. The U-value of those blocks you've linked is exactly the same as a thermolite block. There is no way you can add a layer of those blocks and suddenly achieve a 0.3 U value. If you look at the brochures, they achieve that kind of U-value in combination with cavity fill insulation. They are just a normal aerated block. endlessmonotony posted:That there are no rules being followed, past statements cannot be used to predict future actions. Pantsmaster Bill posted:Following on from insulation/efficiency chat… As for your specific case, my understanding is that non-wooden frame windows from that period are often a huge hassle to properly replace panes in. At least comparatively. Which means you might not get as much benefit, and pay more for it. I'm gonna echo the suggestion to have an expert rather than a salesman have a look at your entire house, because there might be very cheap options relative to the energy savings that you don't realize are an option. Like poo poo that pays itself back within five years, or even a year.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:There's always been a line of "nukes are the one defense spending that can't intervene in the middle east" in the thread, it's the general socialist viewpoints outside the thread which are more anti-nuke. UKMT Hoxhaist Tendency would like to point out that a series of small defensive bunkers can also not intervene in the Middle East.
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sebzilla posted:UKMT Hoxhaist Tendency would like to point out that a series of small defensive bunkers can also not intervene in the Middle East.
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Failed Imagineer posted:I could have gotten the bathroom done for 3832.25 , shoulda shopped around Ah gently caress. I knew it.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The synthesis between these two is a series of small nuclear silos. A chicken in every pot and a breeder reactor in every garage
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Mebh posted:To refurb my mother's 1 bedroom bungalow entirely over 2021 cost me a shitload. Place only cost 75k and was a wreck. spend less on candles
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