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Arson Daily posted:I think that there is a market for a goldwing-like bike that doesn't start at $28,000 american dollars. I'm personally not one of those people but I can see Honda's reasoning there. It's called a used Goldwing.
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Remy Marathe posted:Not gonna lie, my first thought on seeing those bags was great but now give me 3x the space, give me a trunk, and I think it ended at Goldwing The bags on the current goldwings aren't much if any bigger than what they have on that Rebel, tbh. You can see how shallow they are in the pic below. Slavvy posted:Not to mention they already have the relatively popular goldwing bagger that actually hits the demo most bagger buyers are a part of. I don't see a ton of the GW baggers rolling around here. I still like this take on one from a couple years back 
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The F6B was the factory bagger option, it is discontinued, and I dont think it sold too well
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This is sick Jim Silly-Balls posted:The F6B was the factory bagger option, it is discontinued, and I dont think it sold too well Aw. Predictable.
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FBS posted:It's called a used Goldwing. 
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Arson Daily posted:I think that there is a market for a goldwing-like bike that doesn't start at $28,000 american dollars. I'm personally not one of those people but I can see Honda's reasoning there. Luckily Honda already built it, here you go https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/honda/nt1100/2022/ Same underpinning as AT, with touring suspension and luggage. All adjusted for comfort
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Nitrox posted:Luckily Honda already built it, here you go Feels like there are way too many THINGS on this bike (5 driver modes, 500 screen settings, remote preload, bla bla bla)
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All those things rule though. Being able to pres butan and have firmer or softer suspension immediately is super nice.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:All those things rule though. Until they break and are unfixable
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They're amazing while they're under warranty with dealer parts support. After the fact it's just another liability. See: 10+ year old luxury vehicles.
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I dunno I used to have an 86 goldwing up until June of this year and the electronic preload worked front and rear on it still My 02 goldwing has remote preload that still works fine 20 years later I get what you’re saying, but some of it lasts
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How much software does your goldwing have
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It’s more firmware on an 02
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custom built asic goes brrrr. It's not the asic that fails. It's where its tendrils reach into that takes a fat poo poo.
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"I don't want a bike that might have a stepper motor in it that could fail in 20 years and not have replacement parts available" *buys a different bike every few years*
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Finger Prince posted:"I don't want a bike that might have a stepper motor in it that could fail in 20 years and not have replacement parts available" dentists.txt
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Probably about half of the regulars in this forum would be able and willing to fabricate some sort of custom replacement stepper motor adapter and harness anyway. Nothing is ever totally irreparable.
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Nitrox posted:Luckily Honda already built it, here you go Still no information on if it will be available in the US sadly. We tend to only get cruisers and goldwings.
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BabelFish posted:Still no information on if it will be available in the US sadly. We tend to only get cruisers and goldwings. SocksAndSandals posted:Feels like there are way too many THINGS on this bike (5 driver modes, 500 screen settings, remote preload, bla bla bla) Nitrox fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 25, 2022 |
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Modern bikes are mostly dumb consumer garbage I agree
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cursedshitbox posted:dentists.txt Has anyone owned the same bike for, say, 10ish years (to pick an arbitrary longish number)? 5? Just curious if it's more normal than I think it is.
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Yes, but I’ve also owned between 60 and 70 bikes, so my use cases are generally far from normal I’ve had my rv90 since pre-2010 and my f11-250 from about the same time and it’s been in my family since the mid 80’s or so
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I kept my first big bike (cbr600f) for 7 years. Then dropped it at a petrol station and have been on 1 bike a year since then. Due to the financial crisis and being on intermittent strike action this year and for at least the near future I’ll have to keep my current bike for a few years. Luckily it’s my favourite bike I’ve owned since the old cbr.
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Nitrox posted:
Actually yeah tbh....All my bikes are pre-2005 and the only post 2010+ one I have is an enduro with the most advanced feature being able to toggle ABS, the ability physically adjust the preload on the fly, and aftermarket heated grips Actually the most advanced feature is wheelies bike pic since this is the pics thread: 
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If I was sitting on twenty five grand, I'd rather have a honda with heated seats that shits the bed after 300k miles than a barebones bike that can get to 400k after five engine rebuilds or whatever. Pretty sure 99% of car consumers feel similarly at peace about their luxury car that becomes prohibitively expensive to repair after 200k miles. Wrenchers are a small demographic who I respect a great deal, but they shouldn't be surprised that the industry's ignoring them.
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Llewellyn posted:If I was sitting on twenty five grand, I'd rather have a honda with heated seats that shits the bed after 300k miles than a barebones bike that can get to 400k after five engine rebuilds or whatever. Pretty sure 99% of car consumers feel similarly at peace about their luxury car that becomes prohibitively expensive to repair after 200k miles. Wrenchers are a small demographic who I respect a great deal, but they shouldn't be surprised that the industry's ignoring them. Agreeing with this. There are plenty of good 10-20 year old bikes with none of the bells and whistles that will keep those interested in them going until we ban fossil fuels.
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Finger Prince posted:Has anyone owned the same bike for, say, 10ish years (to pick an arbitrary longish number)? 5? Just curious if it's more normal than I think it is. I had my XJ600 for 11 years. It was good, I really enjoyed riding it till the day I sold it. I just got more interested in dual sport stuff than street and had a new baby so couldn't justify having two bikes.
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SocksAndSandals posted:Actually yeah tbh....All my bikes are pre-2005 and the only post 2010+ one I have is an enduro with the most advanced feature being able to toggle ABS, the ability physically adjust the preload on the fly, and aftermarket heated grips This is all the features you need Llewellyn posted:If I was sitting on twenty five grand, I'd rather have a honda with heated seats that shits the bed after 300k miles than a barebones bike that can get to 400k after five engine rebuilds or whatever. Pretty sure 99% of car consumers feel similarly at peace about their luxury car that becomes prohibitively expensive to repair after 200k miles. Wrenchers are a small demographic who I respect a great deal, but they shouldn't be surprised that the industry's ignoring them. You are drastically, drastically overestimating how long it takes for a luxury car to turn into a useless paperweight. Oibignose posted:until we ban fossil fuels. Lol good one
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I could easily get a Lexus to 200k but I guess I just love motor vehicles more than you?
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Well yeah obviously if you cherry-pick a Lexus, lol. Lexus is "what if you had a Toyota, but it didn't have to be built down to a cost?" Try getting a luxury car built in any country other than Japan to 200k without a major catastrophe. BMW lol Mercedes lol Audi lol Jaguar lmao
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Italians lmao
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Finger Prince posted:Has anyone owned the same bike for, say, 10ish years (to pick an arbitrary longish number)? 5? Just curious if it's more normal than I think it is. 12 years for my Buell and 9 for my DRZ. But I'm a cheap weirdo
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Bought my tiger as an ex-demo bike in early 2011 and it's been my only daily ride since then. 30k on it now and no major issues, which surprises me to this day because my 2004 Daytona was a total mess. I'd like abs and cruise control but gently caress a tft dash and an app on my phone. Plus idk where a lot of these new bikes exist other than reviewers garages because it seems like there is absolutely nothing to buy.
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Sagebrush posted:Well yeah obviously if you cherry-pick a Lexus, lol. Lexus is "what if you had a Toyota, but it didn't have to be built down to a cost?" This whole convo started with Honda, it's cherry-picking to use Jaguar to bolster an argument that fancy doodads somehow make a car/bike inherently unreliable. If Acura still exists (no way of knowing) I bet they make reliable cars too, and if Jaguar made an econobox I bet it would break down immediately.
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Acura is still in business though they aren't quite as far removed from Honda as Lexus is from Toyota.
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Llewellyn posted:I could easily get a Lexus to 200k but I guess I just love motor vehicles more than you? Lol
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Finger Prince posted:Has anyone owned the same bike for, say, 10ish years (to pick an arbitrary longish number)? 5? Just curious if it's more normal than I think it is. I've owned a '94 GN125 since 2012 and a '04 EX250 since 2017 as its backup. I've been riding since 2002, but the GN is the only motorcycle where I've gone through multiple sets of tires. When I was younger, I thought that it would be cool to shuffle ownership much more often, to try more stuff out, but that's just not as important as other things became. And nothing can really replace the EASE of such small, approachable motorcycles, both on the seat and off of it. Like, nothing is 232 lbs. any longer. Or has such a tight turning circle. Or is so simple to repair. Or has such good fuel economy. etc. Even the ninja gets 65 mpg (which is pretty ridiculous considering the performance jump between them). These are real assets to keep a complicated world from becoming too complicated.
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Everyone should buy a new different bike every year just in case.
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It's always amazing how rapidly Americans manage to destroy German cars. I guess distances covered are less here but, yknow, people do also stick to the maintenance schedules.
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knox_harrington posted:It's always amazing how rapidly Americans manage to destroy German cars. I guess distances covered are less here but, yknow, people do also stick to the maintenance schedules. Lol
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