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Tar doesn’t really work because Karajan joined the Nazi Party twice and nobody cared. He became one of the world’s best known conductors and his recordings are still used all the time. If you’ve heard the 1812 Overture, it was probably from Karajan Conducts Tchaikovsky.
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Nov 30, 2022 13:14
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what do you do with someone with no musical talent? give them two sticks and let them drum. what do you do if they're no good at that? take away one and let them conduct
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Nov 30, 2022 14:20
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Watching Gangs of London before it leaves Prime, and there's a gulf between the self-serious "gritty" tone of the show versus the unremitting schlock that it actually is.
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Nov 30, 2022 14:33
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Tar wasn't about conducting at all. That was all effectively technobabble designed to communicate what a detached, pretentious poo poo Linda was. She might as well have been the world's foremost thumb-twiddler instead of a white lady metronome
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Nov 30, 2022 14:37
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Mameluke posted:Tar wasn't about conducting at all. That was all effectively technobabble designed to communicate what a detached, pretentious poo poo Linda was. She might as well have been the world's foremost thumb-twiddler instead of a white lady metronome ummmmm she has an EGOT? but sure, keep minimizing women's accomplishments
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Nov 30, 2022 14:39
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Segue posted:I don't agree with all of Brody's arguments but there's a regressive edge to Tár I think that goes beyond the film following her perspective. It presents a lot of conflicts in the plot as the chaotic world intruding on her controlled life. It relies on omission to show her as an unreliable narrator, but it still presents an actual outside world that is in conflict with her and not just from her point of view. there are some regressive elements, and i don't think it quite sticks the landing (it could/should have ended with her tackling the other composer, or watching her leonard bernstein tapes at her childhood home, or after meeting with the crisis PR team........ there were alot of possible endings). it is trying to play with cancel culture yes, but i think it actually pulls it off decently well, which i haven't seen another movie or show do really. the chaos intruding on her controlled life i thought fit well with her ~vocation~ as a conductor —— she tries to play and control everyone in her life like they're an instrument in her orchestra, but that only works in the symphony. and the "cancelation"/fall from grace STARTS with this investigation/lawsuit into her essentially bullying a former student/lover into committing suicide after sabotaging her career! and likely many other stories of grooming that we don't quite see but are implied (her assistant, her wife, the student who killed herself, her attempt with the cellist). i think the movie treats the viewer like a grown up who can handle some ambiguity and thorny topics, and it's up to the viewer to decide if she got what she deserved. i disagree it has a misunderstanding about how power is welded —— lydia is discarded (for now), the institutions endure.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:there are some regressive elements, and i don't think it quite sticks the landing (it could/should have ended with her tackling the other composer, or watching her leonard bernstein tapes at her childhood home, or after meeting with the crisis PR team........ there were alot of possible endings). it is trying to play with cancel culture yes, but i think it actually pulls it off decently well, which i haven't seen another movie or show do really. the chaos intruding on her controlled life i thought fit well with her ~vocation~ as a conductor —— she tries to play and control everyone in her life like they're an instrument in her orchestra, but that only works in the symphony. and the "cancelation"/fall from grace STARTS with this investigation/lawsuit into her essentially bullying a former student/lover into committing suicide after sabotaging her career! and likely many other stories of grooming that we don't quite see but are implied (her assistant, her wife, the student who killed herself, her attempt with the cellist). i think the movie treats the viewer like a grown up who can handle some ambiguity and thorny topics, and it's up to the viewer to decide if she got what she deserved. i disagree it has a misunderstanding about how power is welded —— lydia is discarded (for now), the institutions endure. That's a fair takeaway, and I think a very valid argument for a more generous reading. I thought the film was really well-made (the character study is fascinating), just for me Lydia's tragic arc hinging on her actually being accountable in the world of classical music rang hollow. I wish it had somehow used a different method than protests and Twitter to help undo her, and been more ambiguous about cancel culture as it is in so much else.
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Segue posted:That's a fair takeaway, and I think a very valid argument for a more generous reading. I thought the film was really well-made (the character study is fascinating), just for me Lydia's tragic arc hinging on her actually being accountable in the world of classical music rang hollow. I wish it had somehow used a different method than protests and Twitter to help undo her, and been more ambiguous about cancel culture as it is in so much else. yeah yours is a fair reading too, and the twitter stuff and protest was a bit strange but i think it could be interpreted (generously) as being the only real intrusion from the public on her life. she’s otherwise so cloistered and controlled that she barely sniffs the hoi polloi unless they knock on her door asking for help getting her elderly mom in a wheel chair one of the funniest scenes of the year tho (even tho it’s psychotic) is her threatening the kid who’s bullying her kid
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Tankbuster posted:they should have had her conduct the skyrim soundtrack for maximum lols. isn't the guy who composed that also accused of being a sexual abuser or is that the joke
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Dreylad posted:isn't the guy who composed that also accused of being a sexual abuser or is that the joke yes, really good composer. He did a cumtown tier attempt to get top.
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drat lol are there really people out there who were traumatized by seeing will smith slap chris rock that's wild
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Jazerus posted:drat lol are there really people out there who were traumatized by seeing will smith slap chris rock anyone that this is true of did not have enough bad things happen to them in their life
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Segue posted:That's a fair takeaway, and I think a very valid argument for a more generous reading. I thought the film was really well-made (the character study is fascinating), just for me Lydia's tragic arc hinging on her actually being accountable in the world of classical music rang hollow. I wish it had somehow used a different method than protests and Twitter to help undo her, and been more ambiguous about cancel culture as it is in so much else. it really isn't the twitter stuff that undoes her though - she alienates one by one everyone who might support her or stand by her, up to and including the orchestra and her wife.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Watching Gangs of London before it leaves Prime, and there's a gulf between the self-serious "gritty" tone of the show versus the unremitting schlock that it actually is. I started season 2 last night and posted this somewhere else quote:started Gangs of London season 2. it's good so far but in ep 2 they have this big long musical montage of everyone being sad and I’m like. I don't give a gently caress about these people being sad. they're all awful people, but I don't want to watch them each individually being weepy in cinematic soft focus with beautiful melancholic music playing underneath it. that's boring. make with the 9 minute long brutal fight scenes or people being domed to send a message
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i was a little amusedly stunned when i learned the v/o for the monster hunter game at the end of Tar was none other than alec baldwin —— i wonder if it was pre or post rust
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indigi posted:I started season 2 last night and posted this somewhere else Prime only has Season 1 and yeah the action choreography is solid but it starts at ridiculous Hot Fuzz levels and only gets more ridiculous and more videogamey from there. Juxtaposing the over-the-top action/violence with all the really flat characters/dialog really makes it apparent that Gareth Edwards should be writing/directing action-comedies and not...whatever this is. Other than the undercover cop who isn't even that likeable everyone is just a psychopath and yeah none of the attempts to humanize them work at all.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Prime only has Season 1 and yeah the action choreography is solid but it starts at ridiculous Hot Fuzz levels and only gets more ridiculous and more videogamey from there. Juxtaposing the over-the-top action/violence with all the really flat characters/dialog really makes it apparent that Gareth Edwards should be writing/directing action-comedies and not...whatever this is. Other than the undercover cop who isn't even that likeable everyone is just a psychopath and yeah none of the attempts to humanize them work at all. I feel that's a case of the director thinking they need all that poo poo to be A Serious Story so they can get it out of the way and eventually justify more shootybang action.
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the only fully likable character is the black detective's dad. I do enjoy the elder Dumani guy as a character, he's putting on an A/A- acting clinic with C+ material
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lol oh god i need to forget this before season 2 starts or else he won't be in any way endearing
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josh04 posted:it really isn't the twitter stuff that undoes her though - she alienates one by one everyone who might support her or stand by her, up to and including the orchestra and her wife. I found it hilarious how much she sabotaged her friendship with Mark Strong (and I also found his stringy wig hilarious). Like he will be more than pleased to keep working with you once this #metoo poo poo blows over!
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Man remember like 2010-12 when Mark Strong was the bad guy in like half of all movies? I forgot he existed.
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indigi posted:the only fully likable character is the black detective's dad. I do enjoy the elder Dumani guy as a character, he's putting on an A/A- acting clinic with C+ material That actor elevates anything he's in. Taboo is one of my favorite guilty pleasures because it's Tom Hardy just brazenly doing a vanity project, and Msamati is great in that as well. MeatwadIsGod has issued a correction as of 19:54 on Nov 30, 2022 |
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MeatwadIsGod posted:That actor elevates anything he's in. Taboo is one of my favorite guilty pleasures because it's Tom Hardy just braznely doing a vanity project, and Msamati is great in that as well. based on the summary Taboo looks fun maybe I'll give it a shot
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Have any of you guys watched Top Boy? I started the first "Summerhouse" season on Netflix and it's entertaining so far, but I'd rather not invest too much time into it if it's just going to jump the shark after the first season. I heard the more recent ones Drake got involved in get really silly so I took a pass on that.
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i already hate drake enough, not sure what i'd do if i accidentally saw him trying to act
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Gangs of London is p good but yeah I didn't really connect that much to the story. I don't blame Evans, The Raid 2 was the right blend tonally of an over the top world and a serious crime story.
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Some Guy TT posted:Will Smith revisited his infamous Oscar night for the first time in his first major TV interview since slapping Chris Rock onstage last March. i remember that moment feeling like a fever dream cause i haven't thought about the oscars in forever. like oh wow they're still around and celebs are hitting each other on stage now anyways i get my yearly movie worship and watch lists from this guy's edits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFaUW008vas https://www.videocountdowns.com/ Durf has issued a correction as of 06:31 on Dec 1, 2022 |
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MeatwadIsGod posted:That actor elevates anything he's in. Taboo is one of my favorite guilty pleasures because it's Tom Hardy just brazenly doing a vanity project, and Msamati is great in that as well. i liked how one review summed it up as 'Hardy stomping around nightmare 18th century London like he was recovering from Leg Day' Jonathan Pryce is also great as always and the chemist was hilarious
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It's wild that Will Smith suffered more consequences for slapping Chris Rock than Woddy Harrelson or Roman Polanski did for being rapists
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You mean Woody Allen right? Tell me you mean Woody Allen!!!
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Woddy Harrelson, no..
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i knew he'd had some trouble with the law but nothing like that.
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he sunk a boatful of people in a storm
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the Cocaine Bear trailer is here and it features White Lines as one would expect it to. https://twitter.com/cocainebear/status/1598013839202693120?s=20&t=hnuQVRHGfOzRpojtBO-RqA
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I caught The Menu on a random Thanksgiving movie trip, and it's Fairly Socialist. Not as socialist as some of the characters in it seem to think, but Fairly Socialist. Also: apparently Ralph Fiennes pronounces his first name as "Rafe", so I've changed my mind about him being one of my favorite actors and now I hate his loving guts.
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:I caught The Menu on a random Thanksgiving movie trip, and it's Fairly Socialist. Not as socialist as some of the characters in it seem to think, but Fairly Socialist. Also: apparently Ralph Fiennes pronounces his first name as "Rafe", so I've changed my mind about him being one of my favorite actors and now I hate his loving guts. so it’s like… Refines? 
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:I caught The Menu on a random Thanksgiving movie trip, and it's Fairly Socialist. Not as socialist as some of the characters in it seem to think, but Fairly Socialist. Also: apparently Ralph Fiennes pronounces his first name as "Rafe", so I've changed my mind about him being one of my favorite actors and now I hate his loving guts. I definitely didn't expect the writers to have to guts to actually go the distance with the ending, but then they did and it was even better than expected. genuinely one of the funnest movies I've seen this year. everyone here should see it. it actually inspired me to make chicken al pastor, so guess I'll be doing that this weekend.
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