|
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Please come back. And tell your friends what a cool guy I am." Yes, go work for the company for 80 hours weeks, no benefits and a capricious idiot boss. https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1594920044533669888 Also: https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/1595127540397449217
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2022 05:03
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 06:28 |
|
|
https://www.tumblr.com/numberonecatwinner/701567544684855296/elon-wydquote:....
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2022 05:09
|
|
|
Man, I'm loving the content since Musk was forced to go through with this buyout.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2022 06:28
|
|
|
Name-post combo
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2022 07:03
|
|
|
I am absolutely not surprised that's the only way anyone ever got any work done around Musk. And it's probably the day to day of life around any billionaire.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2022 07:03
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/Paul_Reviews/status/1595421705996042240 Eufy camera, supposed to be local-only, is calling back to home base with a picture, which is accessible on the open web. Furthermore, it's storing a unique face id for the owner.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2022 17:09
|
|
|
I'm the only person in my family who works in IT and also the only person who has no IoT devices in their house.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2022 22:01
|
|
|
My problem with trying to live IoT free is it is a bitch of a time to find a TV that doesn't have it. Like I have a TV from a while ago that is technically a smart TV but you need to plug in the Internet instead of using WiFi so it's effectively a dumb TV. Kwyndig fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Nov 24, 2022 |
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 16:39
|
|
|
Kwyndig posted:My problem with trying to live IoT free is it is a bitch of a time to find a TV that doesn't have it. Get a computer monitor.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 16:51
|
|
|
Kwyndig posted:My problem with trying to live IoT free is it is a bitch of a time to find a TV that doesn't have it. Seriously, why does every effing TV have so many ads? And then I use pi-hole and after an update it breaks the functionality because they wanna try and block even that. I'd pay 50% more for a samsung with no bloatware and ads.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 16:51
|
|
|
Kwyndig posted:My problem with trying to live IoT free is it is a bitch of a time to find a TV that doesn't have it. Same, I have a "smart" TV from 10 years ago, but it hasn't been hooked up to the Internet in quite some time.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 16:54
|
|
|
I was dreading a TV upgrade for the longest time because folks in this thread had horror stories about ads, slow menus, mandatory wifi connectivity,and privacy issues. Then I bought one, spent 2 minutes figuring out how to set it to default to HDMI 1 rather than the built-in home screen, and control the entire thing with the remote from my streaming stick. I think y’all need to look at your settings menu before resorting to unhinged poo poo like buying giant computer monitors or $5k convention center displays.
Baronash fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Nov 24, 2022 |
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 17:04
|
|
|
Baronash posted:I was dreading a TV upgrade for the longest time because folks in this thread had horror stories about ads, slow menus, mandatory wifi connectivity,and privacy issues. Then I bought one, spent 2 minutes figuring out how to set it to default to HDMI 1 rather than the built-in home screen, and control the entire thing with the remote from my streaming stick. I think y’all need to look at your settings menu before resorting to unhinged poo poo like buying giant computer monitors or $5k convention center displays. Thank you for typing out what I was going to say. Yes, just do this. My TVs are nothing but a Roku displaying devices that are entirely controlled with the Roku remotes.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 17:20
|
|
|
All our TVs are some variety of "smart", but they all turn on and default to the HDMI plug, which... all have either a Chromecast or Shield TV. So I feel like I just traded from 2-3 different data harvesters to a single data harvester.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 17:40
|
|
|
PitViper posted:All our TVs are some variety of "smart", but they all turn on and default to the HDMI plug, which... all have either a Chromecast or Shield TV. So I feel like I just traded from 2-3 different data harvesters to a single data harvester. If you aren't preventing them from talking outside your Network then they are absolutely sending data back to some company. I ended up with some Google devices as well, but it wasn't too hard to lock them down on their own subnet and keep them isolated from everything else.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 17:47
|
|
|
Kwyndig posted:My problem with trying to live IoT free is it is a bitch of a time to find a TV that doesn't have it. Google tvs have had a "dumb tv mode" option that turns every smart feature off for about three years now.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 17:49
|
|
|
Heck Yes! Loam! posted:If you aren't preventing them from talking outside your Network then they are absolutely sending data back to some company. Oh, the TVs themselves are not attached to either wired or wifi networks. All our actual usage is through the Google TVs, except in the rare case we actually watch something OTA, which is through the TV itself but just hooks to the antenna in the attic.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 18:27
|
|
|
Anubis posted:Seriously, why does every effing TV have so many ads? And then I use pi-hole and after an update it breaks the functionality because they wanna try and block even that. I'd pay 50% more for a samsung with no bloatware and ads. Because they sell them for 33% less to more people instead.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 19:19
|
|
|
Chronojam posted:Because they sell them for 33% less to more people instead. I'm not entirely certain that they do pass on the "savings"
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 19:27
|
|
|
I have access control with a whitelist by MAC address turned on on my router, which the TV is definitely not on. Hoping that does the trick; I would think word would have gotten out if they've gotten around that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 20:29
|
|
|
Mister Facetious posted:I'm not entirely certain that they do pass on the "savings" Not in the least, but it gets their foot in more doors
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2022 23:34
|
|
|
so seems like twitter didn't break when the world cup happened?
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2022 00:35
|
|
|
Mister Facetious posted:I'm not entirely certain that they do pass on the "savings" As an example of how the savings are passed on: The entire Roku business model is to give you a relatively cheap peripheral that is paid for with media company sponsorship, so to speak. The buttons on the device leading to various services are not determined simply by what seems most convenient to the end user. A top-end Roku is roughly $70. (I personally like Roku because it's a better product than the crap that ships on smart TVs, setting aside myriad other issues with IoT).
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2022 00:41
|
|
|
NotJustANumber99 posted:so seems like twitter didn't break when the world cup happened?
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2022 07:38
|
|
|
NotJustANumber99 posted:so seems like twitter didn't break when the world cup happened?
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2022 11:25
|
|
|
LittleFuryThings posted:We are in the group stage. Resources will be more taxed in the knockout round and later matches, so still a chance! Eh it's not like someone has to manually turn a crank to keep twitter running, I assume it can run unsupervised for a while.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 07:18
|
|
|
BabyFur Denny posted:Eh it's not like someone has to manually turn a crank to keep twitter running, I assume it can run unsupervised for a while. About as well as unsupervised goons.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 07:55
|
|
|
Agents are GO! posted:About as well as unsupervised goons. Considering, historically, the levels of bullshit goons have gotten up to when unsupervised, I fear for Twitter's continued operation. But yeah, something as big as the blue bird isn't going to crash immediately when left without a stock of engineers. It's going to fall apart gradually like a decrepit house. Like more posts will either see the fail whale or just not post at all. Retrieving tweets will result in more "tweet not found" errors leading people to believe that their posts are deleted.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 08:22
|
|
|
Kwyndig posted:But yeah, something as big as the blue bird isn't going to crash immediately when left without a stock of engineers. It's going to fall apart gradually like a decrepit house. Like more posts will either see the fail whale or just not post at all. Retrieving tweets will result in more "tweet not found" errors leading people to believe that their posts are deleted. In I believe the elon thread someone link to a post something from one of the main software engineers on the backend who had left, where they said basically Twitter at the moment had been set up for a lot of the standard failures -sever suddenly doing odd stuff or whatever-, and do a lot of automatic troubleshooting, and rerouting of traffic to other parts that are working. That's meant to be a very simple tool just to keep thing running while people have enough time to actually have a good look at what happened. Side effect though even drastically short staffed Tweeter has enough good automation to keep the lights on for quite a while. It's gonna be the gradually rot that broad troubleshooting isn't designed to check on that will cause all the issue. I mean unless something really bad happens. End of the day highly complex system, no one really knows 100% for sure, can only make best guesses.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 08:52
|
|
|
I agree with what people are saying about there being some hardiness to Twitter, but I am reminded of that DNS screwup that knocked out all of Facebook's stuff for six hours about a year ago. That was at a place that still had some employees that could react to stuff. I really can't imagine Twitter rebounding from something like that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 09:23
|
|
|
What's going to break Twitter is Elon's endless accommodation of far-right grifters which will push advertisers and brands off the platform. You aren't going to get TV programmes soliciting interaction on a hashtag when it fills up with holocaust denial. It will then get dropped by the Google and Apple stores and only be accessible as a web app or side-loaded Android app (multiple clone apps will be made that attempt to steal crypto off people's phones knowing they can take advantage of people enabling developer mode to sideload the app). Musk will probably then try and sue Google and Apple.
Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Nov 26, 2022 |
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 12:37
|
|
|
The thing that gives me pause re: Twitter's stability is that, as recently as 2021, their own internal reports were showing that they do not have a plan for what happens if they need to do a complete cold boot of the site—i.e. everything has gone completely down, the only way to fix it is restarting every datacenter, every server, every service, etc.Rocko Bonaparte posted:I agree with what people are saying about there being some hardiness to Twitter, but I am reminded of that DNS screwup that knocked out all of Facebook's stuff for six hours about a year ago. That was at a place that still had some employees that could react to stuff. I really can't imagine Twitter rebounding from something like that. Pretty much this. If Twitter is put into a situation where they need to completely restart everything, as they are right now, I have my doubts that they'll be able to come back.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 12:51
|
|
|
Very few big systems have a plan for how to recover from a full and complete outage. Cyclical dependencies sneak in almost inevitably. Like, at work I know I can recover from a complete outage of Active Directory. However, if the outage is caused by DNS or DHCP breaking, then I know for a fact that I'll need someone to physically go and hotwire the DNS/DHCP system, because it authenticates against AD and I wouldn't be able to login to fix anything. I also know there are some precautions (the admin team responsible has backup credentials that don't depend on AD working), but I guarantee that there are failure modes that require someone who knows the systems well to wrench them into working again. Twitter is a lot more complex than our systems. There are going to be novel failure states that require specialist knowledge, or ones that will be introduced because the people who would recognise the danger aren't around anymore. The idea that a system like Twitter would implode just because of high traffic is almost certainly wrong. It'll be an unpaid bill leading to a domain expiring, an expired TLS certificate of a backend service because the auto-renewal silently broke, clock drift resulting from a shut down NTP server…
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2022 13:27
|
|
|
Thanks Ants posted:What's going to break Twitter is Elon's endless accommodation of far-right grifters which will push advertisers and brands off the platform. You aren't going to get TV programmes soliciting interaction on a hashtag when it fills up with holocaust denial. It will then get dropped by the Google and Apple stores and only be accessible as a web app or side-loaded Android app (multiple clone apps will be made that attempt to steal crypto off people's phones knowing they can take advantage of people enabling developer mode to sideload the app). Musk will probably then try and sue Google and Apple. Elon's said if Goog and Apple ban twitter he'll make his own smartphone, because god has run out of jokes now that Elon exists.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2022 00:44
|
|
|
Is he aware of how much money it costs to develop and manufacture a smart phone? He'll run out of Tesla money if it isn't immediately a hit.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2022 00:51
|
|
|
Making a basic Android smartphone probably isn't very hard. There's tons of cheap ones from random OEM's, especially in poorer countries. The real problem is making an OS, now that would be an enormous effort. Though I suppose you could maybe take one of the Android forks or other 'alternative' OSes that have permissive licensing terms and use that. It would still fail miserably though. People aren't gonna buy a Muskphone just to have Twitter. Especially since you'd still be able to just use the webapp on Android/iOS, even if the app was banned.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2022 00:57
|
|
|
Kwyndig posted:Is he aware of how much money it costs to develop and manufacture a smart phone? He'll run out of Tesla money if it isn't immediately a hit. Anyone remember the phone the RED Camera company made lol
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2022 01:02
|
|
|
Kwyndig posted:Is he aware of how much money it costs to develop and manufacture a smart phone? He'll run out of Tesla money if it isn't immediately a hit. In fairness, it doesn't really look like a serious plan, just blindly shitposting whatever his followers want to hear, especially the fringe right-wingers. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1596268804413476864
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2022 01:21
|
|
|
Main Paineframe posted:In fairness, it doesn't really look like a serious plan, just blindly shitposting whatever his followers want to hear, especially the fringe right-wingers. This. He's lied about putting people on Mars, ending car traffic and pollution, turning people into brain cyborgs, making robots and his chuds just push themselves harder onto his wang. Why not add one more? If he said paying 8 bucks for a new checkmark adds 6 months to your life each time you do it, they'd pay up and start bragging to each other how they'll live to be 400. Pfft, you only bought 6 extra decades? You broke rear end loser. Guess we'll have to enjoy the Elontopia without you!
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2022 01:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 06:28 |
|
|
Kwyndig posted:Is he aware of I'm gonna just stop you there. The answer is, invariably, no.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2022 02:21
|
|