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tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

EMoney posted:

Price goes up, price goes down.

But the technology continues to evolve, iterate and get battle tested. Nothing healthier for an emerging asset class/fast moving tech space than serious wash outs of the weaker protocols/opportunists not in it for a sustainable long run. Only the strong will survive...all markets are about to get crushed but crypto just moves faster and doesn't get the benefit of government bailouts, which is healthy.

All real world assets will be tokenized, vast majority of governments will eventually encourage the use of digital wallets with CBDC's and both public and private blockchain protocols will help change how the world transacts, transfers and invests in digital value and digital property rights.

It will make more sense when things start to scale in the AR/VR hardware space (Apple is going in hard on AR next year), merging with AI at scale, and the UX for storing and transferring digital assets gets much easier...and gaming NFT's will be HUGE in onboarding the younger generations. Digital twins/AI agents will get paid with smart contracts in the tokens of whatever protocol/ecosystem they are functioning on...automated mobility vehicles will also get paid in microtransactions through blockchain tech/smart contracts. That's a world that probably won't be here in full bloom until 2028/2030 but its coming...just a matter of building the infrastructure.

The puzzle pieces are not all there yet so definitely understand any skepticism...plenty of kinks to still be worked out but the developers will continue to work on it and I am still confident the crypto space will experience yet another regularly scheduled strong bullrun around 2025.

the technology has not evolved and will not evolve because crypto 'developers' (lmao) are just script kiddies who glue a bunch of obscure code they found on the internet together and call it new.

all crypto is a scam that is built on 40 year old technology since replaced by much better tech that just works without having to scam anyone.

gently caress off

tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Nov 28, 2022

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kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

OneEightHundred posted:


But what if you're doing illegal poo poo and that system of rules, laws, and courts will now say oops hand over the money jackass? Well now you need a blockchain.
Sure, but that's not the basis for mass adoption, any more than a John Wick underworld that has professional assassins and their associated support systems having a parallel economy means that the gold coins they use is going to replace the USD. And amazingly enough that fictional conceit is more developed and fleshed out than any of the technobabble that passes for how crypto is gonna take over the world any day now.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Zil posted:

There was actually a big internal push for Bitcoin to be accepted in the RMAH during development, but the execs shot it down.

I only trade my crypto on the well-regarded collectible card game exchange site, Magic: the Gathering Online eXchange

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

God, this was such cursed idiocy it took me reading other people's replies before I realized this wasn't a Saddest Rhino/Lottery of Babylon-style copypaste hellpost.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





https://twitter.com/SimonSvatos1/status/1596908764397195265



Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/blockfis-bigcreditors-include-an-indenture-trustee-firm-ftx-and-the-sec-11669657915

So it looks like BlockFi's biggest creditor is a distressed debt/debt servicing firm of some nature called Ankura Trust. They hold $730 million of BlockFi debt. By comparison, BlockFi owes exactly $275 million to FTX. Third largest creditor is a client at $48.5 million and the SEC is fourth at $30 million.

Ankura could represent any number of investors, but with FTX being number two, I wonder if it's possible other exchanges and firms had money in BlockFi that's now tied up in these proceedings and was already bundled under Ankura. I can't find any trace of them being involved in Luna, Celsius or any other bankruptcy, though.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

EMoney posted:

Just like a company like Uber could have only happened with widespread mobile adoption and enterprise-grade GPS,

:lol::lmao:

Uber's :airquote: success :airquote: is because the service they provided was stupid loving illegal when they started out. As recently as 2016 LAPD was running stings against rideshare drivers

It was only allowed to thrive because the US licensed cab market is trash Uber is a dumpster fire of money that has rarely been profitable.

It has nothing to do with more people getting cell phones :dafuq:

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

Lazyfire posted:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/blockfis-bigcreditors-include-an-indenture-trustee-firm-ftx-and-the-sec-11669657915

So it looks like BlockFi's biggest creditor is a distressed debt/debt servicing firm of some nature called Ankura Trust. They hold $730 million of BlockFi debt. By comparison, BlockFi owes exactly $275 million to FTX. Third largest creditor is a client at $48.5 million and the SEC is fourth at $30 million.

Ankura could represent any number of investors, but with FTX being number two, I wonder if it's possible other exchanges and firms had money in BlockFi that's now tied up in these proceedings and was already bundled under Ankura. I can't find any trace of them being involved in Luna, Celsius or any other bankruptcy, though.

Kinda looks like... https://ankuratrust.com ? Sounds plausible, corporate trusts probably looked the other way when crypto was involved, hoping for an easy buck.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Devor posted:

I only trade my crypto on the well-regarded collectible card game exchange site, Magic: the Gathering Online eXchange

Regular reminder that it wasn't (Magic: The Gathering) Online Exchange, it was (Magic: The Gathering Online) Exchange, as in a place to trade your cards within MTGO, a game that already has a built in trade feature and finder.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

I remember this guy. Tried to sue someone for calling him a scammer, but backed down when the defendant received over 180k worth of donations for legal fees and was actually able to fight back. He apologized for the suit becoming public and not being a shameless SLAPP suit. Instead of silencing his critic, the story blew up and more people are looking into how shady his dealings are. Love to see it.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Kinda looks like... https://ankuratrust.com ? Sounds plausible, corporate trusts probably looked the other way when crypto was involved, hoping for an easy buck.

That's the company, not to be confused with Ankura Consulting, which is the parent company and has a whole crypto management/consulting business line.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



notwithoutmyanus posted:

:words:? Namaste, Seraph.

Nah, they're independently brainwormy. I know at this point we don't get many pro-crypto posts anymore (because LOL) but they do happen.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

CommieGIR posted:

The problem being that the Feds have shown multiple times they can and will go after Cryptocurrency if the need arises, blockchain does little to stop the threat of Federal or Government interference.
It certainly does, which is why there's been a huge explosion in hacks, ransomware, and other poo poo. Wallet addresses aren't linkable to any person or legal entity by themselves, which creates one mechanism for obfuscating the money trail, nevermind automated mixers like Tornado Cash which get to operate on the same network with the same currency as "legit" services.

The entire thing was designed to thwart regulation and prevent intervention. It has no other purpose. The smart thing to do would have been to say "okay if you can't fix your poo poo because you made it completely unregulatable by design then you don't get to access it with US dollars" and ban the exchanges, but the defense against that has been to try sucking in as much "legit" money into it as possible to maximize the collateral damage.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

OneEightHundred posted:

It certainly does, which is why there's been a huge explosion in hacks, ransomware, and other poo poo. Wallet addresses aren't linkable to any person or legal entity by themselves, which creates one mechanism for obfuscating the money trail, nevermind automated mixers like Tornado Cash which get to operate on the same network with the same currency as "legit" services.

The entire thing was designed to thwart regulation and prevent intervention. It has no other purpose. The smart thing to do would have been to say "okay if you can't fix your poo poo because you made it completely unregulatable by design then you don't get to access it with US dollars" and ban the exchanges, but the defense against that has been to try sucking in as much "legit" money into it as possible to maximize the collateral damage.

Yes pulling a Chinese and black list the exchanges would make sense.

Also sucking up investor money and doing what sbf did by making political donations and hiring lobbying firms would get in the way of that.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

OneEightHundred posted:

The entire thing was designed to thwart regulation and prevent intervention. It has no other purpose. The smart thing to do would have been to say "okay if you can't fix your poo poo because you made it completely unregulatable by design then you don't get to access it with US dollars" and ban the exchanges, but the defense against that has been to try sucking in as much "legit" money into it as possible to maximize the collateral damage.

Actually it was designed for no reason, and that's why it sucks at everything.

Rad Russian
Aug 15, 2007

Soviet Power Supreme!
This guy deposited $450K of his life savings into BlockFi 13 days ago after which they immediately ghosted him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blockfi/comments/ywfrg1/450k_life_savings_lost_as_private_client/

I'm assuming he won't get anything anymore. All these random exchange subreddits are full of these people falling over themselves to give everything they have to some Bahamas registered firm just because it's "crypto".

The funniest part of this is BlockFi just copy pasted the Chase Private Client name brand into BlockFi Private Client so you feel like you're a badass VIP millionaire while being scammed.

BigHandsVince
Mar 30, 2007
Mamma Mia, my hands are huge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASiPi1Bp4-U

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

Rad Russian posted:

This guy deposited $450K of his life savings into BlockFi 13 days ago after which they immediately ghosted him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blockfi/comments/ywfrg1/450k_life_savings_lost_as_private_client/

I'm assuming he won't get anything anymore. All these random exchange subreddits are full of these people falling over themselves to give everything they have to some Bahamas registered firm just because it's "crypto".

The funniest part of this is BlockFi just copy pasted the Chase Private Client name brand into BlockFi Private Client so you feel like you're a badass VIP millionaire while being scammed.

lol

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

As a driveby gawker to this thread in a trainwreck kind of way, thanks for linking that.


Basically, dudes a fat sack of poo poo. Like most crypto types.

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
https://twitter.com/GRDecter/status/1597282529765388288

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Who play Caroline?

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Ups_rail posted:

Yes pulling a Chinese and black list the exchanges would make sense.
I mean the cool thing to do would be call their bluff and be like "okay guys in 6 months, running a crypto exchange in the US is illegal unless the chain's validation protocol accepts banlists from the US government."

If there was enough legit stuff they'd piss and moan for a while before swallowing their pride and caving to avoid taking out the entire ecosystem, but in reality it'd just implode immediately.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Ups_rail posted:

Who play Caroline?

Anya Taylor-Joy.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

"boy" is doing alot of work here, unless he's just one of those people that have super fast aging genes and he's actually young.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

wolf street had a bunch of drugs and sex parties, havent most buttcoin party poo poo shown a bunch of hover hand betas and women looking bored as eff?

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

sbf basically ran a meth-fueled orgy circle of tech nerds, apparently, so there's that

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

PhazonLink posted:

wolf street had a bunch of drugs and sex parties, havent most buttcoin party poo poo shown a bunch of hover hand betas and women looking bored as eff?

It'll have kristen schaal in dumpy makeup as the mousy girl

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

PhazonLink posted:

"boy" is doing alot of work here, unless he's just one of those people that have super fast aging genes and he's actually young.

You're just witnessing the soul slowly leaving his body due to absence of purpose, outside of scamming people. Short bitboy.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Vampire Panties posted:

:lol::lmao:

Uber's :airquote: success :airquote: is because the service they provided was stupid loving illegal when they started out. As recently as 2016 LAPD was running stings against rideshare drivers

It was only allowed to thrive because the US licensed cab market is trash Uber is a dumpster fire of money that has rarely been profitable.

It has nothing to do with more people getting cell phones :dafuq:

I worked for Uber Corporate during the era where they were operating illegally in Canada and I had daily meetings with the heads of every department in Canada (I wasn't in Canada) about various things. Anyway one day I went into work and none of the canadians were online. Every one of them was unlisted in any internal communications tool and they were just like, ghosts. Turns out there was a button in one of the head offices there that essentially lit the entire place on fire and deleted all the employee and driver records, etc. And after asking around I was told that it got pressed because local police raided the office. And that was all I was allowed to know about it

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

deep dish peat moss posted:

I worked for Uber Corporate during the era where they were operating illegally in Canada and I had daily meetings with the heads of every department in Canada (I wasn't in Canada) about various things. Anyway one day I went into work and none of the canadians were online. Every one of them was unlisted in any internal communications tool and they were just like, ghosts. Turns out there was a button in one of the head offices there that essentially lit the entire place on fire and deleted all the employee and driver records, etc. And after asking around I was told that it got pressed because local police raided the office. And that was all I was allowed to know about it

:lol::laffo:

Still more legit than crypto, because at least the customers have something tangible (the trip) at the end of the transaction.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1597361764253011971

the other hand
Dec 14, 2003


43rd Heavy Artillery Brigade
"Ultima Ratio Liberalium"
e: nvm - way off topic

the other hand fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Nov 29, 2022

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Jimmy Buffett gonna get that money. Or you'll find yourself in the cheeseburger in paradise.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Alan Smithee posted:

movie exec script notes on Revenge of the Nerds 2: "idk about the NFL superbowl guy and supermodel wife losing their money to a polyamorous (had to look it up, don't buy it. Can't people just have good old fashioned affairs?)CEO and Legendary Lore player buys vacation home in the bahamas with non-existent funds? It's just too on the nose. And we need the nerds to be likable. Stealing a jock's gf (consentually now of course. I hate woke cancel culture as much as the next guy but you gotta go where the box office is) is the kind of Bing Bong Theory wish fulfillment we can get behind but nerds bullying the jock's out of their lunch money? It's quite frankly mean spirited and reeks of politics and socialism which won't play well in middle America

lol

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Vampire Panties posted:

:lol::laffo:

Still more legit than crypto, because at least the customers have something tangible (the trip) at the end of the transaction.

Imagine being in an Uber when the plug got pulled. Do they just kick you out or finish the ride?

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Lazyfire posted:

Imagine being in an Uber

Gross dude.....

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Durzel posted:

Bitcoin has only been around 13 years guys, it needs a few more years to mature.

Hmmm. For many adherents, that's just mature enough.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

Serjeant Buzfuz posted:

Gross dude.....

Hey, that one dude married his car remember? He would have loved being an uber driver.

https://youtu.be/06BFsQ_28Co

unknown
Nov 16, 2002
Ain't got no stinking title yet!


Lazyfire posted:

Imagine being in an Uber when the plug got pulled. Do they just kick you out or finish the ride?

Only staff/employees of Uber proper got ghosted by corporate - the drivers independent contractors still did their thing driving people around town for the Irish company.

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KrunkMcGrunk
Jul 2, 2007

Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Hey, that one dude married his car remember? He would have loved being an uber driver.

https://youtu.be/06BFsQ_28Co

dudes rock

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