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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Resolved with Chinese characteristics

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Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:



Imagine looking at this lil fella and thinking "this is going to give me so many boners"

Hahaha yeah imagine that just imagine someone looking at that plumply sleek scaled form and popping a boner haha how crazy right

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Atopian posted:

Hahaha yeah imagine that just imagine someone looking at that plumply sleek scaled form and popping a boner haha how crazy right

do you think pangolins get embarrassed when they roll up into a ball in front of atopian sorry if this offends anyone but I thought it was funny haha

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Pan golin prosperity sphere

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Chinese woman stabbed another Chinese woman 27 times in Bangkok today. Apparently there were blackmail photos involved.

I wonder if she'll go with the Burzum defense of "I stabbed him eight times and then he fell through a pane of glass and that accounts for the other stabbings".

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Does Thailand forgive a certain number of stabs or what?

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Shumagorath posted:

Does Thailand forgive a certain number of stabs or what?

Everybody gets one stab as a birthright but you can get more by doing good acts or spending time as a monk. The government also auctions them off twice a year.

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021

Atlas Hugged posted:

Apparently there were blackmail photos involved.
Uh, that's what the entire Chinese political system balances on. Why is she getting angry about tradition?

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
extradition bogaloo 2: hong kong to bangkok

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


The top one-thousandth of one percent (0.001%) controls fully 10% of the total wealth in Xi Jinping's China, truly the socialist paradise C-SPAM considers it to be

https://twitter.com/PikettyLeMonde/status/1595342621966467072

(Source appears to be here since it's not linked on that tweet)

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Atlas Hugged posted:

Chinese woman stabbed another Chinese woman 27 times in Bangkok today. Apparently there were blackmail photos involved.

I wonder if she'll go with the Burzum defense of "I stabbed him eight times and then he fell through a pane of glass and that accounts for the other stabbings".

i wonder if this involves loans or something.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Shumagorath posted:

Does Thailand forgive a certain number of stabs or what?

L'Étranger defence.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
https://twitter.com/whyyoutouzhele/status/1595171251483512846

https://twitter.com/EliDFriedman/status/1595389536040878083

https://twitter.com/lolc936163/status/1595421244236566536

a thread:

https://twitter.com/violazhouyi/status/1595389001640587265

SMCP coverage: https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/...controls-worlds

quote:

Local authorities also stepped in to help, with some urging retired soldiers and government workers to take on stints, according to local media reports.

The first source said that the eagerness of local authorities to recruit workers may have played a role in causing "miscommunication" with the new hires on issues including allowance and accommodation.

Previous coverage of the promised 3000 yuan per month: https://cj.sina.com.cn/articles/view/1905628462/7195952e01901g2u7

quote:

郑州富士康招工又出新招?日前,网传河南部分地区鼓励公务员、事业单位、三支一扶人员到富士康工作,并保留原岗原职,在富士康的工资以及各项优惠补贴也全部归个人所有。

对此,上证报记者从开封某一线基层人员处获悉,该地已接到消息,动员基层干部到郑州富士康工作。“要求干部带队,工作时间是一个月起步。”上述人士透露。

对于入职郑州富士康的条件,河南济源市某一线基层干部透露,首先需要在当地培训三天,每天生活补贴100元,再到郑州后培训四天,每天生活补贴400元,合计补贴1900元。

“拿补贴是有条件的,只有干够30天才能享受。”该人士介绍,入职后当地会奖励800元的务工补贴,干满30天富士康还有3000元稳岗补贴。“要抓紧时间报名,后面稳岗补贴会降到2000元。”他提醒到。

郑州富士康iDPBG事业群11月13日发布的最新招工政策显示,此次招聘的新员工以派遣小时工模式入职,员工入职日开始按照30元/时计薪。11月9日至11月19日报到的员工,在职满30天额外享有3000元稳岗津贴。报名方式为由各地市人力资源机构、代理、职介等统一组织报名。

记者计算,如在富士康工作满30天,纯补贴就能拿到5700元。另外按照工资30元/小时、每天10个小时计算,入职富士康的首月便可拿到至少12000元。

此前,为协助郑州富士康招工,河南部分街道、乡镇已收到具体分解任务指标。

周口市是河南豫东南地区的劳务输出大市,该市某乡镇工作人员告诉上证报记者,当地此前召开了一个关于安排富士康招工事项的视频调度会,要求各乡镇抓紧落实招工事宜。他所在的乡招工人数为150人左右,而对于人口较多的乡镇,还有指标超过200人的。“从和富士康方面对接的情况来看,目前富士康情况在逐步转好。”该人士也表示,不过招工压力仍然很大,“招工情况并不理想,县里也要求一个小时通报一次进度。”

有地区招工进展较为顺利。焦作市某街道办事处工作人员介绍,最近有陆续有数十人报名,集中隔离结束后便可前往郑州。

从“各地摊派”到“鼓励基层干部上阵”,一系列的操作足以看出,河南对于富士康的重视程度。

据河南日报报道,11月13日郑州富士康首批新员工已抵达厂区,“点对点”送来了新乡、驻马店、信阳、漯河等地的新员工。

当天下午,河南省委常委、常务副省长孙守刚到升级改造后的员工宿舍看望慰问首批入住的新员工,强调要始终把员工健康安全放在首位,用心用情做好服务保障,让员工住得安心放心舒心。


Zhengzhou Foxconn is recruiting new recruits? A few days ago, some areas in Henan Province encouraged civil servants, public institutions, and people from the three branches and one support to work at Foxconn and keep their original jobs. The wages and various preferential subsidies at Foxconn are all owned by individuals.

In this regard, a reporter from the Shanghai Securities News learned from a grass-roots person in Kaifeng that the city had received news that grass-roots cadres were mobilized to work at Foxconn in Zhengzhou. "The cadres are required to lead the team, and the working hours start from one month." The above-mentioned source revealed.

Regarding the conditions for joining Foxconn in Zhengzhou, a grassroots cadre in Jiyuan City, Henan Province revealed that they first need to train in the local area for three days, with a daily living allowance of 100 yuan, and then train in Zhengzhou for four days, with a daily living allowance of 400 yuan, totaling 1,900 yuan.

"The subsidy is conditional, and you can only enjoy it if you work for 30 days." According to the person, after joining the job, the local government will reward 800 yuan of labor subsidies, and Foxconn will also have a 3,000 yuan job stabilization subsidy after 30 days of work. "Hurry up and sign up, and the post stabilization subsidy will be reduced to 2,000 yuan later." He reminded.

According to the latest recruitment policy released by Zhengzhou Foxconn iDPBG Business Group on November 13, the new employees recruited this time will be recruited in the form of dispatched hourly workers, and employees will be paid 30 yuan/hour from the day of entry. Employees who register from November 9th to November 19th will enjoy an additional 3,000 yuan job stability allowance after 30 days of employment. The registration method is to be registered by the unified organization of human resources agencies, agencies, and employment agencies in various cities.

The reporter calculated that if he worked at Foxconn for 30 days, he could get 5,700 yuan in pure subsidies. In addition, based on the salary of 30 yuan per hour and 10 hours a day, you can get at least 12,000 yuan in the first month of joining Foxconn.

Previously, in order to assist Zhengzhou Foxconn in recruiting workers, some streets and towns in Henan have received specific decomposition task indicators.

Zhoukou City is a major exporter of labor services in the southeast of Henan Province. A township worker in the city told a reporter from the Shanghai Stock Exchange that a video scheduling meeting on Foxconn’s recruitment had been held in the city, and all townships were required to implement recruitment matters as soon as possible. The number of workers recruited in his township is about 150, and for towns with larger populations, there are still more than 200 workers. "Judging from the situation with Foxconn, the current situation at Foxconn is gradually improving." The person also said, but the pressure on recruitment is still high. "The recruitment situation is not ideal, and the county also requires an hourly report on the progress."

Recruitment progressed smoothly in some areas. According to a staff member of a sub-district office in Jiaozuo City, dozens of people have signed up recently, and they can go to Zhengzhou after the centralized quarantine is over.

From "apportionment from various places" to "encouraging grassroots cadres to join the battle", a series of operations are enough to show how much Henan attaches importance to Foxconn.

According to a Henan Daily report, on November 13, Zhengzhou Foxconn's first batch of new employees arrived at the factory, and "point-to-point" sent new employees from Xinxiang, Zhumadian, Xinyang, Luohe and other places.

In the afternoon, Sun Shougang, member of the Standing Committee of the Henan Provincial Party Committee and executive vice governor, visited the first batch of new employees in the upgraded staff dormitory. The staff live in peace of mind and comfort.

ronya fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Nov 23, 2022

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Truly a worker's paradise.

Roumba
Jun 29, 2005
Buglord

Atlas Hugged posted:

Chinese woman stabbed another Chinese woman 27 times in Bangkok today. Apparently there were blackmail photos involved.

I wonder if she'll go with the Burzum defense of "I stabbed him eight times and then he fell through a pane of glass and that accounts for the other stabbings".
Was it Thailand or China that had the ex-pat or whatever meeting with a blackmailer who threatens them with blackmail photos, but they go "Woah! All these are great. I need show these to my boss/dad/whatever. He'd get a kick out of it." and the blackmailer was supremely confused about what to do next. That was my favorite.

e: Awesome, thanks!

Roumba fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Nov 24, 2022

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
ex prez of indonesia sukarno

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-cia-and-kgb-tried-to-blackmail-this-world-leader-with-sex-tapes-927fc7ddbd48

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
So anyone read about those riots at fox con?

for some reason I keep thinking about that part of the grapes of wrath when they were getting pick up to work the orchards and they werent being clear about the wages.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I keep seeing videos of crowds of dabais beating the gently caress out of workers. Crazy poo poo.

PITY BONER
Oct 18, 2021
I keep beating da bai, and it keeps coming back for more. How do I stop this?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
no right to protest but a french-level amount of actual protesting. and big results from it too, tbh, they didnt 100x those wages out of the kindness of their hearts

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
How long until the lot of them get red coded, like with the banks?

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Forceholy posted:

How long until the lot of them get red coded, like with the banks?

Aren’t they all in quarantine at the factory already?

also what did happen with the banks anyway. I heard that a bunch of people from outside Henan who weren’t supposed to deposit in the first place weren’t going to be made whole, when orIginally only the brokers setting up the smurf accounts were supposed to be cut out, but the whole English media coverage seems to have fallen off after like a week

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party
The Foxconn protests seem to be a boon for Taiwan independence given how vocal people are that it's not a Chinese company:

https://twitter.com/realsteelmuslim/status/1595596038550990848

https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1595653461076766720

https://twitter.com/aerielist/status/1595643602671226881

https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1595738256288927744

Disheartening to see such splittism :(

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Hmm, I wonder how COVID zero is working out...


:ohno:

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

Ah yes, assembling the latest smartphones is "low end manufacturing".

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Xerxes17 posted:

Ah yes, assembling the latest smartphones is "low end manufacturing".
Nothing done in a tyvek suit is “low end”.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯
"Ah, yes, simply a mere labor dispute" say the avowed leftists and communists

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Am I missing something?

Nobody is defending Foxconn. Or at least nobody should be defending Foxconn.

And remember when their response to workers committing suicide due to overwork and terrible conditions was to put in nets, so the workers would not die and could instead go back to work? Every single report about that said it was a Taiwanese Company.

Nor have I seen anything anything conflating this to a protest against China or the CCP. It's all "Foxconn workers at the Foxconn factory in Zhengzhou are protesting at their treatment."

And what the gently caress does any of this have to do with Taiwan gaining independence?

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost
Tankies gonna tankie

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Living near some of their factories for years, and getting to know some neighbours who work there, the general impression of Foxconn as an employer seems to be "unusually prone to bullshit tricks, and unusually harsh when things don't work out, but they tend to pay more than nearby equivalent jobs, so people work for them."

This is only one location, and the plural of anecdote is not data, but that's what I've heard. And I guess secondhand beats tenth-hand or whatever?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I read a general ranking of places to work once, I think it was in Factory Girls. Like talking about what nationality of factory you want for being treated well/paid decently/etc. Japanese was the top IIRC, maybe German. Taiwan was down near the bottom (you'll never guess what the bottom was).

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



BrigadierSensible posted:

And what the gently caress does any of this have to do with Taiwan gaining independence?
it's just kind of funny that "china state-affiliated media" will use the forbidden name for chinese taipei when it's in the interests of offshoring the causes of protests in china.

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

BrigadierSensible posted:

And what the gently caress does any of this have to do with Taiwan gaining independence?

Taiwan is an inalienable part of China. Unless there is something bad associated with it. Then it suddenly becomes The Other and don't you dare confuse the two. It's amusing to see the heel turn.





Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯
It's almost like they're being intellectually (and morally) dishonest... 🤔

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
https://www.ft.com/content/929b69b4-7826-429d-9e1f-f178845fac8b

quote:

As case numbers soar, there are increasing signs of central intervention in cities across China, meaning a return to mass testing and quarantine.

In one example, following an inspection this week of the south-western megacity of Chongqing, vice-premier Sun Chunlan, who is Xi’s top zero-Covid enforcer, ordered officials to eliminate all community transmission in eight days.

That target, a local official said, was “impossible” to meet, meaning the situation risked mirroring events in Shanghai this spring when an initial two-day lockdown persisted for two months.

Coverage of the visit: http://www.cq.gov.cn/ywdt/jrcq/202211/t20221125_11334935.html

Still betting heavily on fangcang hospitals to isolate close contacts, even though those facilities should now decant more quickly

In hmm:

quote:

Another challenge to China changing course on zero-Covid would be the government narrative. Authorities need a different message to convince a fearful public that it is possible to live with the virus.

Hu Xijin, a former editor of the Global Times, a nationalist newspaper, told the Financial Times that ordinary Chinese people were “very worried” about the risks of infection, especially the dangers to children and the elderly, as well as the threat of quarantine.

Hu, who is in quarantine himself, said state media had not intentionally run campaigns to emphasise the dangers of the virus. “I never received such instructions during my final two years as the editor-in-chief,” he said.

However, he said that after watching the handling of the pandemic in the US and much of the west — and the high death toll — many Chinese gained a strong “sense of pride” in the country’s zero-Covid response.

Liqian Ren, who manages China investments at US-based WisdomTree Asset Management, believes abandoning zero-Covid must be preceded by a stark shift in domestic messaging from the very top: Xi himself.

“The propaganda machine needs to change, to say ‘this is not a scary disease’, to say ‘we have hospitals’ and ‘this is the success of the party’,” she said.

and as I've observed previously - China needs to be able to mobilize neighbouring teams to overcome shortages in ER capacity:

quote:

Ben Cowling, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Hong Kong, said China’s healthcare system risked being overwhelmed like that of Hong Kong earlier this year if it did not follow the likes of Singapore in preparing for an exit. That would involve radically changing the zero-Covid rules so that only severe cases were hospitalised.

“In Hong Kong, there was no concrete plan for exit; even in early March of 2022 [at the height of a big outbreak], there was still isolation of very mild cases in hospital and in isolation facilities when the resources should have been saved for the more severe ones,” he said. “The preparation makes a big difference.”

Others are less pessimistic. Ryan Manuel, managing director of Bilby, a consultancy that analyses Chinese government documents, said Beijing had signalled that it would ultimately embark on a staged reopening based on the ability to parachute in medical support teams from around the nation.

While this meant that any reopening would be “piecemeal”, it also meant “there won’t be a wholesale ‘let it rip’”, Manuel said.

this is stretching dynamic clearing to a faintly absurd point - the facilities are not allowed to isolate people for long enough to eliminate community transmission, but they're also not allowed to stop containing people until community transmission stops being detected

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Regionalizing COVID response to manage limited emergency medical resources seems impractical given how wildly transmissible it is. Unless they do something like, “okay Hangzhou, Chengdu, and Harbin are sealed off for the next two months while COVID burns itself out there, then repeat with the next group of cities”, which I can’t imagine is going to be a very popular idea.

Omicron spreads too easily to just be like “we’ll open up the whole country and respond to the hot spots”, they’ll all be hotspots. They either have to just rip the band aid off and get it done or continue the lockdown whack a mole for the rest of time.

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe
Shouldn't step 1 in getting out of Zero Covid be to get absolutely everyone vaccinated? Seems like the CCP should be able to go "It takes the vaccine or it gets the lockdown again" on the population.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Porfiriato posted:

Regionalizing COVID response to manage limited emergency medical resources seems impractical given how wildly transmissible it is. Unless they do something like, “okay Hangzhou, Chengdu, and Harbin are sealed off for the next two months while COVID burns itself out there, then repeat with the next group of cities”, which I can’t imagine is going to be a very popular idea.

they have done this a dozen times already now, they will prolly do it a dozen more times, unless they want american numbers dead after all this bullshit

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Mr. Sunshine posted:

Shouldn't step 1 in getting out of Zero Covid be to get absolutely everyone vaccinated? Seems like the CCP should be able to go "It takes the vaccine or it gets the lockdown again" on the population.

The currently dominant strains (such as BQ and XBB) are famously the most immune evasive things we've seen, even more evasive than SARS 1.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.15.507787v4

No vaccine works the way you suggest on COVID anymore, especially in terms of affecting the ability to trasmit the virus, which the vaccines were never good at even in 2021. Any strategy, here or in China, that leans exclusively on vaccinations without additional air hygeine and air isolation is bound to fail, resulting in a guaranteed national petrie dish of sickness and new strains. Most people do not know that about vaccines or their metrics, or don't want to know because it violates State promises that nothing difficult is or ever was required to avoid COVID. Generally only people who follow immunology literature know.

maxwellhill fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Nov 25, 2022

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Vaccination was always intended to buy time and there was never a plausible strategy where Covid didn't eventually enter general circulation for the foreseeable future.

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