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Does the SD ship in a box that discloses what's inside? I live in an... inexpensive... apartment complex, so if it's clear that it's Expensive Electronics I'll probably ship it to my mom's house.
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Annath posted:Does the SD ship in a box that discloses what's inside? Unless Valve has changed something recently, yes, it does, somewhat. If you know what the Steam Deck is, you might figure out what it is from the box, but people who don't probably wont.  Image stolen from a random Redit post Veotax fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Nov 30, 2022 |
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Annath posted:Does the SD ship in a box that discloses what's inside? The box was not subtle at all when I got mine under two months ago. It doesn't have a picture on it, but it's covered in tech/battery warnings.
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njsykora posted:It’s also not competition, it’s more the 3DO structure of multiple manufacturers making devices for the same ecosystem. Only now it’s more other companies making devices to accommodate people with Deck issues. So if you want a smaller deck, a higher res screen deck or more powerful deck those are all available with potentially the same software experience. They’re just not made by Valve and won’t be the dominant device in the space. My biggest issue with other devices, outside of price, is that no matter what you put SteamOS on, it won't be as feature rich and perfectly tuned for the hardware that Valve themselves puts out. Hell, there isn't another device like this that even has trackpads and that's a must for me. However, it is cool that there's just a variety of devices that suit a ton of people's needs but being that they'll all be double or triple the price of the Deck it almost doesn't even matter. Annath posted:Does the SD ship in a box that discloses what's inside? No, it has a companion cube on it and the shipper will say "VALVE" but unless a thief is in the know looking specifically for a Steam Deck nothing says "Hot electronic inside!" edit: Well, I forgot about the battery stickers, so that might get looks. Nevermind me.
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Lockback posted:Thats called PC Gaming. It sure is, and so History Comes Inside! posted:If it gets fragmented like PCs already are it would lose most of what makes it really cool.
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bloodychill posted:Does anyone have any recommendations for good city builders/sims that work well on the Deck? After playing with the Deck for a few months, I've found that generally stuff that isn't reliant at all on having a mouse cursor works best so the city builder I've enjoyed the most is the relatively simple Kingdoms and Castles. Honestly I do not know how people are playing Rimworld on this thing. I played a bunch of mini motorways on switch. Simpler stuff like that is prolly your best bet for that kind of game unless you're willing to go super deep into custom contol layouts or w/e.
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Dorfromantik is perfect on the deck
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I think you're best off just getting used to mousing, then everything is perfect on the deck. Anno 1800? Great on the deck.
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I used to think rimworld on deck was awkward compared to the console version but once I reduced the sensitivity of the touch pad and got used to combining it with the trigger, I actually prefer it. Also the Deck is aaaallmost perfect but if you are getting near sighted like me (  ) there’s just no sweet spot between holding it close enough to see well or at a distance that makes your neck and arms ache. I wish the screen were a little bit bigger TBCH.
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homeless snail posted:I think you're best off just getting used to mousing, then everything is perfect on the deck. Anno 1800? Great on the deck. Yep Cities Skylines on a Steam Controller was great Doctor Zero posted:Also the Deck is aaaallmost perfect but if you are getting near sighted like me ( 
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jokes posted:If there was a more intuitive file storage system I would feel a lot more confident about saying that linux is a better gaming experience than windows. i always feel a little confused about the 'home' or 'var' storage and all those things, because ive been trained to recognize C:/ paths.
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I know most people don't have any reason to give it a serious try usually but I've been a Windows user since I've first started using computers until maybe 3 years ago when I decided to give Linux a go and I've gotten used to it to the same degree I've been used to Windows before. It's literally a habit like any other  Luckily I've found many things easier and I now prefer it so unless a game doesn't run on Linux I usually don't even boot to Windows anymore.
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Doctor Zero posted:Also the Deck is aaaallmost perfect but if you are getting near sighted like me ( Maybe the Nreal Airs would help in this regard.
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Mescal posted:yeah, i don't use the thing docked like at all because it's not worth the effort pairing a controller if i'm not sure it'll work. i want to use it for couch co-op, but i guess pairing two controllers just doesn't work at all and i'm baffled because i consider that basic funtionality. apparently so few people want to play local multiplayer that almost no one is even complaining about it online when you search for it.
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sigher posted:Maybe the Nreal Airs would help in this regard. Whoa! I had no idea those were A Thing!
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:and they'll also be way more expensive because they can't sell them at a loss like valve can. Do we know what the BOM cost is for them? Selling at a material loss doesn’t sound very Valve to me for some reason.
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I don't know if that's true, but consoles make it up on the games and meta quest 2 or whatever the same, I don't see why not for the deck. Even though the quest 2 price went up you could in theory cost Facebook money by using it strictly for pcvr
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Subjunctive posted:Do we know what the BOM cost is for them? Selling at a material loss doesn’t sound very Valve to me for some reason. the accepted reddit wisdom last time I was it was that the 64 gig model was more or less at cost and the others were profitable but lol gamers
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Quaint Quail Quilt posted:I don't know if that's true, but consoles make it up on the games and meta quest 2 or whatever the same, I don't see why not for the deck. Yeah Valve own the primary storefront on the Deck and take a cut of everything you buy on there. The Quest 2 didn't make money on software because no-one bought games on there, they just used it to play VRChat, Rec Room and Echo VR all of which are free to play games if they weren't just connecting it to a PC and playing stuff bought on Steam.
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Quaint Quail Quilt posted:I don't know if that's true, but consoles make it up on the games and meta quest 2 or whatever the same, I don't see why not for the deck. Quest 2 wasn't sold at a loss at launch, but I don't know if it started to get that way with increases in supplier pricing during its lifetime. 90s Cringe Rock posted:the accepted reddit wisdom last time I was it was that the 64 gig model was more or less at cost and the others were profitable but lol gamers Gabe described the pricing as "painful", but that could mean any number of things. I expect that their margins are very tight, but I would be surprised they were actually selling for less than manufacturing+shipping cost.
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Subjunctive posted:Quest 2 wasn't sold at a loss at launch, but I don't know if it started to get that way with increases in supplier pricing during its lifetime. The Quest 2 was 100% sold at a loss, they cut down the parts as much as possible from the Quest 1 (simpler headband, cheaper plastic, LED screen instead of OLED) but still were losing money per headset. Nintendo is basically the only console manufacturer who doesn't sell hardware at a loss.
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I'm not sure at all if this will ever actually happen but I'd like to think devs and publishers will now be always seriously thinking about how best to optimise their settings for the Deck going forward, considering how successful it's been. I'd love to be able to play future titles on my main computer and then pick up again on Deck without feeling significant drawback. I mean, I'm really nitpicking as most of the games I play run extremely well on Deck.
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njsykora posted:The Quest 2 was 100% sold at a loss Do you have a source for that? My contacts at Oculus at the time said that it was at cost like the Quest and Rift before it. (Treating the R&D to develop it as costing zero, of course.)
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I'm not happy with rocket league performance on docked deck, but then again anything but my PC doesn't make me happy either. I need minimal input lag. I suppose it could be my TV, I'll have to try docking my deck on my new PC monitor. Don't get me wrong it runs fine, but I feel a delay on jumps and flips that I don't on my PC and because of what I'm used to it really messes with me.
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Also maybe jump into the Preview build of SteamOS and you can turn Screen Tearing off (it's on by default on Deck) which will lower the input delay.
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sigher posted:Also maybe jump into the Preview build of SteamOS and you can turn Screen Tearing off (it's on by default on Deck) which will lower the input delay. I think it's turning on "Allow Screen Tearing."
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Seems like halfway decent odds as these things go with as long as the show is. quote:In celebration of The Game Awards, Steam Deck now being in stock, and gaming in general, we will be giving away one one 512GB Steam Deck every minute during the live airing of The Game Awards. Enter below for your chance to win! US, EU, UK, Canada only. Full details/registration/cute animated sticker: https://store.steampowered.com/sale/thegameawardssteamdeckdrop2022
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History Comes Inside! posted:Then it’s not really a deck anymore, it’s some other new thing that’ll run games differently and I immediately check out because the question of “does it work on steam deck” now doesn’t have a straightforward answer it becomes ‘maybe’. If it runs SteamOS and has an AMD SoC/APU then compatibility should be nearly identical. It'll get more weird once (if?) Intel graphics starts seeing serious use, Nvidia isn't likely to happen for (PC) handhelds. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Dec 1, 2022 |
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Yeesh Nintendo sucks at making consoles and yet their first party games are amazing I couldn’t find it anywhere in the thread but im sure it’s in there somewhere any steam deck owners have experience with Yuzu? Thinking of picking a deck up to avoid the lovely Nintendo hardware and want to know if emulation on the Steam Deck does an admirable job
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Mr Phillby posted:I don't think there are any proper fully featured city builders that work well on a gamepad. I’ll take a look. I don’t mind playing relatively simple city builders if they’re fun. Games like Kingdoms and Castles and Sim City 2000 are still totally fun if not as complex as modern fully featured sims.
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Titan Quest is eating all my old emulator time lol. Only downside is that the controller ui only allows for eight options on the dpad and two on active buttons, but probably not an issue for my pet build
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PuertoRicanBarber posted:Yeesh Nintendo sucks at making consoles and yet their first party games are amazing If you want to do it the LEGAL way, you need to buy a Switch and use your own console's code to make it work. Aside from that, I've heard it runs pretty well. I intend to try it when mine arrives although I don't really have a need to.
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PuertoRicanBarber posted:Yeesh Nintendo sucks at making consoles and yet their first party games are amazing Buy a switch
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PuertoRicanBarber posted:Yeesh Nintendo sucks at making consoles and yet their first party games are amazing Quantum of Phallus posted:Buy a switch https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3983835
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PuertoRicanBarber posted:Yeesh Nintendo sucks at making consoles and yet their first party games are amazing i wouldn't pick it up with the intention to use it to play emulated switch games, or at least not as the primary reason to get it. some of the games run pretty well with a bit of tinkering, some of them run like poo poo (as in, worse than the switch version lol), some of them don't work at all. it's a bit of a crapshoot. though i'd guess most of the really popular games have lots of guides and support for making them run.
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That said, Wii U games generally run well and many of the best switch games are Wii U ports (BoTW, Mario Kart 8, and Bayonetta 2)
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