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https://twitter.com/Dan_Arrows/status/1594654981419925504
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# ? Nov 22, 2022 22:11 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 06:57 |
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if musk leads to tech unionizing.
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# ? Nov 22, 2022 22:14 |
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can't remember if this was posted here but welp
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# ? Nov 22, 2022 22:30 |
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i thought everyone in germany was already in a union
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# ? Nov 22, 2022 23:12 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:i thought everyone in germany was already in a union union density ~20%, CBAs cover ~50%
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# ? Nov 22, 2022 23:15 |
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Shear Modulus posted:i figured that if it was anything it was going to be a supposal. kind of surprised that UC didn't even react to the suggestion though eh, from all indications the SRA unit is full of people basically waiting for any excuse to scab, and the ucs are fully aware of that. In Training posted:thanks for the clarification, im gonna stop trying to follow this from way away the strike line, don't want to be part of any misinfo dissemination etc. hope you all can hold strong through any of this internal nonsense while also fighting your bosses! lol well, your source was 100% right, and apparently literally inside the bargaining unit. i was using outdated info. the bargaining unit vote to strike COLA passed late last night (at like 9:30 pm). the GSI/TA union is extremely mad about this. the tldr update we'll see what happens. I'm convinced this goes through spring quarter, the unions of berkeley/la/sc/sd are all way too militant to vote this proposal up even if the UC somehow accepted it.
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# ? Nov 23, 2022 02:32 |
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Skwirl posted:https://twitter.com/UnionDrip/status/1595910813209927680?s=20&t=Zja2VIl9x5ZjxyYIwW0bEA cross-posted from another thread
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# ? Nov 25, 2022 03:06 |
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https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1597333786772918273
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:03 |
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What happens if the striking workers refuse to comply with government orders? Haymarket all over again?
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:29 |
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Nationalize the loving rail lines
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:30 |
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Lib and let die posted:What happens if the striking workers refuse to comply with government orders? Haymarket all over again? my guess is they call the national guard and attempt to force them to comply but something tells me were probably not getting wildcat strikes
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:35 |
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They'll just quit, op. They're already close to it anyway.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:37 |
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Yeah I don't foresee wildcat mass shutdowns. Theyll file a complaint with the NLRB and shitloads of people will work until the day they get their backpay and then quit, probably
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:45 |
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love seeing this stuff https://twitter.com/TinaDesireeBerg/status/1597346414694371328
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:48 |
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Jaxyon posted:Nationalize the loving rail lines
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 23:10 |
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this also happened today https://twitter.com/uaw2865/status/1597369212661428224
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 01:26 |
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lol gently caress that guy. Apparently the deal they want to force through grants the BU three whole unpaid days per year to go to the doctor, and the railroads “promise” not to penalize BUEs who are hospitalized or otherwise unable to perform their duties. Eat my entire rear end. This is an attack on labor, and should be treated as such. EDIT: here’s a non-paywalled article: https://apnews.com/article/business-congress-government-and-politics-44c88740ed57ba96a20c4fc6fffb230b MrYenko has issued a correction as of 05:34 on Nov 29, 2022 |
# ? Nov 29, 2022 04:57 |
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it's the usual lib policy of "i support unions in general, but this specific instance a union isn't appropriate," which somehow seems to apply to every instance my boss gave me the same line before the UC strike started lol
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 05:39 |
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I'd be terribly embarrassed if I scolded people to vote for this guy, but then I'm capable of self-reflection. I can't wait to see what the union slack at NGPVAN has to say in the coming days.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 12:30 |
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I really do not see what the Administration does besides showing off how out of touch they are, and how deep in the pockets of Capital they are. Neither are exactly surprises but...what the gently caress do they think is going to happen if they force this deal down the workers' throats? From what I understand the rail network's so understaffed it's at the point of falling apart already. The workers are gonna be pissed but I imagine a large chunk of the work force is going to stay just long enough to get whatever back pay from the back-dated raise the deal Congress forces through then bounce and everything starts grinding to a halt anyways only in a far messier and long-term way that's not as easy to fix.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 13:35 |
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I remember back when we were told Marty Walsh would be a good Secretary of Labor because he had been a union official before becoming mayor of Boston and appointing a former union leader Secretary of Labor proved that Biden would be a pro-union president, and now here we are.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 15:09 |
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blue no matter who
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 15:17 |
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vyelkin posted:I remember back when we were told Marty Walsh would be a good Secretary of Labor because he had been a union official before becoming mayor of Boston and appointing a former union leader Secretary of Labor proved that Biden would be a pro-union president, and now here we are. Marty Walsh has always sucked rear end
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 16:28 |
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https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1597381132064288768
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 18:20 |
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lol
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 18:27 |
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lol
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 18:36 |
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Any other unions got anything to say about this?
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:14 |
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Lol
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:16 |
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SorePotato posted:Any other unions got anything to say about this? I've brought it up but other than some grumbling from individual members CWA leadership doesn't seem to have said much. Our org is pretty instrumental to the Democrat campaign apparatus and I'm going to probably end up in trouble if we just kind of collectively do a "what're we gonna do, vote for Republicans instead?" because there isn't a ton of militancy in my local and I'm going to start getting Very Agitated if we just let this poo poo slide on
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:18 |
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wouldn't being a part of the election machine actually give you leverage since threatening to take your ball and go home, or even running your own dudes, be a credible threat
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:20 |
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Agean90 posted:wouldn't being a part of the election machine actually give you leverage since threatening to take your ball and go home, or even running your own dudes, be a credible threat Yup. I advanced this position at length while we were in bargaining. Our ratification vote was just before the most recent midterm election and one of the major pressure points for a yes vote was that an impasse would create bad press for progressive democrats and hurt their chances in the election. I argued that if the company WAS truly invested in advancing democrat victories then our most powerful leverage point was the upcoming election; a lot of my colleagues still believe in lesser evilism and VBNMW-thought so my advocation for militancy was largely ignored or 'd away.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:25 |
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I did go on a bit of a tear this morning though and emphatically state that I will not EVER vote yes again on a contract that isn't proposed under open bargaining rather than closed bargaining. Based on my cursory reading of the minutes a lot of the more militant demands were not represented at the table in any meaningful capacity.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:28 |
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https://twitter.com/UAW5810/status/1597641375331196928
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:46 |
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i think a general trend is that even a lot of the well meaning senior union people are useless msnbc watching libs while the activists among the younger workers, if there are any younger workers, are bernie-leaning or better
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:49 |
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Shear Modulus posted:i think a general trend is that even a lot of the well meaning senior union people are useless msnbc watching libs while the activists among the younger workers, if there are any younger workers, are bernie-leaning or better yeah, this absolutely bears out. we use a shared google account for some stuff and if I pop onto youtube with that account the feed is exactly what you'd expect.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 19:52 |
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get outta here Liz! https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1597735612773126145
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:04 |
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kingcobweb posted:get outta here Liz! We got this same messaging from our union leadership during our vote, and I'm starting to think I got got. e: yeah, really steamed I got tricked into voting for a no-strike no-lockout contract Lib and let die has issued a correction as of 19:10 on Nov 30, 2022 |
# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:06 |
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More like Liz Loser.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:10 |
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In Training posted:More like Liz Loser.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:10 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 06:57 |
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no strike/no lockout stuff is pretty common; that's not what's causing so many problems for the railroad unions
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 19:40 |