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Should I step down as head of twitter
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RDM
Apr 6, 2009

I LOVE FINLAND AND ESPECIALLY FINLAND'S MILITARY ALLIANCES, GOOGLE FINLAND WORLD WAR 2 FOR MORE INFORMATION SLAVA UKRANI

koshmar posted:

Anyone else getting nothing but lovely meme aggregators with random URLs as their promoted tweets?


I'm also getting ads for lovely toys and puzzles I've never seen before

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Allegedly Elon was big on insisting "if other people do it we should be different just to be different". A bunch of Tesla's problem are supposedly rooted in that, because even down to common-sense machining/assembly practices were not allowed. Gotta be different and break the mould!!

musk also said humans have eyeballs that only use vis. light, therefore cams that only do vis. light is good enough.

fake edit : beaten on the eyeballs thing, but the next point still stands.

never mind the logic that cars should have two legs not wheels, or that a a ton of scifi is augmenting humans with a supa eyeball.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Musk posting "I'm neither left nor right" whilst installing the arbeit macht frei sign above the Twitter office entrance

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Leon is now asking for people to send him child porn instead of reporting it. Full mask-off paedophile.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Ratjaculation posted:

Musk posting "I'm neither left nor right" whilst installing the arbeit macht frei sign above the Twitter office entrance

"Woke sets you free (from your job, visa, housing etc etc)"

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I personally want to see how he is going to implement the system where you pay money to dm and harass celebrities

Step 1: Drive off all the celebrities from the platform

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Quote-Unquote posted:

Leon is now asking for people to send him child porn instead of reporting it. Full mask-off paedophile.

Naw he means what the "groomer" rhetoric refers to as child porn which means trans stuff. He's being a transphobe

E: but yeah he definitely may be a pedophile since he's buddies with ghislaine and epstein

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
I’m just a regular, middle-of-the-road kind of guy, but the WOKES are going to STEAL our PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Quote-Unquote posted:

Leon is now asking for people to send him child porn instead of reporting it. Full mask-off paedophile.

He's actually asking people to inform him of trans- and trans-positive accounts so he can ban those; he just phrased it like that because has fully internalized the blood groomer libel.

Any child porn he happens to get is just a nice bonus.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

The Saddest Rhino posted:

E: but yeah he definitely may be a pedophile since he's buddies with ghislaine and epstein

Not to stereotype but any billionaire I'm pretty suspicious about.

Wait no, I'm actually perfectly fine stereotyping about that.

Kale
May 14, 2010

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I personally want to see how he is going to implement the system where you pay money to dm and harass celebrities

I'm assuming Democratic politicians and organizations like the NAACP, Anti-Defamation League and other official accounts for organizations deemed too "woke" by Elon. I assume AOC just gets the bulk of it.

Ratjaculation posted:

Musk posting "I'm neither left nor right" whilst installing the arbeit macht frei sign above the Twitter office entrance

He more or less already did this with his Stay Work shirt joke. Right Wing think remains just so utterly alien too me. Sure I love to work for peanuts or even for free to enrich some loud mouthed rear end in a top hat that says things I agree with because I'm just functionally an empty vessel for a lovely reactionary ideology about preventing other people from living their lives the way they want. Sign me up Elon!

Kale fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Nov 25, 2022

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice
Right wing art lol. Just a neverending stream of Seal Team DVDs starring wrestlers and that one comic starring a big tiddied superhero wearing a Confederate flag for a mask shooting antifas.

Kale
May 14, 2010

Thundercracker posted:

Right wing art lol. Just a neverending stream of Seal Team DVDs starring wrestlers and that one comic starring a big tiddied superhero wearing a Confederate flag for a mask shooting antifas.

I thought female super heroes are bad and ruining movies and what not because any movie with a prominent female super hero leading the charge is automatically terrible writing forced onto the masses by "woke activist SJW groomer LGBT+ writers in Hollywood" and everyone should boycott and harass the actors in those movies right now. Isn't this like a beloved if not sacred right wing talking point. Also something something Star Wars.

Granted I think there is supposed to be some sort of exception in right wing nerd circles if they are depicted as conventionally attractive and their dialogue and character development is kept to an absolute minimum and they have next to no impact on the course of events. Then it's a triumphant victory against "SJW Woke Activist groups in L.A" forcing women into leading roles in movies against "our will" or some such rhetoric. Can't wait for Elon to really get into a movie chat cirle jerk with his right wing buddies. I assume that's coming soon since he just asked his flock what they think about the culture war. We haven't even gotten started with his full on bullshit I figure. It's like he's decided gently caress it if Trump won't come back he'll just complete his transition into the role of the Trump character for twitter that says something inflammatory and baiting towards anyone left of Ted Cruz or the Oath Keepers every single day.

Kale fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Nov 25, 2022

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022
Even if you ask a right winger wtf they’re so pissed about regarding woke, they’ll point to something like “critical race theory” which they claim is a method by which kids are taught about slavery and other pervious American sins and this makes the white kids feel bad and inferior.

That’s their whole opposition, that white kids will be forced to feel bad when they learn about history.

And then woke ideology forcing actors into movies. Like the reason Star Wars sucked recently was because Disney spent “too much time” casting black people or something?

To be a culture warrior you need to basically not understand anything at all. But the propaganda mill is effective.

I would love to know which exact “woke” thing Elon has him so pissed off (it’s definitely trans rights, 98% sure)

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Kale posted:

I thought female super heroes are bad and ruining movies and what not because any movie with a prominent female super hero leading the charge is automatically terrible writing forced onto the masses by "woke activist SJW groomer LGBT+ writers in Hollywood" and everyone should boycott and harass the actors in those movies right now. Isn't this like a beloved if not sacred right wing talking point. Also something something Star Wars.

As long as she knows that she's worse than the men and wears a revealing enough outfit, it's fine.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Thundercracker posted:

Right wing art lol. Just a neverending stream of Seal Team DVDs starring wrestlers and that one comic starring a big tiddied superhero wearing a Confederate flag for a mask shooting antifas.

Pepe memes, minions memes, whatever that Babylon bee video was that got posted earlier, and many more. It's a rich and very creative subculture

Kale
May 14, 2010

goatface posted:

As long as she knows that she's worse than the men and wears a revealing enough outfit, it's fine.

Yeah I've gathered this is how it works. I've also noticed right wingers seem to have been trying to co-opt and infiltrate anime circles insisting it's all about the women in tight or skimping clothing and claiming that Japan has "escaped the woke culture sweeping America and ruining OUR pop culture" while casually ignoring the whole anime/manga industries near constant refrain on the themes of the power of friendship, understanding, letting people be themselves and often cloyingly cutesy decidingly not masculine undertones. I guess a lot of them just saw R-18 fanart on twitter, never actually bothered to watch/read any media from Japan and decided yep that's what this is all about, let's use it for our talking points and rhetoric. Similarly I don't think they actually watch the movies they lose their poo poo over as evidence of "wokeism" ruining movies. I could come up with a thousand reasons why the new Star Wars movies kind of suck dicks that have nothing to do with gender roles, diversity or any of the other bullshit that gets spewed by Chuds.

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022
https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1596090371540365314

Gonna be honest, this sounds like conspiracy brain to me. Plausible, but still a little “they’re out to get us”

https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596041824573198336

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

That would be a great thing, jam that accelerator

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1596090371540365314

Gonna be honest, this sounds like conspiracy brain to me. Plausible, but still a little “they’re out to get us”

https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596041824573198336

I mean, the Right see's Elon as their new enforcer, so it totally makes sense that they can help get Left leaning accounts banned.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I miss RSS feeds. They only died because of Twitter, and now we need them back.

Bring back Google Reader too.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

It continues to be remarkable how well folks rebranded woke into being something that's destroying culture. My understanding was it was basically just a word for being aware of systemic racism and privilege, two pretty basic concepts supported by heaps of evidence over the years. It takes such a leap to take that some pedantic people that overuse those concepts in an annoying way to "our culture is being destroyed because someone pointed out white dudes have generally run things".

Everytime I see someone complain about it I just replace the generalisation with "a Disney film had two women holding hands once and I don't like that" or "I'm tired of Black Panther give me White Panther". It's just so childish.

quote:

I am neither conventionally right nor left, but I agree with your point.

The woke mind virus has thoroughly penetrated entertainment and is pushing civilization towards suicide.

There needs to be a counter-narrative.

Like, please, go on sir, what kind of entertainment are you missing so dearly.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009
If you define "wokeness" as being characterized by the dominant neo-liberal establishment group-think in our society, I do think there are criticisms to be made from a leftist perspective.

Some examples:

- Thinking politicians like Kamala Harris should be praised and honoured for being a black/Indian woman, despite the fact that she has little talent, and her career is defined by maintaining the status quo of enriching the ultra-wealthy

- Accusing Bernie Sanders of being racist because he prioritizes an economic populist message

- Mega corporations expressing token support for causes like Black Lives Matter, as a distraction to build public support while they oppress their employees and destroy the planet for profits

But there is no way that the right-wingers apply this reasoning in their arguments...

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1596090371540365314

Gonna be honest, this sounds like conspiracy brain to me. Plausible, but still a little “they’re out to get us”

https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596041824573198336

well we already know the right wing mass-abuses report functionality to get people unfairly banned so this seems entirely predictable

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Hardcastlemccormik posted:

https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1596090371540365314

Gonna be honest, this sounds like conspiracy brain to me. Plausible, but still a little “they’re out to get us”

https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596041824573198336

too stupid to realize that banning the libs means there's no one left to own

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

MikeJF posted:

I miss RSS feeds. They only died because of Twitter, and now we need them back.

Bring back Google Reader too.

I'm actually really surprised google hasn't tried to to put forward some twitter alternative during this time. It would probably fail like all their past SM tries, but seems odd they haven't even seemed to tried.

Not like they seem to be doing much else at the moment.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I mean, they've launched a direct analog of Twitter before with Google Buzz and failed, convincing execs to relaunch a failed product would be difficult. And it would just be lots of mocking from the general public for doing the same thing twice, too.

Also in general I think they feel really hurt with the failure of Google+ and are just super leery about social media products. (Except YouTube but that's quite different)

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

MikeJF posted:

I miss RSS feeds. They only died because of Twitter, and now we need them back.

Bring back Google Reader too.

I thought google got ride of rss, because they wanted people to join their version of facebook. ...what was that called google cirlce or something?

huh since advertisers pulled out elon should go full hardcore with twitter and allow everything!

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens
https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596062854922264576
Not sure how true this is, certainly wouldn't surprise me if it is, but here's the actual antifa list. dril is on there too, imagine banning dril from Twitter

Lucky Guy
Jan 24, 2013

TY for no bm

Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596062854922264576
Not sure how true this is, certainly wouldn't surprise me if it is, but here's the actual antifa list. dril is on there too, imagine banning dril from Twitter

he will never log off

necroid
May 14, 2009

yeah I just saw this posted by the attorney who had compiled a list of all police brutality videos during the 2020 protests (this one)

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596062854922264576
Not sure how true this is, certainly wouldn't surprise me if it is, but here's the actual antifa list. dril is on there too, imagine banning dril from Twitter

everyone_i_don't_like_is_a.meme

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Gerblyn posted:

Lots of people have been talking about why the Code Review poo poo that Elon has been pulling is dumb, but no-one's really explained why. So I've made an attempt to try and explain to a lay person what it actually is that makes this process such a terrible idea.



Code exists in a context
A piece of code is written to add functionality to a larger system, and the way it's written and how it works is highly dependent on how that larger system works. Your ability to judge that code is therefore dependent on how much you know about that system. I have 20+ years experience as gameplay programmer, and I wouldn't be able to review twitter's back end code even if it were written in C++, in the same way a twitter coder wouldn't be able to review mine. The contextual knowledge simply isn't there.

Even if you DO have that knowledge, you still need to speak to the coder because this poo poo is complicated and you yourself might be missing something. Sometimes I review something my colleague wrote and think "that's dumb, why did you do it like that?", so I go ask them and they explain, and I realize that it's actually a reasonable solution because of some complex detail about the system I didn't know.

The idea that an outsider like Elon could properly review twitter production code is absurd, he has no idea about the context of the code and one evening session scribbling diagrams on a whiteboard isn't even close to enough to give that.

Code is simple, knowing what to code is hard
Often when writing a piece of code, the majority of your time is spent trying to figure out the best approach to whatever problem you're trying to solve. Often a coder will go through several possible solutions before settling on one that is the best. There are a lot of factors to consider, for example:

- Will it run efficiently and quickly?
- If the system changes, will my code break?
- Can I reuse other code for this, to save time and prevent bugs?
- Can my code be reused for other problems I'll have in the future?

This means that you might spend 75% of their time thinking or experimenting or whatever your process is, while only spending 25% physically typing in the actual code to make it go. That resulting code might look really short and really simple, but that doesn't mean the coder is lazy or that the process to make that code was easy. Quite often it's the opposite!

Debugging is even worse, you could spend literally weeks going through code trying to identify a bug, only to discover that someone left out a minus sign in a single line of code somewhere. To someone like Elon, 80 hours to write a single character into a file would look appalling, but that 80 hours could have fixed a massive problem impacting thousands of users.

Bad code isn't the end of the world
This is probably going to be a controversial thing to say, but lots of very intelligent people write objectively bad code. Code which is hard to maintain or re-use. Code which is ugly, inelegant and inefficient. In the end though, on a practical level, if the code gets the job done that is often enough! Sometimes you look at a colleague's code and think it sucks, while at the same time being impressed that it actually solves an issue in a clever way that you would not have been able to do yourself.

The point is that if the coder has brains and talent, then that can be more valuable than the ability to write "good" code. We can teach people to write better code, we can't teach them to have more talent.

Elon's purge is guaranteed to get rid of talented, valuable people for bullshit reasons like "not enough comments in the header file" or "poor choice of variable names" or whatever else he read about in "Coding Standards for Dummies"

Conclusion
The best person to review code is another coder who works in the same area as the person being reviewed. For that to work you need competent coders who you can trust to be fair, and objective. Elon only trusts himself, so he's doomed to failure.

I'm nodding in agreement with this using an invisible bunny mob's player detection.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Steadiman posted:

Not sure how true this is, certainly wouldn't surprise me if it is, but here's the actual antifa list. dril is on there too, imagine banning dril from Twitter

libsoftiktok is antifa apparently

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

MikeJF posted:

I miss RSS feeds. They only died because of Twitter, and now we need them back.

Bring back Google Reader too.
RSS is still around :confused: almost every site still has a feed.

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens

repiv posted:

libsoftiktok is antifa apparently

Deep cover antifa account

Kale
May 14, 2010

Mozi posted:

well we already know the right wing mass-abuses report functionality to get people unfairly banned so this seems entirely predictable

Elon: "Troublesome. I'll get my best guys on it with the best lines of code. This woke activism has gone unchecked for far too long."

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

Steadiman posted:

https://twitter.com/efjbgc2/status/1596062854922264576
Not sure how true this is, certainly wouldn't surprise me if it is, but here's the actual antifa list. dril is on there too, imagine banning dril from Twitter

why can't the left do this

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Elon will purge the non right. Then once again another rightwing echo chamber will rise and fall in a week

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Jun 17, 2019




MikeJF posted:

I mean, they've launched a direct analog of Twitter before with Google Buzz and failed, convincing execs to relaunch a failed product would be difficult. And it would just be lots of mocking from the general public for doing the same thing twice, too.

the champion at google could just sell it to the execs as another texting app and they’d leap at the chance to do another of those, releasing new chat apps is google’s bread and butter

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