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mcmagic posted:It's like 10%/90% The police are good and if they do something that you think looks racist you are wrong. The cops don't really do anything wrong in the movie lol
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Maybe I'm giving the movie more credit than it deserves, but I'm assuming that the reason nobody trusts the police and that they're willing to go from 0 to 100 so fast is that there's been such a long history of racist violence from the police that there's no way anyone has any reason to trust them this time. It's effectively irrelevant whether they did or didn't do what they're accused of: they've done so much horrible stuff that they're perpetually guilty and they're responsible for what's going on. After all, that's how it works in real life. Yeah no poo poo but that is why the movie being about the one in a million time where the police are set up in some kind of false flag plot is so dumb..... What exactly is it's point? mcmagic fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Yeah I mean I agree with you that it's a really weird movie, tonewise.
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Everything Everywhere All at Once is on Showtime. Great movie
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All the Time I Lost All at Once Watching It (some people like it, that’s cool, wish I’d stopped once it revealed itself)
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It was cool. Cat fight is better tho same thing really more funny for sure 
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Nov 26, 2022 06:55
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Black Adam was pretty garbage, not much to recommend there. Turns out if you strip all charisma away from the Rock you aren't left with much. Though I will say his penchant for tossing random henchmen miles into the distance was pretty fun.
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I binged all of Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix yesterday recovering from a Thanksgiving hangover. I saw someone in this thread recommend it, and someone else point out that the host is a bit of a kook, so I went in with a skeptical mind. I thought it was a pretty interesting show overall. The guy definitely has a persecution complex, and the fact that he kept on showing clips of him on Joe Rogan actually hurt his credibility. When he relied on the help of other experts, like demonstrating that some of these ancient monuments were likely built on top of even older possibly ice age monuments, or showing that all of these ancient sites all perfectly matched up with constellations from 9500 years ago (the end of the ice age), he managed to have a pretty convincing argument. When left to spin his own theories, like proposing that map makers in the 1500s were copying from maps made 9500 years ago, or that all these ancient sites across the globe were part of one singular ice age civilization, he flounders and I see why people discredit his work.
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Nihonniboku posted:I binged all of Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix yesterday recovering from a Thanksgiving hangover. I saw someone in this thread recommend it, and someone else point out that the host is a bit of a kook, so I went in with a skeptical mind.
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sounds like he spent too much time on r/culturallayer
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Is this the poo poo where white experts say that indigenous civilizations couldn't possibly make monuments without the help of aliens
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I think it’s more like there were even more ancient civilizations that we don’t even know existed Edit there does seem to be a correlation between alt right weirdos and alternative history conspiracy theories A MIRACLE fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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Nov 26, 2022 18:52
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Don't worry darling was pretty good and then the last like twenty minutes happened and lmao wtf at that ending
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One of the core tenets of fascism is appealing to a lost (almost always fictional) golden era. Fascists see modern society as decadent, so the idea of an ancient culture with advanced technology without all the post Enlightenment values of inclusion and tolerance really gets these white dudes worked up. Bonus points if the discovery of the civilization can upend a bunch of scholarly assumptions about human history (take that, woke professors, we'll see who cancels who). There's a reason that the History channel morphed very quickly into a collection of alt history alien bullshit platforming. Chuds love that poo poo.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:One of the core tenets of fascism is appealing to a lost (almost always fictional) golden era. Fascists see modern society as decadent, so the idea of an ancient culture with advanced technology without all the post Enlightenment values of inclusion and tolerance really gets these white dudes worked up. Bonus points if the discovery of the civilization can upend a bunch of scholarly assumptions about human history (take that, woke professors, we'll see who cancels who). Now that you mention it, he did keep on saying things like that throughout the series, how modern society is going to repeat the same mistakes of the past that humans did way back during the ice age. I had no idea that's what he was implying. Shageletic posted:Is this the poo poo where white experts say that indigenous civilizations couldn't possibly make monuments without the help of aliens He didn't say anything about aliens, but he did keep on going on about how all these different cultures all have stories of similar sounding people who taught them about civilization.
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That poo poo is literally the setting of Conan the Barbarian, the Hyborian Age.
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Nihonniboku posted:He didn't say anything about aliens, but he did keep on going on about how all these different cultures all have stories of similar sounding people who taught them about civilization. And what color of skin do you suppose he thought those people had? Historically this poo poo all goes back to the "these brown-skinned primitives couldn't possibly have built anything impressive or 'civilized'!" narrative. It's easily tracable back to at least the late 1800s with the Hollow Earth and Land of Mu stories, and certainly have many more precedents. The racism is baked in at a core level.
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Athena was such a weird experience, I guess just being a culture war pawn. Like I first saw the trailer youtube and it looked dope and was full of angry CHUD comments, so naturally I'm interested...and like, the first 65% of the film more or less holds that up...until the final reveals where it's like no actually we just made secret copaganda out of this ostensibly dope angry revolutionary film and it's all so jarring that my brain just tried not processing it cuz all the stuff that led up to it was dope. I still included it in my top films of the year list and so I probably need my brains checked.
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feedmyleg posted:And what color of skin do you suppose he thought those people had? He didn't say I don't think, but you guys are all spelling it out in such a way that I'm embarrassed I caught none of it
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The unfortunate reality is that 99% of conspiracy theories eventually get back to racism or antisemitism, even ones you wouldn’t think would be questionable. I’m not entirely sure if it was always this way and we were just more ignorant/innocent in the 90s when stuff like The X-Files made it fun, but nowadays it zaps nearly all of the enjoyment out of it.
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Nihonniboku posted:I binged all of Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix yesterday recovering from a Thanksgiving hangover. I saw someone in this thread recommend it, and someone else point out that the host is a bit of a kook, so I went in with a skeptical mind. It's 99% bullshit, OP, and the host is a massive conspiratorial crank. There's no actual evidence of any advanced, complex societies existing during the Ice Age. His claims about "mainstream archaeologists" hiding the REAL TRUTH are about as balanced as those of climate change deniers calling out climate scientists, and, as noted above, his theory has more than a tinge of white supremacy bullshit to it. Hope this helps. https://slate.com/culture/2022/11/ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-netflix-theory-explained.html MeinPanzer fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 26, 2022 |
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david_a posted:The unfortunate reality is that 99% of conspiracy theories eventually get back to racism or antisemitism, even ones you wouldn’t think would be questionable. I’m not entirely sure if it was always this way and we were just more ignorant/innocent in the 90s when stuff like The X-Files made it fun, but nowadays it zaps nearly all of the enjoyment out of it. I think it's a somewhat new thing. At least in the 90s and early 00s a lot of conspiracy theories centered around shadowy, explicitly Christian organizations.
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Nihonniboku posted:He didn't say I don't think, but you guys are all spelling it out in such a way that I'm embarrassed I caught none of it You shouldn't be embarrassed - a lot of this stuff is deeply coded and someone going in without any inkling could easily get preached to and never realize it. The "I'm interested in history" to fash pipeline is very real and the people who make this stuff have had decades (centuries in come cases) of examples to crib from.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Athena was such a weird experience, I guess just being a culture war pawn. Like I first saw the trailer youtube and it looked dope and was full of angry CHUD comments, so naturally I'm interested...and like, the first 65% of the film more or less holds that up...until the final reveals where it's like no actually we just made secret copaganda out of this ostensibly dope angry revolutionary film and it's all so jarring that my brain just tried not processing it cuz all the stuff that led up to it was dope. Even in the first part of the film they are doing the whole "we're gonna show 3 POVs, one being a cop and show how violence is bad" thing. Even if you take that on it's face it's patently ridiculous because the film starts with the premise that they just killed an innocent kid for no reason!
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Simplex posted:I think it's a somewhat new thing. At least in the 90s and early 00s a lot of conspiracy theories centered around shadowy, explicitly Christian organizations. There was plenty of it back then, too.
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Warrior Nun was a lot better than something named Warrior Nun has the right to be.
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Crimes of the Future is cool but kind of just tapers off at the end. I liked Kristen Stewart as a weird lonely nerd and Viggo's sith robes. The Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special was very obviously shooting around Chris Pratt's limited availability or something because they go all in on Drax and Mantis and let's just say a little bit goes a long way. Smiling Friends was good enough to throw on while I was working but college me would have loving loved it. The first episode is probably the best but I did enjoy the Bakshi-style animation for the halfling in the fantasy episode and the Brazil one was delightful. I also gave The Mick a chance on a lark and its not bad but lol that two Always Sunny actors had "what if a very slightly tweaked version of my popular jerk character had to interact with children" sitcoms that didn't get off the ground. Wolfsheim fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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Nihonniboku posted:I binged all of Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix yesterday recovering from a Thanksgiving hangover. I saw someone in this thread recommend it, and someone else point out that the host is a bit of a kook, so I went in with a skeptical mind. lol r u serious Nihonniboku posted:He didn't say I don't think, but you guys are all spelling it out in such a way that I'm embarrassed I caught none of it lol sorry but dude cmon
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A MIRACLE posted:I think it’s more like there were even more ancient civilizations that we don’t even know existed Chariot of Fire was literally written by a Nazi member lol E: lol meant Chariots of the God's the book that started the modern fascination with this poo poo Shageletic fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Nov 27, 2022 |
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Simplex posted:I think it's a somewhat new thing. At least in the 90s and early 00s a lot of conspiracy theories centered around shadowy, explicitly Christian organizations. There are letters complaining in paranormal mags about the shift to right-wing politics, its a perennial thing
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Shageletic posted:There are letters complaining in paranormal mags about the shift to right-wing politics, its a perennial thing I bought a series of Flying Saucer newsletters from the early 1950s, spanning just a few years. A small Midwestern club made up of locals. In the first issue it's so optimistic about finding a community of people who question the official story and building a group of citizen scientists. The final issue is an acerbic screed about how toxic and backwards and conservative and political the community has become. It's not perfenial, it's eternal.
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welp i'm watching manifest on netflix and it gives me some of those old  vibes. i can appreciate a hokey scifi puzzle reveal show. some good performances and low budget cgi, what's not to like?
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Lazy_Liberal posted:welp i'm watching manifest on netflix and it gives me some of those old What's in the mystery box
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Wolfsheim posted:The Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special was very obviously shooting around Chris Pratt's limited availability or something because they go all in on Drax and Mantis and let's just say a little bit goes a long way. I have a modicum of interest in this as the Old 97's, a band that I've enjoyed for many years, makes an appearance, in costume as aliens or something?
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Bayham Badger posted:I have a modicum of interest in this as the Old 97's, a band that I've enjoyed for many years, makes an appearance, in costume as aliens or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2yM0G-SI4 More than an appearance, they sing the best song in the show!
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Medullah posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2yM0G-SI4 Oh yeah this is easily the best part, and it's not bad at all it just clearly has the two least expensive characters (by way of paycheck or CGI) having an adventure by themselves for a large portion of the runtime
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