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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

ffs

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Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

If you wanna be Big Israel you gotta have a genocide to justify your genocide. The Ukr genius here is that making it up is way easier than actually being genocided.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

Rent-A-Cop posted:

If you wanna be Big Israel you gotta have a genocide to justify your genocide. The Ukr genius here is that making it up is way easier than actually being genocided.

you gotta work with the tools you got

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Naming it something as close to Holocaust as possible was a stroke of genius on the part of the emigre community.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

still finding it hard to believe that bloody joseph "worse than hitler" would have the patience, in this one instance, to let his political enemies starve to death rather than just having them murdered outright. think his therapist was having him experiment in delaying gratification?

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
stalin dropped the ball on that one for sure no doubt.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Slim Jim Pickens posted:

I remember seeing this being claimed around a month ago. Is it supposed to have happened again?

Another confusing aspect of this war is that sometimes the journalists gnash at the bit and break a story 10 minutes after the Ukrainians send a missile at Poland, and then sometimes they repackage something that happened ages ago.

The article is confirming it was the incident from last month, yeah

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007


kieth starver

Shogi
Nov 23, 2004

distant Pohjola
Keir ‘double genocide’ Starmer, scourge of labour antisemitism. Loads of ‘socialists’ believed his obvious bullshit and helped vote him in lol

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

speng31b posted:

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/11/27/why-ukraine-should-not-accept-a-dayton-accords-style-peace

at the spectre of peace being raised everyone's coming out of the woodwork to push for more war.

Republika Srpska is a problem for Bosnia so Zelensky should not under any circumstances let areas that don't want to be part of Ukraine leave. I am very smart.

Am I wrong in thinking Republika Srpska probably should have been allowed to join Serbia in the 90s?

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Not So Fast posted:

The article is confirming it was the incident from last month, yeah

No it isn't, it just says that Ukraine confirms it. Which is meaningless, Ukraine claimed it happened in the first place.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
if the holodomor acknowledgements really get going a whole bunch of historians are going to lose their jobs when people start digging into the actual academic historiography

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Shogi posted:

Keir ‘double genocide’ Starmer, scourge of labour antisemitism. Loads of ‘socialists’ believed his obvious bullshit and helped vote him in lol

Everyone is a socialist now, it's the cool thing to be. A bunch of bernie or busters on twitter now call themselves marxists despite their politics not changing at all.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

there are 3-4 extensive wikipedia articles on it, would be interesting to see when they all got massively expanded

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

Weka posted:

Republika Srpska is a problem for Bosnia so Zelensky should not under any circumstances let areas that don't want to be part of Ukraine leave. I am very smart.

Am I wrong in thinking Republika Srpska probably should have been allowed to join Serbia in the 90s?

The currently accepted RS is split into 2 non-contiguous parts, only a portion of it borders Serbia, the other half borders Croatia. pre-War Bosnia wasn't divided into 2 discrete parts based on religion or language.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

No it isn't, it just says that Ukraine confirms it. Which is meaningless, Ukraine claimed it happened in the first place.

articles from "reputable western outlets" that state something as fact but then when you read the text it's "Ukrainian officials said X" are the bread and butter of western propaganda right now

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Dreylad posted:

if the holodomor acknowledgements really get going a whole bunch of historians are going to lose their jobs when people start digging into the actual academic historiography

that's part of the plan imo. we're going back to the halcyon days of sovietology

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

ItohRespectArmy posted:

i will personally kill any and all advisors

You can disable them in the game setting menu

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

tristeham posted:

that's part of the plan imo. we're going back to the halcyon days of sovietology

They’ll have to close the Soviet Archives or claim the contents are Russian Disinformation then. For example, it was once widely reported that the Soviets shot POWs out of hand as much as the Germans while archival evidence shows how far from the truth that is.

e: The KGB and Stasi archives, far from showing spies and torturers behind every corner show more or less what you’d expect in Federal Policing with some pretty impressive police work and reasonable discretion. You can disagree with the intentions, obviously, but side by side with the RCMP of the 70’s and 80’s they were at least looking for people subverting the state (as they saw it) rather than homosexuals in public life.

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 21:17 on Nov 27, 2022

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Throatwarbler posted:

The currently accepted RS is split into 2 non-contiguous parts, only a portion of it borders Serbia, the other half borders Croatia. pre-War Bosnia wasn't divided into 2 discrete parts based on religion or language.

What was pre war Bosnia though? A constituent republic of a larger polity whose borders had been set by what, the Ottomans? Did those borders really mean much within Yugoslavia?

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Frosted Flake posted:

They’ll have to close the Soviet Archives or claim the contents are Russian Disinformation then. For example, it was once widely reported that the Soviets shot POWs out of hand as much as the Germans while archival evidence shows how far from the truth that is.

I think they'll just do what jordan peterson said and state that the archival sources can't be trusted because the soviets would lie about their crimes.

which of course suddenly invalidates a whole bunch of soviet massacres/war crimes we only know about because of that archival material but never mind

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Why do you need advisers for something as simple as the 136 drones?

It's like "Advisor for ramen cooking".

They probably just ran over some Persian looking fellas.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

stephenthinkpad posted:

Why do you need advisers for something as simple as the 136 drones?

It's like "Advisor for ramen cooking".

They probably just ran over some Persian looking fellas.

a man can do some amazing things with ramen noodles, you need a ramen advisor

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

They’ll have to close the Soviet Archives or claim the contents are Russian Disinformation then. For example, it was once widely reported that the Soviets shot POWs out of hand as much as the Germans while archival evidence shows how far from the truth that is.

e: The KGB and Stasi archives, far from showing spies and torturers behind every corner show more or less what you’d expect in Federal Policing with some pretty impressive police work and reasonable discretion. You can disagree with the intentions, obviously, but side by side with the RCMP of the 70’s and 80’s they were at least looking for people subverting the state (as they saw it) rather than homosexuals in public life.

No, you see, the Germans were honorable soldiers who kept accurate depictions of their atrocities while the perfidious, inferior Russians

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Dreylad posted:

I think they'll just do what jordan peterson said and state that the archival sources can't be trusted because the soviets would lie about their crimes.

which of course suddenly invalidates a whole bunch of soviet massacres/war crimes we only know about because of that archival material but never mind

Or that how does a bureaucracy exist with completely falsified records even for sundry information such as supply data.

Or the Soviets had two archives and somehow that works without no body knowing about it.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Comrade Koba posted:

kieth starver

the British do know a lot about intentionally creating famines

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Dreylad posted:

if the holodomor acknowledgements really get going a whole bunch of historians are going to lose their jobs when people start digging into the actual academic historiography

Is a Holodomor acknowledgement like a land acknowledgement

https://twitter.com/ACLUVA/status/1595798645550379008?t=9EEXe7Ak8FKKT7EdfscbXQ&s=19

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Dreylad posted:

I think they'll just do what jordan peterson said and state that the archival sources can't be trusted because the soviets would lie about their crimes.

which of course suddenly invalidates a whole bunch of soviet massacres/war crimes we only know about because of that archival material but never mind

Well, at least they'll undoubtedly be intellectually consistent enough to discount those massacres and war crimes- pffffft I'm sorry I can't keep a straight face

indigi
Jul 20, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Dreylad posted:

if the holodomor acknowledgements really get going a whole bunch of historians are going to lose their jobs when people start digging into the actual academic historiography

I don't think they will. in fact some will get better paying jobs by continuing to obfuscate the issue

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1596778350944690176

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

lmfao

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

helicopters of the soviet union are just different

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

The Sea King was a genuinely remarkable helicopter once, but the last one was built in 1995. They've got too many hours on the airframes to start waxing poetically about defence of the homeland. Not least because the Ukrainian navy doesn't have a ship to its name, so I'm unsure what ASW operations in the Black Sea will get them.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

indigi posted:

I don't think they will. in fact some will get better paying jobs by continuing to obfuscate the issue

that seems unlikely, tenured prof is a pretty sweet gig

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Frosted Flake posted:

The Sea King was a genuinely remarkable helicopter once, but the last one was built in 1995. They've got too many hours on the airframes to start waxing poetically about defence of the homeland. Not least because the Ukrainian navy doesn't have a ship to its name, so I'm unsure what ASW operations in the Black Sea will get them.

Theyre big, couldnt they just use them as transport helicopters

seems like itd be a pain in the rear end to maintain like 3 old af helicopters that r different from all their other helicopters tho

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007



Dreylad posted:

if the holodomor acknowledgements really get going a whole bunch of historians are going to lose their jobs when people start digging into the actual academic historiography

now to take a big sip of water and look at how adrian zenz's career is going

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

OctaMurk posted:

Theyre big, couldnt they just use them as transport helicopters

seems like itd be a pain in the rear end to maintain like 3 old af helicopters that r different from all their other helicopters tho

Over twenty,

"On 19 May 1982 a Sea King, in the process of transporting SAS troops to HMS Intrepid from Hermes, crashed into the sea while attempting to land on Intrepid. Twenty-two men were killed and nine survived. Bird feathers were found in the debris, suggesting a bird strike, although investigations of the cause of the accident proved to be inconclusive."

razorscooter
Nov 5, 2008


to be fair, helicopters are a deliberate attempt to taunt god

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Ardennes posted:

Or that how does a bureaucracy exist with completely falsified records even for sundry information such as supply data.

Or the Soviets had two archives and somehow that works without no body knowing about it.

I mean that's how the China genocide claims also work. One day you can read in the official statistics that most net IUD insertions happen in Xinjiang so they tell the truth. Then, when the statistics say the birth rate is going up again it's all lies.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Frosted Flake posted:

The Sea King was a genuinely remarkable helicopter once, but the last one was built in 1995. They've got too many hours on the airframes to start waxing poetically about defence of the homeland. Not least because the Ukrainian navy doesn't have a ship to its name, so I'm unsure what ASW operations in the Black Sea will get them.

No one is talking about using them for ASW in the Black Sea. Their stated purpose is transport and search and rescue.

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